Yesterday + Plan for this week + 11 Aug (1 Viewer)

Delboycov

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They do, but if you say look on GMK there are a few who are saying they either went on the protest but nearly walked off because of the Sisu Out chants and some who didn't go at all because they didn't want it to turn into anti-Sisu event.

Everything now should be focused on Coventry City IN Coventry. Everything else is secondary.

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Oh right GMK......enough said Otis ;-)
 

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Jack Griffin

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Michael, people need a focus. OK. If the idea is to have a 'Jimmy's Hill' protest AND something at the Ricoh, spell it out. However, I honestly think it will weaken our case doing both.

Yes, do not dilute the action and confuse people, one strong plan & make it in Coventry so it is easier for people to attend.. learn from yesterday.. events in Cov can get big numbers.. events in London & Northampton will get very small attendance & you'll lay yourself open to accusations of fan indifference..

As for the anti SISU chants, they were spontaneous and I didn't think there was a lot of dissent in the crowd, just the normal mix of people at a match, some sing out & some are more reserved... you can't gag people if that is what they truly feel.. don't overrate the views a very few people on another site, use what you saw & heard from yesterday to gauge the mood.
 
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skybluesam66

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jimmys hill would be best - imagine us scoring and the players coming towards the hill to milk the applause

~Or after the game, applauding the hill for the support

you would need a couple of hundred minumum however to make it noisy enough - but the more the better
 

Spionkop

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Skybluesam66, that's a brilliant image, running to the hill. Love it, absolutely love it.
But can't help thinking things would be better if everyone concentrated on the Ricoh. Half at Sixfields & half at the Ricoh, it'll dilute the impact.
To be honest I'd like to be in both places at the same time!
 

Johnnythespider

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They do, but if you say look on GMK there are a few who are saying they either went on the protest but nearly walked off because of the Sisu Out chants and some who didn't go at all because they didn't want it to turn into anti-Sisu event.

Everything now should be focused on Coventry City IN Coventry. Everything else is secondary.

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They could have started a " we want sisu in " chant then, anyone who was there yesterday and wasn't expecting to here anti sisu chanting is imo extremely naive !!
 

covkid69

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Didn't NTFC say that the police cordon the hill off on match days so nobody can get on it.
still think a peaceful pitch invasion at sixfields would be a good idea....yeah i know people have mentioned banning orders etc but would they do that if enough people went onto the pitch....get the game abandoned and that will get media coverage and embarrass shitzu....just a thought
 

Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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They do, but if you say look on GMK there are a few who are saying they either went on the protest but nearly walked off because of the Sisu Out chants and some who didn't go at all because they didn't want it to turn into anti-Sisu event.

Everything now should be focused on Coventry City IN Coventry. Everything else is secondary.

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Its a good job that the vast majority who went yesterday have not even heard of GMK or SBT for that matter. What did they or even you think was going to happen? Everybody I spoke to old, middleaged or young want Sisu out, except of course the Brain Trust which is GMK and a few others on here whose posts always end with of course I am not defending Sisu etc but spend the rest of the post doing just that.
Yesterday was about keepin Cov in Cov but why did we need the event? Could it be the fact that Sisu are taking the club out of it?
So a few people on GMK were thinking of walking off and a few didn't go GOOD dont go to the next one youre not needed and you wont be missed.
 
i dont know if this is do-able or not but here is my idea.

could the sky blues trust and acl work TOGETHER to hold a family fun day at the ricoh on 11th august. open up the jag exhibition hall and have fair rides, ex cov players, cov blaze/ bees and cov rfc represntation, with the match and music on loudspeakers. while this is going on could a couple of matches be arranged between cov united v cov sphinx and cov city legends v a graeme hawley celebrity 11

any money made to cover costs plus whatevers leftover to go to help for heroes or something.

just an idea, failing that id be up for jimmys hill
 
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true sky blue

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concentrate on protesting againt the council and you will get us back in the Ricoh within a week. they need to simply sell to sisu
 

covkid53

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100% agree we continue to apply pressure to the FL, SISU, NTFC and individuals such as Fisher and Waggot.

But, in the event that all these players in this farce do not change their minds we need to have plan B,C and D ready to go.

For example, my plan overall is simple.....

Starve Otium of income.

Don't attend Sixfields matches,
Don't buy Northampton based team products.
Wear last seasons shirts, till they come home to Cov.
Embarrass the hell out Otium by leaving them with an empty stadium every "home" game.

Picket and leaflet the "home" turnstiles to explain our problem,
Arrange to meet all vistiting trusts in a nearby pub on "home" fixture days.
Encourage the away supporters in the ground to sing anti SISU out songs and drive the board bonkers in the mainstand.

Attend all away games in number and sing anti Sisu songs incessantly.
Meet Trusts away from home to get their support.

Above all, support the team.... it's not their fault.

Make these leeches crawl on hands and knees back to the Ricoh..... WE CAN WIN THIS !!!
 

covkid53

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concentrate on protesting againt the council and you will get us back in the Ricoh within a week. they need to simply sell to sisu

STUPID, ignorant statement....

CCC/ Higgs saved the stadium 2000 Ricoh project when CCFC couldn't or Wouldn't fund it.

They invested 113 million pounds with CCFC paying only 30 million over 25 years, WHO DO YOU THINK PAYS THE REST OF THE 83 million ?

ACL/ HIGGS do.... get real and don't muddy the waters with this nonsense.
 

shropshirecov

New Member
STUPID, ignorant statement....

CCC/ Higgs saved the stadium 2000 Ricoh project when CCFC couldn't or Wouldn't fund it.

They invested 113 million pounds with CCFC paying only 30 million over 25 years, WHO DO YOU THINK PAYS THE REST OF THE 83 million ?

ACL/ HIGGS do.... get real and don't muddy the waters with this nonsense.

No they didn't. Absolute rubbish.
 

ccfcway

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Didn't NTFC say that the police cordon the hill off on match days so nobody can get on it.
still think a peaceful pitch invasion at sixfields would be a good idea....yeah i know people have mentioned banning orders etc but would they do that if enough people went onto the pitch....get the game abandoned and that will get media coverage and embarrass shitzu....just a thought

There was talk of them putting up a wall, so you cant see the pitch from the hill, but i dont think the police cordon off the hill. The one thing for certian is, if they dont put up the "wall" for the 1st home game, they certainly will for the 2nd
 

skybluesam66

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STUPID, ignorant statement....

CCC/ Higgs saved the stadium 2000 Ricoh project when CCFC couldn't or Wouldn't fund it.

They invested 113 million pounds with CCFC paying only 30 million over 25 years, WHO DO YOU THINK PAYS THE REST OF THE 83 million ?

ACL/ HIGGS do.... get real and don't muddy the waters with this nonsense.

miles off mark cov kid - you will find that to date the football club in rent and decontamination, have put in more than both the council and higgs trust

yet for that they own nothing
 

covkid53

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No they didn't. Absolute rubbish.

The Arena Coventry complex is split into TWO entities, The Stadium complex including casino and exhibition halls etc; The Retail complex was in part funded by Tesco to enable the WHOLE project to get off the ground.

The 113 million is for the stadium complex on its own..... how much do you think it cost to build this complex ? The retail part of the complex is quite separate and still is.

Maybe they didn't actually have to SPEND the 113 million, but they did have it underwrite it when CCFC pulled out of the deal. Why do you think CCC recently had to invest 14 million to prevent ACL going under ?

I suggest you look into the project post 1997 when it commenced, to get to the truth about it financing before saying I write rubbish.....
 

skybluesam66

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The Arena Coventry complex is split into TWO entities, The Stadium complex including casino and exhibition halls etc; The Retail complex was in part funded by Tesco to enable the WHOLE project to get off the ground.

The 113 million is for the stadium complex on its own..... how much do you think it cost to build this complex ? The retail part of the complex is quite separate and still is.

113 total cost
approx 60m funded by tesco
then there were grants and all sorts

oldskyblue often puts the numbers up

do you really think the council would have paid 113m?????

Maybe they didn't actually have to SPEND the 113 million, but they did have it underwrite it when CCFC pulled out of the deal. Why do you think CCC recently had to invest 14 million to prevent ACL going under ?

I suggest you look into the project post 1997 when it commenced, to get to the truth about it financing before saying I write rubbish.....
 

covkid53

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Sam66, I quite agree they spent a fortune on the prelim work, but it was nowhere near finished. There was still a gasometer etc; and other ground cleaning to be done.

I firmly believe our relegation was because of two reasons, 1. the project cost City so much money player investment stopped 2. Leicester city's stadium failure caused the Cov builders to pull out and set it back years.

You are right, CCFC should have had a stake for what they spent in the prelim works stages of the project.
 
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Jack Griffin

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jimmys hill would be best - imagine us scoring and the players coming towards the hill to milk the applause

~Or after the game, applauding the hill for the support

you would need a couple of hundred minumum however to make it noisy enough - but the more the better

What an awful thought, you cannot associate Sixfields with a Coventry legend.. that would kill the man for sure..
 
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Jack Griffin

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miles off mark cov kid - you will find that to date the football club in rent and decontamination, have put in more than both the council and higgs trust

yet for that they own nothing

That is a lie..a complete falsehood, in round figures...

CCFC put in about £6M but later sold their interest to the Higgs Charity, the rent they paid is irrelevant.. it does not entitle them to a cut, that is the way rent agreements work you idiot.

CCC put in about £25M and arranged a £21M loan and also put in all the profit from selling the land they'd acquired from British Gas (yes they bought it not CCFC), about another £45M

Higgs put in £6M to buy the clubs interest in the Arena business and they've therefore forgone all potential interest on that capital over a number of years which by now could be another £1.5M.
 
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Otis

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They could have started a " we want sisu in " chant then, anyone who was there yesterday and wasn't expecting to here anti sisu chanting is imo extremely naive !!


But the fact is, we need all the fans we can get backing the campaign. If people are put off they won't back it.

We need everyone unified.
 

Johnnythespider

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But the fact is, we need all the fans we can get backing the campaign. If people are put off they won't back it.

We need everyone unified.
100% agree with that, but surely that means we all have to accept that there are differences of opinion amongst us, and that we have to put those differences to one side, not stomp of in a hissy fit because some fans are singing something we might not like. Each to there own and all that !
 

Tom's Dad

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The only time they fenced off the hill was an FA Cup game v Man Utd and that was due to safety reasons. The hill is quite steep and could be dangerous with loads on it.
 

Otis

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I think they are saying it is fine for people to chant if they want as long as that doesn't detract from what we all really want .... and that is the City back in the city.

Basically it needs to be a Coventry in Coventry campaign rather than a Sisu Out one. Fact is, I don't think any of us believe that Sisu will just actually walk away.
 

Johnnythespider

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The only time they fenced off the hill was an FA Cup game v Man Utd and that was due to safety reasons. The hill is quite steep and could be dangerous with loads on it.
Perhaps we could buy a cheese and chase it down the hill :facepalm:
 

Johnnythespider

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I think they are saying it is fine for people to chant if they want as long as that doesn't detract from what we all really want .... and that is the City back in the city.

Basically it needs to be a Coventry in Coventry campaign rather than a Sisu Out one. Fact is, I don't think any of us believe that Sisu will just actually walk away.
All of the speeches yesterday were about coventry playing in coventry, you are right that nobody believes that they will just walk away, but that doesn't mean we can't tell them that's what we would like them to do. It is no more ridiculous than those who think the council should just hand the keys to the ricoh over.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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concentrate on protesting againt the council and you will get us back in the Ricoh within a week. they need to simply sell to sisu

What a great idea - then SISU will show how much they have really cared about the football team and fans all along. They'll invest in the team and unite the Coventry public and make sure that the flying pigs don't sh*t all over The Ricoh pitch, by re-employing the stewards they've sacked. True sky blue, you are indeed a visonary:slap:
 

skybluegnome

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Not so sure on this one.

Yes, then are many, many who are anti-Sisu etc., but there are also those who don't wish to take sides (pro ACL/Anti Sisu, pro Sisu, anti ACL), but just wish to see Coventry City playing in Coventry.

We need to unify supporters and this should now be all about keep Coventry in Coventry.

The spotlight shouldn't just be on Sepalla, it should be on all parties involved.

I would urge a re-think.

Finally, someone thinking rationally and not hysterically...
 
Not so sure on this one.

Yes, then are many, many who are anti-Sisu etc., but there are also those who don't wish to take sides (pro ACL/Anti Sisu, pro Sisu, anti ACL), but just wish to see Coventry City playing in Coventry.

We need to unify supporters and this should now be all about keep Coventry in Coventry.

The spotlight shouldn't just be on Sepalla, it should be on all parties involved.

I would urge a re-think.

I sort of agree with your overall view, but Sepalla is the one person who can make this happen. ACL are prepared to meet with her or her lapdog Fisher, but she is refusing the meeting unless ACL bow to her unreasonable demands. All parties are prepared to sort this out except SISU and she is the Dictator in charge, she has to be the one in the spotlight.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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3 points: (i) these aren't either/or choices. People want to do different things and that's fine. If 11 aug does start at northants then people can do stuff in cov or on jimmy's hill (or wherever else they fancy). It gives us 2 bites, or more, at the PR cherry

No, it splits efforts and makes it risk apathy, division, and a mixed message.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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Basically it needs to be a Coventry in Coventry campaign rather than a Sisu Out one.

As that message has been at the forefront of the first successful protest getting decent numbers and actually showing people care, surely it would be sensible to keep doing what has been shown to work and keep a nice simple, clear message.

A confused message is the surefire way to risk losing momentum, and now that momentum's up and running it would be criminal to do that.
 

shmmeee

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It should be at the Ricoh, after all the message is "Keep Cov in Cov". Money goes to charity, family events and the match on over the PA and in the concourse/surrounding area would be great. Count the official attendance and compare it to the one at Sixfields.
 

Spionkop

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Think Shmmeee is right. Made my mind up, Ricoh on the 11th for me. Even if they can't do the match commentary we've all got radios!
 

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