No I agree, take this more as a general question though as opposed to this season specificYep, pretty much, especially when you consider the off field bollocks hes had to manage through.
But let's not get too carried away, we've only played 9 games!
Sillett was a one hit wonder. Hill did it in easier times. Robins getting us promoted given the backdrop would be a massive achievementNo Sillets record and history was far better than robins whose performing at s very different level
Hill as a manager clearly was a massive innovator as well as his record of achievement
Sillett was a one hit wonder. Hill did it in easier times. Robins getting us promoted given the backdrop would be a massive achievement
Would put him a clear second to Hill. Hill is probably insurmountable due to the off field stuff he did as well (the kit, nickname, song, etc.) having such a lasting impact.
Now if he got us a new ground....
Edit: I voted no, but actually should be yes. He’ll be in the same category, but not at the same level.
Agree with G and Shmmeee...
I wasn't around in the JH era so hard to understand the impact but just knowing about it, JH transformed the club on and off the pitch, gave the club an identity. I think it MR got us back to the EPL and we still didn't have a ground/were playing at Stans, then I think he'd deserve to be recognised as similar to JH in what they had done for the club.
Defo the best manager in my lifetime (39).
Sillett was a one hit wonder. Hill did it in easier times. Robins getting us promoted given the backdrop would be a massive achievement
I would say yes on the basis of a "modern day" legend.
Football has changed since Jimmy Hill's and Sillett's era.
For the tools MR has, he is exceeding expectations, so it's a yes from me.
Strachan once made a valid point in the season we were achieving and close to a FA Cup semi final
He said the managers who went before him were far more successful than him for keeping the club when it had zero resources in the top flight every single year.
Many managers and players kept a seemingly impossible record possible
I get the hype but robins is not a higher league manager and has competitive resources.
It’s a bit silly to compare him to the likes of Sillett, Milne, Sexton etc even the much maligned Phil Neal has a good record with us
How on earth has it changed since Silletts era? What manager would transform a club from constant relegation scrappers in the top flight to every season a top half finish, huge attendance increases, a cup winner, two semi finals?
What has actually changed in reality?
Do you slightly dislike Robins?
How on earth has it changed since Silletts era? What manager would transform a club from constant relegation scrappers in the top flight to every season a top half finish, huge attendance increases, a cup winner, two semi finals?
What has actually changed in reality?
Some fuckers just want an argument!
Hill is a legend
Snoz is a legend
Milne defo deserves some sort of status,
And IF he gets us into the championship, MR will be joining that band (quite where in the order is open to debate, but ultimately irrelevant)
We are top of the league, letts just enjoy it!!!
I can't quite work out if that's a serious comment. You think football is the same now compared to 1990?
In what way is if different in relative terms for a club like ours?
Mainly money involved in the game plus we don't own our own ground anymore for one?
Many clubs do not own their own ground?
The money relatively makes little difference.
Ccfc were for years a relegation threatened club who became an established top half club in the top league under Sillett
So by your argument Nathan Jones at Luton was a better manager than David Pleat.
Really?
I agree with most of what you say, I just feel that you are a little harsh on JH when you say he left us in the lurch. If you read his autobiography it explains the circumstances. He wanted a ten year contract, Robbins, the chairman at the time, wouldn’t agree. However Jimmy says that he was disappointed that the board never came back to him with a compromise offer. It sounded like he very much wanted to stay but no talks took place. He also agreed to stay on as manager until a new man was appointed. He consequently managed the club for the first 12 matches in the first division, rather than simply walking away. I wonder where the club would have got to if he had stayed as at that time and in that era, winning the league was open to virtually any club who were managed and well run and wasn’t ring fenced by money in favour of whoever is in the current top six as in the PL today.Not instantly but I think his stock would rise over time to be mentioned along with, but not alongside, Hill. If for no other reason than the complete change Hill made to the club and its operations all round, not just on the pitch (even though that was impressive)
Hill was also very well backed by his chairman at the time and although MR has been backed to a certain extent he does have more constraints to work with overall. Some people may also point out MR's defection in his first stint but JH also left us in the lurch on the eve of the big time to go to TV, but because it wasn't another team for some reason it doesn't seem as bad.
Love the style of football we're playing under Robins. The lower league thing doesn't really bother me, I just like to watch good football.
We played some spectacular stuff under Sillett, not just in 87. I also think we took our foot off the gas after the semi final in 87, if there had been Europe at stake, or even the ridiculous financial rewards there currently are for each place further up the league you finish I think that team could of got top 6.
Wasn't around for the Hill era, (well, was a baby), but it looked amazing, would love to have been at the Wolves game.
Apparently, we can't compete in the championship on our current financial model, so which one is it?
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