Ireland Women (4 Viewers)

[Sick Boy]

Haha one of my cousins just messaged me to say it’s at number 1.

 

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[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

So basically as per usual the British media have blew it out of proportion.

 

[David O'Day]

So basically as per usual the British media have blew it out of proportion.

Pretty much, it wasn't the most sensible of choices but the Liverpool fans sang worse at Rangers last night

 

[David O'Day]

Here's Declan Rice saying the same thing on twitter



to the modern generation it doesn't show support of physical force republicanism, it'spretty much the same as erin go bragh to the kids these days

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So in your view, these girls singing this song was more a deliberate and outward celebration of Irish radicalism and IRA terrorist tactics with roots in the Jacobite rebellion? Rather than just girls singing rowdy Irish songs in a purely ignorant fashion?

GSTK used to have an anti Jacobite lyric during the rebellion.

Singing up the RA is poor taste and yeah I think shows a certain ignorance

 

[Sick Boy]

GSTK used to have an anti Jacobite lyric during the rebellion.

Singing up the RA is poor taste and yeah I think shows a certain ignorance

Have you spent much time over in Ireland?

 

[David O'Day]

Have you spent much time over in Ireland?

I doubt it

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Have you spent much time over in Ireland?

Nope but I have the ancestry, not as much as some here granted.

 

[Liquid Gold]

The song initially makes me uncomfortable but idk the connotations have changed then fair enough.

I think the world has had enough about English people's opinions on Ireland.

 

[fernandopartridge]

GSTK used to have an anti Jacobite lyric during the rebellion.

Singing up the RA is poor taste and yeah I think shows a certain ignorance

What are you on about? The troubles are as distant for many people now as the irish war of independence

 

[Nick]

Is it OK to sing IRA songs because it happened a few years ago but not OK to have historical statues up of a slave trader from hundreds of years ago?

They are all out of tune anyway.

 

[rob9872]

Pretty much, it wasn't the most sensible of choices but the Liverpool fans sang worse at Rangers last night

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What are you on about? The troubles are as distant for many people now as the irish war of independence

Do you agree it’s at least in poor taste?

 

[Flying Fokker]

We have our fair share of Scottish football fans on here interested in Sunday League who'll get all outraged yet would happily join in singing about being up to their knees in people's blood.

I know not what you mean…Seriously alien to me as I don’t carry the burden of religion, oppression and history. Other than Being a man in a woman’s world!

 

[Nick]

 

[fernandopartridge]

Do you agree it’s at least in poor taste?

It's got fuck all to do with me as a British person living in the UK to be quite honest with you

 

[SBT]

Is it OK to sing IRA songs because it happened a few years ago but not OK to have historical statues up of a slave trader from hundreds of years ago?

If a song or a statue is meant to pay tribute to an evil person from the past then it’s bullshit. Is that what you think this dressing room celebration was all about?

 

[Nick]

If a song or a statue is meant to pay tribute to an evil person from the past then it’s bullshit. Is that what you think this dressing room celebration was all about?

Well if it's pro ira they weren't the nicest people.

 

[Sick Boy]

Well if it's pro ira they weren't the nicest people.

The country has gardens of remembrance for IRA members - the Queen even laid flowers at the one in Dublin.

 

[SBT]

Well if it's pro ira they weren't the nicest people.

You think the entire Irish women’s football team is pro-IRA? And that’s why they all sung that song and let it be filmed?

 

[chiefdave]

Wolfe Tones tune Celtic Symphony hits number one on Irish music charts following FAI video controversy

The Wolfe Tones track Celtic Symphony has re-entered Ireland’s music charts in the wake of controversy involving the Republic of Ireland’s women’s football team.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk

 

[Sick Boy]

Wolfe Tones tune Celtic Symphony hits number one on Irish music charts following FAI video controversy

The Wolfe Tones track Celtic Symphony has re-entered Ireland’s music charts in the wake of controversy involving the Republic of Ireland’s women’s football team.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk

"....here we go again...."

 

[robbiekeane]

When it originated there wasn't really any distinction between them. The entire organisation was hell bent on using whatever means necessary, including terrorism and murder, to achieve their aims.

So were the British crown.

for what it’s worth I don’t really see a big fuss here because I don’t think many people see it as a reference to a particular branch of the IRA, I think they just see it as an Irish patriotic chant.

I’m sure people will be equally outraged when people sing Rule Britannia at football games, and definitely have never sang it themselves

 

[robbiekeane]

"....here we go again...."

It’s a banger tbf

 

[David O'Day]

The song initially makes me uncomfortable but idk the connotations have changed then fair enough.

I think the world has had enough about English people's opinions on Ireland.

The country has gardens of remembrance for IRA members - the Queen even laid flowers at the one in Dublin.

Yep at Glasnevin, people need to understand the difference between the IRA of the war of independence and the PIRA of the troubles

 

[fernandopartridge]

The song will always remind me of my own stag do funnily enough, Celtic bopped Rangers about 5-1 and remember this being sung (here we go again)

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[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

This thread says a lot. Some pretty clear undercurrent of anti-British sentiment going on.

Regardless of your views of what went on years ago, it's embarrassing.

 

[robbiekeane]

This thread says a lot. Some pretty clear undercurrent of anti-British sentiment going on.

Regardless of your views of what went on years ago, it's embarrassing.

The backlash is embarrassing.

Ever sung Rule Britannia?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Regardless of your views of what went on years ago, it's embarrassing.

Agreed, the UK media reaction is indeed embarrassing

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[fernandopartridge]

I hope he's going to apologise for this, disgusted



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[duffer]

Irish heritage here too, and I've got to say that I really don't care for that song.

I'll be honest and say that I didn't know the full history of it, but then neither will a lot of people, so they are going to find it distasteful.

My personal opinion is that if nothing else the demographics, politics, and geography, mean that Ireland will be reunited one day, and I'd very much like to see that.

However, in the meantime I wish that everyone accepted the shit that every side has done to each other in the past, and found a way to move past it.

Easier to say than do, I know, but that's what needs to happen. A certain amount of sensitivity to each other's feelings might help with things.

 

[rob9872]

Irish heritage here too, and I've got to say that I really don't care for that song.

I'll be honest and say that I didn't know the full history of it, but then neither will a lot of people, so they are going to find it distasteful.

My personal opinion is that if nothing else the demographics, politics, and geography, mean that Ireland will be reunited one day, and I'd very much like to see that.

However, in the meantime I wish that everyone accepted the shit that every side has done to each other in the past, and found a way to move past it.

Easier to say than do, I know, but that's what needs to happen. A certain amount of sensitivity to each other's feelings might help with things.

I think most folk would agree with that, but there will always be cunts on either side in the vocal minority who stir it up and shit like this doesn't help. Really in the same way all Muslims aren't bad people but the radicalised ones and their far right nutter counterparts will mean hatred there continues too. I guess we have to live with it bit doesn't mean we have to like it.

 

[duffer]

I think most folk would agree with that, but there will always be cunts on either side in the vocal minority who stir it up and shit like this doesn't help. Really in the same way all Muslims aren't bad people but the radicalised ones and their far right nutter counterparts will mean hatred there continues too. I guess we have to live with it bit doesn't mean we have to like it.

Fair enough, I take your point. I don't think those girls were singing it to deliberately offend anyone, especially now I know a bit more about the history behind it, but I can also see how it will.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The backlash is embarrassing.

Ever sung Rule Britannia?

Nope-also never sung GSTQ/GSTK.

 

[robbiekeane]

Nope-also never sung GSTQ/GSTK.

Yes I’m sure you’ve never done either in your whole life