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fernandopartridge

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In fairness I wouldn't call half of them stories. Some are virtually adverts and the rest PR.
 

skybluetony176

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People aren't complaining about them doing stories. What people have complained about is the prominence of Wasps compared to our own football team and on occasion CCFC and the ongoing narrative. Whether by design or not a lot of Wasps stories come across as PR for the club, everything has a positive spin on it. The opposite is the case with CCFC, everything has a negative spin on it.


The club should give them some CCFC news to write about then. As an added bonus they could even try to find a positive story, if there is one.
 
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torchomatic

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It's not the messwenger it's the message. Didn't Wasps say they would play on Sundays so it's didn't affect CCFC and CRFC? Bullshit.

They do a story on Wasps playing on Saturdays from next season. Bad CET for doing the story. But if they didn't do the story it would have been bad CET for hiding the news from us.
 

Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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Why don't CCFC do an in depth interview with the telegraph and this by the way is a serios suggestion. They could then say what they are going to do in the future because now I don't cate what they've done in the past. Mind you will probably change my mind this afternoon.
 

torchomatic

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Because it would all be lies, wouldn't it? If you had substituted Derek Richardson with Steve Waggot or Tim Fisher then...well..you can imagine.

Why don't CCFC do an in depth interview with the telegraph and this by the way is a serios suggestion. They could then say what they are going to do in the future because now I don't cate what they've done in the past. Mind you will probably change my mind this afternoon.
 

Nick

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Why don't CCFC do an in depth interview with the telegraph and this by the way is a serios suggestion. They could then say what they are going to do in the future because now I don't cate what they've done in the past. Mind you will probably change my mind this afternoon.
What's happening this afternoon?
 

Nick

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Because it would all be lies, wouldn't it? If you had substituted Derek Richardson with Steve Waggot or Tim Fisher then...well..you can imagine.
The whole tone of the article would be different. Keep the same content but just change names and see how it's taken. Amazing pr would change to lying to fans.
 

Monners

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Just don't read any of it - I haven't bothered since the first article, primarily because Wasps don't interest me. One less reader for the CT.
 

torchomatic

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It's like Turner's report on the fantastic vocal support on Tuesday night. Rather than "Fantastic Support" it was headlined as "Dwindling Support" being vocal. That may be true but they start off in a negative way from the start. I don't remember them having a similar headline with Wasps' attendances halving since December...
 

Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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Because it would all be lies, wouldn't it? If you had substituted Derek Richardson with Steve Waggot or Tim Fisher then...well..you can imagine.
You've got to start somewhere Torch you say something and then do it no matter how small and then something else etc etc. these do not have to be grand gestures look how people react when they get a free flag off Wasps when they send them an email thanking them etc. people talk about wasps or machine most if not all of their pr initiatives could be thought up in a half hour brainstorming session. We are so used to bad pr that we think wasps are spending millions doing the basics.
 

chiefdave

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Imagine if an article appears in the CT tomorrow with Fisher saying we need to move 85 miles away to some empty stadium he's found else we will go out of business. There would be absolute uproar.
 

torchomatic

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I absolutely agree, BH, I really do. However, I think we both know that anything Fisher or Waggot says is immediately pulled apart and villified. OK, they've not helped themselves but I imagine they don't say anything as there's no point. Whereby Richardson has blatantly reneged on several of their "pledges" and not a whimper.

You've got to start somewhere Torch you say something and then do it no matter how small and then something else etc etc. these do not have to be grand gestures look how people react when they get a free flag off Wasps when they send them an email thanking them etc. people talk about wasps or machine most if not all of their pr initiatives could be thought up in a half hour brainstorming session. We are so used to bad pr that we think wasps are spending millions doing the basics.
 

The Gentleman

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Imagine if an article appears in the CT tomorrow with Fisher saying we need to move 85 miles away to some empty stadium he's found else we will go out of business. There would be absolute uproar.

Probably because most of us on here are CCFC fans and not Wasps FFS. People seem to spend too much time comparing the two when quite frankly I couldn't give a flying shite what Wasps do, as I would imagine most feel on here. The fact that some feel the need to keep bringing up Wasps on this forum is fucking baffling.

Some say they are going to change the colour of seats, so what. You have to sit on them, that's all and the players should be focused on the pitch.
Some moan about the signs, but are they really any different from a scaffolding company or someone selling printer paper.
Some moan about the changing rooms, well hopefully the players spend more time on the pitch.
Some moan about Wasps owning the Ricoh, well Sisu royally fucked that up for us.

As long as we have a team and somewhere to play, at present and after all we have been through recently, isn't that enough until we find out what our cunty owners have in store for us.

And lets be honest, it's been pretty shit for the last few years and I would like some on here who seem to be so clever to put a positive spin on embargo's, rent strikes, Sixfields, new stadiums, best players leaving, relegation battles and shit managers and players.

I have had a read through some of the stories the CT have put out and not all of them are negative either. I think some of it is peoples perspectives and opinions which sway their thinking.
 

ccfcway

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Being expert accountants was so 2014.

2015 is the year of the PR gurus
 
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Ranjit Bhurpa

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As a media outlet for all local sport, how about the CET provided a little more coverage to Coventry Rugby Club who have represented this city since 1874 and were once the top club in the country? Unlike a certain franchise club that have been here for about 5 minutes with absolutely no local connections.
Mr Gilbert would appear to have more chance of unearthing Lord Lucan than writing a piece on our local rugby team.
 

skybluetony176

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Because it would all be lies, wouldn't it? If you had substituted Derek Richardson with Steve Waggot or Tim Fisher then...well..you can imagine.

To be fair you may well have stumbled across the real reason no such interview will ever happen. If TF went on the record he'd probably never get up again with all the amount of tripping himself up it would cause. So why would he do it?
 

skybluetony176

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It's like Turner's report on the fantastic vocal support on Tuesday night. Rather than "Fantastic Support" it was headlined as "Dwindling Support" being vocal. That may be true but they start off in a negative way from the start. I don't remember them having a similar headline with Wasps' attendances halving since December...

Being Vocal is negative? Odd stance to take Torch :p
 

Nick

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To be fair you may well have stumbled across the real reason no such interview will ever happen. If TF went on the record he'd probably never get up again with all the amount of tripping himself up it would cause. So why would he do it?

Wasps fall:

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Tim Fisher fall:

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I am all for people tripping over, but they are both bullshitters at the end of the day. One is better than the other, doesn't mean it isn't bullshit though does it.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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Wasps fall:

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Tim Fisher fall:

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I am all for people tripping over, but they are both bullshitters at the end of the day. One is better than the other, doesn't mean it isn't bullshit though does it.

Come on Nick. Why do you keep on trying to make out others are 'as bad' as Fisher? PKWhatever-his-name-is, Lucas, Mutton, now Wasps. Yes, some have played a role, but there has been one universal constant. His nemesis may change, but he's there - throughout - taking on all-comers and out bullshitting every challenger. Surely there's a time when you'll see his form over time and cease this charade that others are even close to being in the same league?!?
 
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Nick

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Come on Nick. Why do you keep on trying to make out others are 'as bad' as Fisher? PKWhatever-his-name-is, Lucas, Muttkn, now Wasps. Yes, some have played a role, but there has been one universal constant. His nemesis may change, but he's there - throughout - taking on all-comers and out bullshitting every challenger. Surely there's a time when you'll see his form over time and cease this charade that others are even close to being in the same league?!?

Where did I say as bad? I said they are all bullshitters, they are all in it for what they can get out of it.

Is bullshit better because it comes from a certain person or not?
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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Where did I say as bad? I said they are all bullshitters, they are all in it for what they can get out of it.

Is bullshit better because it comes from a certain person or not?

I said 'make out'. Clearly. You'll happily jump around like Rumpelstiltskin when I'm accused of being pro-Wasps (following accusations of being pro-Thorn, pro-CCC, etc.), but your posts - over time - don't criticise our club's owners for the carefree risks they've taken with the club, and the road it's now delivered us along. You just constantly try and find other parties you can share their blame with
 

Nick

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I said 'make out'. Clearly. You'll happily jump around like Rumpelstiltskin when I'm accused of being pro-Wasps (following accusations of being pro-Thorn, pro-CCC, etc.), but your posts - over time - don't criticise our club's owners for the carefree risks they've taken with the club, and the road it's now delivered us along. You just constantly try and find other parties you can share their blame with

So is bullshit from one person ok but not another?

That isn't me blaming one over another is it? That is saying they all bullshit but it seems that it is classed as great PR if some do it but lying to fans and misleading them if others do it.
 

torchomatic

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torchomatic

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Point proved brilliantly. This "in theory" artcile hasn't even been written but you think he's lying.

To be fair you may well have stumbled across the real reason no such interview will ever happen. If TF went on the record he'd probably never get up again with all the amount of tripping himself up it would cause. So why would he do it?
 

Grendel

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Point proved brilliantly. This "in theory" artcile hasn't even been written but you think he's lying.

Unless its building a new ground and permanently leaving Coventry of course
 

skybluetony176

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Point proved brilliantly. This "in theory" artcile hasn't even been written but you think he's lying.

I'm just pointing out in theory why this in theory article won't happen. I'll make up my mind if it's lies or not when said full and frank interview happens, which we both know won't happen.
 

Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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I absolutely agree, BH, I really do. However, I think we both know that anything Fisher or Waggot says is immediately pulled apart and villified. OK, they've not helped themselves but I imagine they don't say anything as there's no point. Whereby Richardson has blatantly reneged on several of their "pledges" and not a whimper.

Didn't reply because I was at work,Torch it doesn't matter what Richardson reneged on it doesn't matter what he said,what does matter is what the owners of our club say or do. If we could get 20-25000 for our games can you imagine the exposure the Ricoh would get thats when you start negotiating,thats when the new owners of ACL start offering because thats when they can renegotiate other contracts,because they need that ground fullish and not just for a small number of rugby ground. What they wont do is give away anything if they think our owners are taking the piss and we are just a side show with 7 or 8000 fans. the telling thing is that nobody has talked to them about a share why the hell not? Oh and don't believe Richardson when he says he's not interested in CCFC hasnt done the owner of Bristol City and Bristol Rugby Club any harm has it and dont tell me Richardson hasn't noticed.
 

CCFC_Charlie

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Noticed Wasps have been very tactical with placing massive half page ads on the back of the Telegraph every time we play or the day after we've just played.
 

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