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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Reda Johnson can play in the championship?? I've heard it all now Hahahaha.

He could play in a lower championship team, and he'd get less stick than Martin did at times playing for a league 1 team.

He's not last a full season of course, but it's not laughable by any means.
 

Alkhen

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Think it's brutal market at the moment too, there are a few conference teams with some dosh so players are dropping down for better deals , especially as L1&2 clubs are saving money for when the Prem teams to announce squads and loan youngsters.

Fabian Robert just turned up at my local team Forest Green Rovers , who also signed Matt Tubes and Rhys Murphy both of whom have played well at our level.
 

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dongonzalos

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He could play in a lower championship team, and he'd get less stick than Martin did at times playing for a league 1 team.

He's not last a full season of course, but it's not laughable by any means.

Of course it's not. He was only at our level because of his injuries.
We would only give him a certain wage and contract because of his injuries.
Somebody way below is throwing everything at him because if he stays fit at that level he is a complete match winner
 

Grendel

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Of course it's not. He was at our level because if his injuries.
We would only give him a certain wage and contract because if his injuries.
Somebody way below us is throwing everything at him because if he stays fit at that level he is a complete match winner

How do you know what they are paying him?
 

Grendel

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TM wanted to sign him but said his wage expectations was too much.
So they are paying him more than we were prepared to.
At that level then relatively they are throwing it at him.

Mowbray never offered him a contract - where did he say they had offered any money?
 

Martin180

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Just wondering if it this situation is similar to Mike Marsh all them years ago , insurance for injuries means he can't get a contract in the football league ?
 

stupot07

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TM wanted to sign him but said his wage expectations was too much.
So they are paying him more than we were prepared to.
At that level then relatively they are throwing it at him.

Not necessarily. Its quite feasible that he was messing us around, we said cheerio, then there were no better or matching offers and so he had to take the Eastleigh offer.

Mowbray also said that it was not just his wage demands but length of contract, it's quite possible we were only prepared to give him 6 months to prove his fitness (like Ivor Lawton) and reda wanted longer, which he now has.

So theres at least 2 scenarios where Eastleigh aren't paying him more than we were offering. We have no idea how much hes on.

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Grendel

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Not necessarily. Its quite feasible that he was messing us around, we said cheerio, then there were no better or matching offers and so he had to take the Eastleigh offer.

Mowbray also said that it was not just his wage demands but length of contract, it's quite possible we were only prepared to give him 6 months to prove his fitness (like Ivor Lawton) and reda wanted longer, which he now has.

So theres at least 2 scenarios where Eastleigh aren't paying him more than we were offering. We have no idea how much hes on.

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Correct - Eastleigh are regarded as big wage payers but the general view is he will not be getting more than £1,500 a week
 

KG7

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Just wondering if it this situation is similar to Mike Marsh all them years ago , insurance for injuries means he can't get a contract in the football league ?

I think re Marsh the situation that there was a clause in his insurance payout that said he could never play in the league again. Ie the claim would be invalid if he did...


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dongonzalos

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Not necessarily. Its quite feasible that he was messing us around, we said cheerio, then there were no better or matching offers and so he had to take the Eastleigh offer.

Mowbray also said that it was not just his wage demands but length of contract, it's quite possible we were only prepared to give him 6 months to prove his fitness (like Ivor Lawton) and reda wanted longer, which he now has.

So theres at least 2 scenarios where Eastleigh aren't paying him more than we were offering. We have no idea how much hes on.

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TM said wage demands AND contract length.
So wage demands were a factor.
Eastleigh to be anywhere near what we were offering him to pay him at their level
Relativity will be throwing money at him.
 

Martin180

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I think re Marsh the situation that there was a clause in his insurance payout that said he could never play in the league again. Ie the claim would be invalid if he did...


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Ah yes that's right , was just thinking outside the box , seems a very bizarre move for League 1's Rio Ferdinand (if you listen to the pundits on here )
 

Grendel

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TM said wage demands AND contract length.
So wage demands were a factor.
Eastleigh to be anywhere near what we were offering him to pay him at their level
Relativity will be throwing money at him.

No they have 4 or 5 players earning around £1 - £1.5 a week and he will be in that bracket.

We never said we wanted to keep him and certainly never offered a firm proposal regarding wages.
 

dongonzalos

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Correct - Eastleigh are regarded as big wage payers but the general view is he will not be getting more than £1,500 a week

General view? Sorry I haven't got access to that, can you show me where?
Also what is the average weekly wage at that level?
 

dongonzalos

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No they have 4 or 5 players earning around £1 - £1.5 a week and he will be in that bracket.

We never said we wanted to keep him and certainly never offered a firm proposal regarding wages.

I do sometimes wonder if you actually read this forum that you post so much on
 

Grendel

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stupot07

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TM said wage demands AND contract length.
So wage demands were a factor.
Eastleigh to be anywhere near what we were offering him to pay him at their level
Relativity will be throwing money at him.
But his demands against what we believed he was worth.

We could have offered him 6 months at £2k pw (I imagine he'd have previously been on c£3k pw previously) = £52k

He'd have likely been injured and wouldn't have got a renewal.

And at Eastleigh he has a 12 month deal with the option of a 2nd year. Using purely arbitrary figure let's say they offered him £1.5k PW * ( so less than us) over 12 months (guaranteed) =£78k

In which scenario is the better deal for reda?

That's why it was ridiculous the notion that he was ever going to accept a pay as you play deal.

*I doubt he's getting paid a league one average salary at Eastleigh even if their owner is throwing money in.


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Grendel

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General view? Sorry I haven't got access to that, can you show me where?ely
Also what is the average weekly wage at that level?

The average weekly wage is less than £1k a week. They have an owner that has put some money in - around £3million - and they have signed 12 players this season. The conference forums see them as big spenders and claim that there are 3 or 4 players on around £1k to £1.5k a week.

He has been offered a one year contract with a view to one more. That could potentially get him £150k over the period. Also he may well think that the training regime is less and could play more games which could earn him a league contract down the line. There is no suggestion he was offered less at this club and he definately will be getting a lot less now than he was in his previous contract with us,
 

Grendel

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But his demands against what we believed he was worth.

We could have offered him 6 months at £2k pw (I imagine he'd have previously been on c£3k pw previously) = £52k

He'd have likely been injured and wouldn't have got a renewal.

And at Eastleigh he has a 12 month deal with the option of a 2nd year. Using purely arbitrary figure let's say they offered him £1.5k PW * ( so less than us) over 12 months (guaranteed) =£78k

In which scenario is the better deal for reda?

That's why it was ridiculous the notion that he was ever going to accept a pay as you play deal.

*I doubt he's getting paid a league one average salary at Eastleigh even if their owner is throwing money in.


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dongonzalos

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I suggest you go and have a read of the SCG thread and pay particular attention to what MV said about TM's views on Reda.
 

Grendel

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I suggest you go and have a read of the SCG thread and pay particular attention to what MV said about TM's views on Reda.

We didn't offer him a contract and there is zero evidence that Eastleigh have met the demands he tried to place on the club - other than probably the contract length.

Stupot said the same and I have greater regard for his views than yours
 

dongonzalos

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We didn't offer him a contract and there is zero evidence that Eastleigh have met the demands he tried to place on the club - other than probably the contract length.

Stupot said the same and I have greater regard for his views than yours

Have a regard for MV's views he knows a little bit more than you.
He said words to the effect of TM wants Reda but his wage demands and contract length expectations are too much.
 

Martin180

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Give it up Don ! Was stated throughout the summer that we were never anywhere close to agreeing to the terms the player wanted
 

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