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Skybluefaz

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Can't agree with the Morrison opinion HH, I thought his mentallity was to work his socks off tbh, just the body/age let him down near the end for us.
Stern John was extremely skillful and working back, closing down really wasn't his game.
Similar views, Morrison always worked hard but was lacking in quality in the end.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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Both scored goals for us though.
But yeah 'lazy' (lacked enthusiasm) Wonder what that means.

I suppose at the top level you get both - (Suarez), but as you drop down a level or two, players will have a bit of one (finishing ability) or bit of the other (high work rate), but rarely both qualities (otherwise they play at the very top)
 

Great_Expectations

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I'd welcome the signing.

He might be older and potentially lacking some fitness, but he's experienced and an actual target man! Maybe we won't lose possession from our own throw/goal kick anymore!

Him and Yakubu will also give the players a boost, both from an experience and status perspective.

Rotation of him and Yak alongside Beavon is actually quite exciting.
 

letsallsingtogether

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Leave it out. I'm trying to suggest people are quick to say black players are lazy.
Most players are lazy, you only have to run past some and they are having a lay down.:)
Don't even do 20 hours a week work. Play for 90 get 20 minutes tea break and their fucked.;)
 

letsallsingtogether

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Some of our best players were black Cyril, Dion, Gary Thomson, Dave Bennett, Lloyd, callum. Just to name a few of my all time favourites.
 

skybluedan

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Wonder who the three players with pl experience is , who's out there with no club at the mo?
 

Gint11

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Stern John was technically very good, instinct and finish but he was definitely lazy! Now imagine Stern John technicals with Mifsuds energy and pace!


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wingy

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Stern John was technically very good, instinct and finish but he was definitely lazy! Now imagine Stern John technicals with Mifsuds energy and pace!


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I think it was not the case.
Maybe that he played in the era where a transition from being a Striker (specialist position) allied with fixed formations, before evolving to become a headless chicken who's failed if they haven't covered 9 kilometres per match.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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Leave it out. I'm trying to suggest people are quick to say black players are lazy.

Sorry Hill, mate - hadn't read all the posts, so that bit swerved me (easily done!). Thought it was laziness relating to two particular players (colour hadn't crossed my mind).
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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Stern John was technically very good, instinct and finish but he was definitely lazy! Now imagine Stern John technicals with Mifsuds energy and pace!


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Trying to keep the image out of my head o_O
 

Gint11

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I think it was not the case.
Maybe that he played in the era where a transition from being a Striker (specialist position) allied with fixed formations, before evolving to become a headless chicken who's failed if they haven't covered 9 kilometres per match.

Disagree completely. Rigid 4-4-2 formations back in the day still needed strikers to move, create space behind and for gaps between midfield/ forward line...Dwight Yorke for example was incredible at it

There is a difference between being a 'busy' striker using movement effectively and someone running 9KM.

For instance Dion Dublin, never ran miles and miles but never was or looked lazy. John was a match winner but I often became frustrated at his work rate.



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Gazolba

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Talks:
CC: What can you pay me?
CCFC: Nothing.
CC: Goodbye.
 

Astute

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Disagree completely. Rigid 4-4-2 formations back in the day still needed strikers to move, create space behind and for gaps between midfield/ forward line...Dwight Yorke for example was incredible at it

There is a difference between being a 'busy' striker using movement effectively and someone running 9KM.

For instance Dion Dublin, never ran miles and miles but never was or looked lazy. John was a match winner but I often became frustrated at his work rate.



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Is that the same Dublin I used to watch? Defending one second and scoring a goal up the other half the next.
 

Captain Dart

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Stern John was technically very good, instinct and finish but he was definitely lazy! Now imagine Stern John technicals with Mifsuds energy and pace!
We signed him once, think his name was Robbie Keane?
 

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