stupot07
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School buildings, no idea if they are still being used.
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School buildings, no idea if they are still being used.The buildings to the right of the stadium... are they school building or residential? Still being used? I don’t know the area.
School buildings, no idea if they are still being used.
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Much needs to be explained though. You can't take any of these chancers at their word.
Especially gven that we've heard so many different stories over the years, why only 3 months ago the Ricoh was plan A & there was no plan B.
So they would also block a new housing estate build as well then??Les needs to do his homework better. The highways agency wouldn’t allow it full stop and it would never get planning permission as the local residents would delay the application so long we’d up be pushing up Daisy’s by the time it was approved.
I mean re: funding, is there land to build a retail site and a training ground with a stadium? Could It be like the Ricoh and selling of a chunk of land to Tesco? They paid 60 million, that would fund a stadium surely?
Iirc the Tesco deal didnt cover the entire cost of the Ricoh, it certainly contributed a big proportion of it though. I think the main issues around the Woodlands site would be the suitability of a large scale development and whether the roads could take the traffic.I mean re: funding, is there land to build a retail site and a training ground with a stadium? Could It be like the Ricoh and selling of a chunk of land to Tesco? They paid 60 million, that would fund a stadium surely?
The coucil have it earmarked for educational purposes though don't they? Who said anything about housing?as would it if the council want to build houses on it! so its just another excuse by the council
No chance, its over a mile and a half away15 minute walk
Iirc the Tesco deal didnt cover the entire cost of the Ricoh, it certainly contributed a big proportion of it though. I think the main issues around the Woodlands site would be the suitability of a large scale development and whether the roads could take the traffic.
Believe it is education and sporting so that wouldn't be an issue.The coucil have it earmarked for educational purposes though don't they? Who said anything about housing?
I take your point, ive no idea whether its likely to be approved or not but there will be differing levels of support/objection for different sites. Woodlands looks quite residential which would be my biggest fear, im not a planner though.The road and traffic arguments - same as when any other ground is mentioned is a smokescreen really.
Look at banner lane which had to cope with Massey Ferguson and browns lane when it was jaguar. The huge housing estate from the windmill to Pickford green will have around 30,000 occupants and a shopping centre and industrial occupancy
Could not agree with this more. Pressure should now be on the council to either clearly state why this is a non starter or to do a deal similar to the one they have with Wasps for car park C at the Ricoh.But the fucking council need to grow some balls and put this to the test, call their bluff to prove it. Someone has to blink first, we're the football equivalent of brexit.
I take your point, ive no idea whether its likely to be approved or not but there will be differing levels of support/objection for different sites. Woodlands looks quite residential which would be my biggest fear, im not a planner though.
Problem is, with all these sites, there'll always be perfectly rational reasons why they're a non-starter. And many of those reasons will apply to any site we can come up with. Those reasons don't have to rule a site out, but can. Point being, it wouldn't take CCC long to come up with plausible reasons why a site's not worth pursuing, so the question's a bit redundant.Pressure should now be on the council to either clearly state why this is a non starter
Again though residents have no say at all in such matters. They never have - there may be protests but in the end it’s ignored
I don’t it will happen but I can’t see one supporter having an issue with locality
There would be ample room for large parking spaces and traffic management systems to get people in and out.
It’s not an especially busy road network away at weekends
That would be the sensible thing to start breaking the impasse. I feel that the council are reluctant to have another stadium in the city though as if their Wasps project goes pop they have a massive white elephant at the Ricoh and they'll be picking up the costs.Could not agree with this more. Pressure should now be on the council to either clearly state why this is a non starter or to do a deal similar to the one they have with Wasps for car park C at the Ricoh.
They have given Wasps an 18 month license there in which time they don't have to pay a penny but have an agreement they can purchase the lease upon approval of a planning application.
Absolutely no reason they can't do the same for the club and then there is a definite time frame which SISU have to work to.
Then put pressure on Wasps to agree a short term deal to cover the time frame.
All done on the basis that legal action will be dropped at a certain point, lets says when planning permission is granted and the lease option taken up.
Lets put an end to all the bickering and move forward on that basis. Things will then come to a conclusion one way or another. Either there is a new stadium and the legals dropped or SISU have to admit it is all a bluff.
It’s not an especially busy road network away at weekends
Iirc the Tesco deal didnt cover the entire cost of the Ricoh, it certainly contributed a big proportion of it though. I think the main issues around the Woodlands site would be the suitability of a large scale development and whether the roads could take the traffic.
Well if they haven't learned anything from past dealings with SISU, maybe they will on this if it is trueThe coucil have it earmarked for educational purposes though don't they? Who said anything about housing?
I don't think Councils can simply block a planning application based on a vindictive basis. So any application would need to be considered, & a reasoned response for granting or refusing provided..."Only if they drop the legals first" wouldn't stand up in Court - which is exactly where SISU would take if they did soCould not agree with this more. Pressure should now be on the council to either clearly state why this is a non starter or to do a deal similar to the one they have with Wasps for car park C at the Ricoh.
They have given Wasps an 18 month license there in which time they don't have to pay a penny but have an agreement they can purchase the lease upon approval of a planning application.
Absolutely no reason they can't do the same for the club and then there is a definite time frame which SISU have to work to.
Then put pressure on Wasps to agree a short term deal to cover the time frame.
All done on the basis that legal action will be dropped at a certain point, lets says when planning permission is granted and the lease option taken up.
Lets put an end to all the bickering and move forward on that basis. Things will then come to a conclusion one way or another. Either there is a new stadium and the legals dropped or SISU have to admit it is all a bluff.
I had a look last night and I can't find anywhere on the council website that shows cabinet approval. Can you point me in the right direction.
Let's not play stupid and pretend the council couldn't make things very difficult for the club if they wanted to. 6 weeks for an email reply wasn't it?
I had a look last night and I can't find anywhere on the council website that shows cabinet approval. Can you point me in the right direction.
Given the time the council have been claimed to be sat on this proposal from the club, something the council haven't denied, I sincerely hope they aren't stalling until they can get an alternative plan together that prevents the site being used for a stadium.
You cannot seriously compare Masseys and it’s traffic with a new stadium first there was a huge car park at the back of the plant and obvious there were two rush hours day and lorry traffic but that grew over time from before the war, starting when there were few cars. Eastern Green estate didn’t exist intil the 70s, I remember that being fields right through to Allesley.The road and traffic arguments - same as when any other ground is mentioned is a smokescreen really.
Look at banner lane which had to cope with Massey Ferguson and browns lane when it was jaguar. The huge housing estate from the windmill to Pickford green will have around 30,000 occupants and a shopping centre and industrial occupancy
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