SkyBlueRuffian

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Has turned down 2 decent contract offers from Coventry and has since received an offer from a Prem League club.

Noticed he wasn't in the U21 squad today??
 

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Its getting ridiculous. Players are leaving before they've achieved anything to go to 'bigger' clubs they haven't got a hope of playing for. These clubs are moaning that players aren't getting competitive games - stop signing so many so early!

Think we might need to look at a new form of transfer rules. For example in the NHL players under 25 are on entry level contracts which have a salary cap. Something similar, if set a level lower division teams could pay, would remove one incentive.
 

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i hope it's not the case, but, if the powers that be continue to offer paltry rewards, or sell promising players too soon then it is always likely to happen, just along the M69 is a club that has been busy building a future & they are an equivalently sized club / city,
the message to JS must surely be to recognise promising talent & reward it, & not to put faith in the types who have held the reins for the past 7 yrs
 

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It's getting ridiculous. Players are leaving before they've achieved anything to go to 'bigger' clubs they haven't got a hope of playing for.

This will always happen when demand exceeds supply and when the richer clubs can afford to hoard all the potential talent.
We will lose many players we might have retained if we had secured promotion, or at least the prospect of promotion.
 

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What it also needs is for the club that steal him to have to pay a big fee it might stop them doing it then.
 

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If this is true tm needs .a good f-- --ing give the youngsters a go rest the over 30,s let the kids use there pace and skills after amma where dead up front except for murphys once a month contrabution still not good enoough

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chiefdave

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This will always happen when demand exceeds supply and when the richer clubs can afford to hoard all the potential talent.
We will lose many players we might have retained if we had secured promotion, or at least the prospect of promotion.

But demand doesn't exceed supply. The rules got changed, basically via blackmail, to allow the PL to sweep up a huge number of players for next to nothing. So thats what they do, they sign everyone they can and then charge other clubs to take them on loan. If one of them comes good and is a potential first team player then great. If not they end up getting released.

Chelsea have over 30 players out on loan. How many players have worked through their system to become first team regulars? Can't think of anyone since John Terry.

When the PL transfer window closed at the start of the season there were 159 PL out on loan, that has no doubt risen since.

The system is broken, the only people it helps are the clubs at the top. It doesn't help the players development and it doesn't help England produce a winning team.
 

SkyBlueRuffian

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Was it from the same person who told you wasps wanted to boot us out and we still had an option on sixfields?

Er yeh. Wasps don't want us their that's for sure, their top man is Rugby through and through.

Anyway the Prem club have doubled the offer Coventry have offered in terms of wages for Sambou.
 

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players will always go for the most wages offered why wouldn't they,if its true we will get compensation. Just a point i wonder if having maddison round the place is a good thing at the moment.
 

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Its wrong and shouldn't be allowed, we'll probably get peanuts for him under EPPP.

It will also more likely hinder his career, although any PL team will send him out on loan, we'd look after him much better here and he'll get game time next season. He should look at Wilson and maddison progression over the last 2-3 seasons.
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Clubs should have a maximum squad size for all under age teams like the first team. Top clubs shouldn't be able to hoard all the talent, it's bad for competition and it's bad for the national team.
 

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Has turned down 2 decent contract offers from Coventry and has since received an offer from a Prem League club.

Noticed he wasn't in the U21 squad today??

If true I had good info from the chap who works for the school football schemes that Man City had already pointed out someone in the academy and it was almost a done deal.
So with Sisu in charge it will be £60 and a million if he scores the winning goal in a world cup final.
 

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I really think there should be a number put on development teams. Big clubs cannot just stockpile kids with potential.
Depending what he does and if he goes he's being poorly advised.
 

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i hope it's not the case, but, if the powers that be continue to offer paltry rewards, or sell promising players too soon then it is always likely to happen, just along the M69 is a club that has been busy building a future & they are an equivalently sized club / city,
the message to JS must surely be to recognise promising talent & reward it, & not to put faith in the types who have held the reins for the past 7 yrs

Blame the powers that be, he's been offerered two contracts you balloon. That's if the story is true.
 

Grendel

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If true I had good info from the chap who works for the school football schemes that Man City had already pointed out someone in the academy and it was almost a done deal.
So with Sisu in charge it will be £60 and a million if he scores the winning goal in a world cup final.

We can't negotiate a fee so what's your last statement mean?
 

Grendel

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i hope it's not the case, but, if the powers that be continue to offer paltry rewards, or sell promising players too soon then it is always likely to happen, just along the M69 is a club that has been busy building a future & they are an equivalently sized club / city,
the message to JS must surely be to recognise promising talent & reward it, & not to put faith in the types who have held the reins for the past 7 yrs

What do you suggest - offer the same as a premier league club for an untried player?

I guess you wanted to keep bigiamarana and match newcastles wages when they came in for him.

Clueless.
 

steve82

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A training compensation fee would be agreed for his development as he's under 24 I think. Likely a tribunal
 

steve82

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I think it' might be a fixed amount now, a formula based on how many years they've been at the club and how many appearances they've made

Looks that way, the EPPP (elite player performance plan) seems to have a compensation structure, as you say calculated by time spent and at what level of academy.
 

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They can have him for a tribunal fee if it is Man City he will never make it - they do not give youth much of a chance.
Whatsmore he is nowhere near good enough he will not cut it at premiership level.

Cannot blame the lad for being short sighted and chasing the wages mind - it is a short career.
 

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The problem could be you may have to wait a while for the money as I think Burnley haven't had the Ings money from last summer yet. We will get very little for him and does make you wonder if all the fuss about the academy is earth it as get a good one and somebody pinches him.
 

SkyBlueRuffian

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They can have him for a tribunal fee if it is Man City he will never make it - they do not give youth much of a chance.
Whatsmore he is nowhere near good enough he will not cut it at premiership level.

Cannot blame the lad for being short sighted and chasing the wages mind - it is a short career.

Merseyside team, not Liverpool.
 

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i hope it's not the case, but, if the powers that be continue to offer paltry rewards, or sell promising players too soon then it is always likely to happen, just along the M69 is a club that has been busy building a future & they are an equivalently sized club / city,
the message to JS must surely be to recognise promising talent & reward it, & not to put faith in the types who have held the reins for the past 7 yrs

There is no indication that the contract offers have been 'paltry'. The majority of players in his position would want to join a PL club.

Believe it or not but most footballers don't have a burning desire to play for Coventry City.
 

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