Was Wilson really that bad. He made some incredible saves but like everyone of our keepers was prone to the odd mistake. Golden glove winner and I don't buy it was all down to the defence.
Collins is a liability and was part of the Barnsley side along with Kitchen who got relegated.
Dovin has done nothing wrong really but looks like a kid who is playing his first game and lacking experience.
I personally hope Frank puts Wilson back in and he sticks with him because hes the best we have at the moment
Wilson would be fine as number 2 until the summer but we really need to stick with Dovin as number 1.Franks interview the other day was quite telling they way he was saying Ben is a character and voice etc. Expect he’s in when fit.
Wilson had a battling defence that shielded him that season. Currently we don’t have that. But if I had to pick out of wilson and Collins then it’s a no brainer.
This may be true though. Carr restored him to the first 11 after all.Where does this weird Carr diatribe come from ?
It's honestly insane
I saw the press conference and was suprised how much he was praising Ben. I get he is a big personality and helpful person from a morale perspective, however, based on his proven goalkeeping inability, is not the answer.Wilson is obviously Fwanks first choice, he's been bigging him up because of his 'character'. Collins was just a stop gap until Wilson was fit again.
Maybe it's because the thought of Big Ben, makes him feel all warm and nostalgic for his boyhood home of London.I saw the press conference and was suprised how much he was praising Ben. I get he is a big personality and helpful person from a morale perspective, however, based on his proven goalkeeping inability, is not the answer.
The trouble is Lampard doesn't really know the ability of the players until he tries them out.I saw the press conference and was suprised how much he was praising Ben. I get he is a big personality and helpful person from a morale perspective, however, based on his proven goalkeeping inability, is not the answer.
Wasn’t it shown on here that Wilson statistically faced far less shots that season, proving that it was actually largely down to the defence?
There is certainly an argument to be had for him organising the defence though.
Now do Dasilva!No that is not true.
Wilson faced an average of 3.28 shots on target per game that season. This season we average 3.43 so it's a negligible difference - 7 shots over a whole season.
The average post shot expected goal value of Wilson's shots on target faced was 0.29 and for Collins this year it's 0.32 so again, negligible.
Wilson had averaged 0.11 post shot expected goals saved per game, which put him 6th in the division for that season. The notion that he had a rubbish season and was protected by a good defence is nonsense and used by some because for some reason they are unable to admit or accept that Wilson had a good season (regardless of how bad we had before or since.)
Collins is currently on -0.66 post shot goals per game and that doesn't even include yesterday, so it's going to get a lot worse. That of course puts him dead last by a country mile.
Over a season that +0.11 to -0.66 difference is the equivalent of 35 goals
Now do Dasilva!
How does he compare statistically to other LBs in the division?Dasilva isn't a goalkeeper silly!
How does he compare statistically to other LBs in the division?
No that is not true.
Wilson faced an average of 3.28 shots on target per game that season. This season we average 3.43 so it's a negligible difference - 7 shots over a whole season.
The average post shot expected goal value of Wilson's shots on target faced was 0.29 and for Collins this year it's 0.32 so again, negligible.
Wilson had averaged 0.11 post shot expected goals saved per game, which put him 6th in the division for that season. The notion that he had a rubbish season and was protected by a good defence is nonsense and used by some because for some reason they are unable to admit or accept that Wilson had a good season (regardless of how bad we had before or since.)
Collins is currently on -0.66 post shot goals per game and that doesn't even include yesterday, so it's going to get a lot worse. That of course puts him dead last by a country mile.
Over a season that +0.11 to -0.66 difference is the equivalent of 35 goals
That Wrexham game finished his career here (and Panzo's).And still he’s a better player than Wilson and Collins.
That's why he lost his place; he came for balls against Sunderland, Millwall, etc., got nowhere near and cost us goals. He seemed to lose his ability to judge when to come and when to stay.at least he could come out and catch the feckin ball unlike our prize chimp who's in goal atm,
Seen a few on Twitter say we should not have let go of Moore. Jesus fucking Christ…short memories. Was terrible start of play off season and equally terrible when he came back v Wrexham.
He is however, still better than Collins.
He was well protected, but was also pretty much faultless for the latter part of that season.Wasn’t it shown on here that Wilson statistically faced far less shots that season, proving that it was actually largely down to the defence?
He was well protected, but was also pretty much faultless for the latter part of that season.
You don't keep all those clean sheets if you're not doing something right.
To be fair, Moore lost it totally for whatever reason, the game at Hull where he basically threw them the game. He had to be dropped, and I guess Wilson in possession did well enough to retain the jersey. Think Moore had gone.I can’t really remember Moore that well for us, but remember he seemed confident and came for crosses more than anyone else we’ve had in recent years.
Pretty sure he (Moore) had made a couple of errors and then was out of the team? When you think about Collins so far, it’s pretty mad that he’s got another chance really.There’s no doubt
His Defensive errors though usually result in a goal for the opposition.Surprisingly well actually having just looked. Defensively miles ahead of Bidwell
His Defensive errors though usually result in a goal for the opposition.
Plus Sunderland away where he literally threw it in the net and Milwall away when we were 2-0 up and he let them back just before half time and we lost 3-2That Wrexham game finished his career here (and Panzo's).
It was very strange, as he was brilliant the season before, then it went.
He was also woeful getting beat at the far post from our right hand side. The number of goals we let in from a shot across the goal to the far post and Moore never got to one of them was terrible. It was like he didnt know where his goal posts wereThat's why he lost his place; he came for balls against Sunderland, Millwall, etc., got nowhere near and cost us goals. He seemed to lose his ability to judge when to come and when to stay.
No that is not true.
Wilson faced an average of 3.28 shots on target per game that season. This season we average 3.43 so it's a negligible difference - 7 shots over a whole season.
The average post shot expected goal value of Wilson's shots on target faced was 0.29 and for Collins this year it's 0.32 so again, negligible.
Wilson had averaged 0.11 post shot expected goals saved per game, which put him 6th in the division for that season. The notion that he had a rubbish season and was protected by a good defence is nonsense and used by some because for some reason they are unable to admit or accept that Wilson had a good season (regardless of how bad we had before or since.)
Collins is currently on -0.66 post shot goals per game and that doesn't even include yesterday, so it's going to get a lot worse. That of course puts him dead last by a country mile.
Over a season that +0.11 to -0.66 difference is the equivalent of 35 goals
Like you say, Collins is by far statistically the worst goalkeeper in the league. Why continue to play the worst goalkeeper in the league? All I have is questions right now, the situation is baffling. I can only assume Lampard is trying to tank the club.
Collins is currently averaging -0.79 PSxG +/- per 90.
What that means in simple terms is for every 90 minutes he plays, he's letting in 0.79 more goals than you would expect an average keeper to.
He is currently bottom of this statistic in the league for keepers playing regularly by a huge margin - the next worst is Angus Gunn at -0.34.
Continuing to play him is actively sabotaging our chances of winning football matches.
Hmmm now who does that remind me of?That's why he lost his place; he came for balls against Sunderland, Millwall, etc., got nowhere near and cost us goals. He seemed to lose his ability to judge when to come and when to stay.
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