fernandopartridge
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In fairness I wouldn't call half of them stories. Some are virtually adverts and the rest PR.
People aren't complaining about them doing stories. What people have complained about is the prominence of Wasps compared to our own football team and on occasion CCFC and the ongoing narrative. Whether by design or not a lot of Wasps stories come across as PR for the club, everything has a positive spin on it. The opposite is the case with CCFC, everything has a negative spin on it.
They do a story on Wasps playing on Saturdays from next season. Bad CET for doing the story. But if they didn't do the story it would have been bad CET for hiding the news from us.
In fairness I wouldn't call half of them stories. Some are virtually adverts and the rest PR.
Virtually?!
Why is it that if you don't support Wasps and even slightly criticise the reporting in the Telegraph you're pro SISU?
Why don't CCFC do an in depth interview with the telegraph and this by the way is a serios suggestion. They could then say what they are going to do in the future because now I don't cate what they've done in the past. Mind you will probably change my mind this afternoon.
What's happening this afternoon?Why don't CCFC do an in depth interview with the telegraph and this by the way is a serios suggestion. They could then say what they are going to do in the future because now I don't cate what they've done in the past. Mind you will probably change my mind this afternoon.
The whole tone of the article would be different. Keep the same content but just change names and see how it's taken. Amazing pr would change to lying to fans.Because it would all be lies, wouldn't it? If you had substituted Derek Richardson with Steve Waggot or Tim Fisher then...well..you can imagine.
You've got to start somewhere Torch you say something and then do it no matter how small and then something else etc etc. these do not have to be grand gestures look how people react when they get a free flag off Wasps when they send them an email thanking them etc. people talk about wasps or machine most if not all of their pr initiatives could be thought up in a half hour brainstorming session. We are so used to bad pr that we think wasps are spending millions doing the basics.Because it would all be lies, wouldn't it? If you had substituted Derek Richardson with Steve Waggot or Tim Fisher then...well..you can imagine.
You've got to start somewhere Torch you say something and then do it no matter how small and then something else etc etc. these do not have to be grand gestures look how people react when they get a free flag off Wasps when they send them an email thanking them etc. people talk about wasps or machine most if not all of their pr initiatives could be thought up in a half hour brainstorming session. We are so used to bad pr that we think wasps are spending millions doing the basics.
Imagine if an article appears in the CT tomorrow with Fisher saying we need to move 85 miles away to some empty stadium he's found else we will go out of business. There would be absolute uproar.
Because it would all be lies, wouldn't it? If you had substituted Derek Richardson with Steve Waggot or Tim Fisher then...well..you can imagine.
It's like Turner's report on the fantastic vocal support on Tuesday night. Rather than "Fantastic Support" it was headlined as "Dwindling Support" being vocal. That may be true but they start off in a negative way from the start. I don't remember them having a similar headline with Wasps' attendances halving since December...
To be fair you may well have stumbled across the real reason no such interview will ever happen. If TF went on the record he'd probably never get up again with all the amount of tripping himself up it would cause. So why would he do it?
Wasps fall:
Tim Fisher fall:
I am all for people tripping over, but they are both bullshitters at the end of the day. One is better than the other, doesn't mean it isn't bullshit though does it.
Come on Nick. Why do you keep on trying to make out others are 'as bad' as Fisher? PKWhatever-his-name-is, Lucas, Muttkn, now Wasps. Yes, some have played a role, but there has been one universal constant. His nemesis may change, but he's there - throughout - taking on all-comers and out bullshitting every challenger. Surely there's a time when you'll see his form over time and cease this charade that others are even close to being in the same league?!?
Where did I say as bad? I said they are all bullshitters, they are all in it for what they can get out of it.
Is bullshit better because it comes from a certain person or not?
I said 'make out'. Clearly. You'll happily jump around like Rumpelstiltskin when I'm accused of being pro-Wasps (following accusations of being pro-Thorn, pro-CCC, etc.), but your posts - over time - don't criticise our club's owners for the carefree risks they've taken with the club, and the road it's now delivered us along. You just constantly try and find other parties you can share their blame with
Being Vocal is negative? Odd stance to take Torch
To be fair you may well have stumbled across the real reason no such interview will ever happen. If TF went on the record he'd probably never get up again with all the amount of tripping himself up it would cause. So why would he do it?
Point proved brilliantly. This "in theory" artcile hasn't even been written but you think he's lying.
Point proved brilliantly. This "in theory" artcile hasn't even been written but you think he's lying.
I absolutely agree, BH, I really do. However, I think we both know that anything Fisher or Waggot says is immediately pulled apart and villified. OK, they've not helped themselves but I imagine they don't say anything as there's no point. Whereby Richardson has blatantly reneged on several of their "pledges" and not a whimper.