We had VAR when we lost 2-1 to Southampton in the FA Cup a few years back.
Wolves FA cup Quarter Final (2 Viewers)
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oscillatewildly
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Happy_Martian
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According to the members here, they're like chalk and cheese.
Personally, both have their faults. But one gets all the plaudits and the other gets all the abuse.
oscillatewildly
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One is clearly better than the other - that's why.
Alkhen
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Wilson was undeniably solid last season but he seemed to have a few jitters this early in the season and made a few costly errors. No reason he should be written off.
I'm yet to see Collins make a clear error leading to a goal. All the stats have him as a good keeper and I rate him personally. I just think his style freaks some people out a bit. Loves a punch or push out which I think worries some, even though it's now a pretty standard technique.
There is a lot of talk about upgrading keepers every window. All good clubs should be constantly looking to improve but to this point nobody has suggested anyone sensible who would do better. All GKs at this level have flaws. Constantly proven by keepers that have been lauded like the Rotherham one (fine keeper) or the Sunderland one having mares against us. It's just the nature of the championship.
We should be pretty pleased that we have two (possibly 3) Champ quality keepers.
I'm yet to see Collins make a clear error leading to a goal. All the stats have him as a good keeper and I rate him personally. I just think his style freaks some people out a bit. Loves a punch or push out which I think worries some, even though it's now a pretty standard technique.
There is a lot of talk about upgrading keepers every window. All good clubs should be constantly looking to improve but to this point nobody has suggested anyone sensible who would do better. All GKs at this level have flaws. Constantly proven by keepers that have been lauded like the Rotherham one (fine keeper) or the Sunderland one having mares against us. It's just the nature of the championship.
We should be pretty pleased that we have two (possibly 3) Champ quality keepers.
And the definition of a few is a relatively small number normally 2 or 3.
oscillatewildly
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Agreed.
As good as Torp can be technically he was in the wrong defensive position a lot against Watford. Another body would minimise the space he needs to cover and allow him to push forward also.
2 in midfield has only worked with Hamer as he basically covered 2 positions.
I would also leave Wright/Simms up front. They need to continue to develop their partnership.
Team would be:
Wilson
MvE Thomas Lati Kitching Bidwell
Eccles Sheaf Torp
Simms Wright
Happy_Martian
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And this is the issue I have with members on this forum. Context is very important.
At the start of the season, noone came out of any games with praise. But the outfielders have been given a second chance by the fans and while some still slag individual players off, most have seen the players getting better as they work with each other. Wilson was dropped after Preston (A) and whenever he's been reintroduced into the side, it's been with a makeshift defence for cup games. How does that instill confidence in any player ? When he's come in to cover Collins, he's kept clean sheets and fans have immediately jumped to excuses ("He had nothing to do" etc). It's apparent Wilson can do nothing right, according to some fans.
Whereas Collins has played with an established group, some of which he played with last season as well. But that still hasn't stopped us conceding goals. We've had barely a handful of clean sheets since Christmas yet those facts are ignored by fans.
Wilson would have been panned for the Watford goal but where's the same reaction for Collins ?
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skybluelee
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And Southampton away in 22
Terry_dactyl
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I hear the floors really sticky and there’s loads of kids running about!
I’ve got my tickets for HMHB. Cannot wait.
baldy
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Talk about quibbling
Ccfcisparks
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Collins
MVE Thomas Kitching Bidwell
Sheaf Eccles
Palmer COH
Simms Wright
We win 2-1
MVE Thomas Kitching Bidwell
Sheaf Eccles
Palmer COH
Simms Wright
We win 2-1
That first picture, there is some serous microwaves in the vicinity!
play_in_skyblue_stripes
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Wolves ground is right in centre. Loads of options. Sadly don't have a ticket.
play_in_skyblue_stripes
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Top band.
I saw them last year night before Birmingham away game.
fernandopartridge
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We were a couple of penalty kicks away from this being a league game this season. I think the predictions of us being easily beaten are a bit OTT.
fernandopartridge
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Palmer and O'Hare just do not work together
pusbccfc
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Wilson would have had death threats if he conceded a goal like Watford's.
Ccfcisparks
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Palmer doesnt work full stop. Want us to play whatever we need to not be defeatist and play a back 5.
baldy
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Why is it OTT? We didn't play Wolves in the play-off final
Ccfcisparks
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They ended last game with a youth striker up front, Sarabia and one of their CM's on the wing. If we go with a back 5 its ridiculous. The battle will be in the midfield and on their left side.
skybluecam
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Collins is better in almost every way and the stats prove it
fernandopartridge
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Read the post again
fernandopartridge
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Are you saying he would have saved that?
San Francisco
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Think Wolves will create a lot of chances and generally dominate the match but will struggle to put any away. Sarabia will possibly be their biggest threat going forward but he hasn't played a full 90 since December.
Talk of us getting smashed 3/4-0 is nonsense unless we set up poorly.
Talk of us getting smashed 3/4-0 is nonsense unless we set up poorly.
Ccfcisparks
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Their biggest threat is Ait Nouri by far, Wolves supporting friends expect him to start LW.
San Francisco
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Forgot about him.
fernandopartridge
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They don't create a great deal of chances, 14th highest in the PL from open play. Better from set pieces.
Ccfcisparks
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Lemina is a serious threat from set pieces. If we defend like we did that long throw on the weekend we are in trouble.
pusbccfc
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Who knows but Collins positioning is poor. Can't work out if he's standing front post assuming he can catch the ball.
It's a very good header though. Once again proves how dangerous long throws can be. It's a real shame we don't use our two players capable of them.