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Has died. What an awful year for celeb deaths :(

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RIP Carrie :(
 

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Jesus it never ends. Since Christmas Eve: Parfitt, Michael, Smith, Adams and now Fisher. 2016 has been shit in so many ways for me, both personally and more widely...from Brexit to Trump and Bowie, etc. Roll on 2017.
 

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To be honest I have been expecting this news since her heart attack the other day. It seems 2016 has decided to go out with a bang, RIP
 

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To be honest I have been expecting this news since her heart attack the other day. It seems 2016 has decided to go out with a bang, RIP
Yeah, me too. Wondered when she had the heart attack whether she would survive or not.

Not a Star Wars fan, but it still feels like an important loss.
 

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The author of watership down has died as well, hated that film.

So sad about Carrie Fisher
 

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The author of watership down has died as well, hated that film.

So sad about Carrie Fisher
I quite enjoyed the book be fair - like Orwell's Animal Farm, and other writers, he's having a stab at capitalists/lefties/commies/homophobes (delete as appropriate).

Yes very sad news about Carrie, she certainly had some personal problems over the years, guess fame and fortune doesn't always get you health and happiness. RIP, her Leia charactor helped establish strong female movie roles.
 

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I quite enjoyed the book be fair - like Orwell's Animal Farm, and other writers, he's having a stab at capitalists/lefties/commies/homophobes (delete as appropriate).

Yes very sad news about Carrie, she certainly had some personal problems over the years, guess fame and fortune doesn't always get you health and happiness. RIP, her Leia charactor helped establish strong female movie roles.


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Are celebrities worth more than ordinary people? If you read the local obituaries, you'll find lots of people with amazing stories to tell that no-one has ever heard of.
I was thinking the same thing, but came to the conclusion that you generally have more of a view on those that touched you in some way. If I grieved/thought about everyone that passed on I'd be a basket case.
 

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I was thinking the same thing, but came to the conclusion that you generally have more of a view on those that touched you in some way. If I grieved/thought about everyone that passed on I'd be a basket case.
Really good point
 

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Are celebrities worth more than ordinary people? If you read the local obituaries, you'll find lots of people with amazing stories to tell that no-one has ever heard of.
Well, maybe not in many cases, but their deaths affect an awful lot more people. People can be immensely touched by the contribution of work left by an artist, or actor, or writer and their works and songs and performances are left behind to be enjoyed forever.

Ordinary people's lives are obviously more important to the group of people that have been affected by them. With a famous person that is obviously just a greater influence upon more people.

If you look at the volume of work say John Lennon left behind, or David Bowie, or Alfred Hitchcock, or Dickens, or Shakespeare, or Fleming, or Newton, or Agatha Christie, Jane Austen, the Brontë's etc., their works have been enjoyed and discoveries benefitted people across the world for an age and for future generations to come.

It is just about degrees.
 

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But when you view an actor or actress, you aren't really seeing the real person. Many people are charming on the screen but nasty off it. Yes, I liked Carrie Fisher in the Star Wars movies, but she destroyed herself with drugs and drink. Many unknown people have led far more valuable lives than celebrities. But I get the points made by the people above.

I wonder how many of the famous deaths will be drink or drug related.

Of course anybody dying is sad, but I do find it hard to actually feel emotional about effectively somebody I don't know personally dying.
 

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Debbie Reynolds now had a stroke. :(

She of course is the mother of Carrie Fisher and star of Singin in the Rain.
 

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Rushed to hospital with a stroke the day after Carrie Fisher's death.

Interesting to note that Carrie Fisher's breakout performance was at the age of 19 in Star Wars and Debbie Reynolds, again at the age of 19 in Singin in the Rain.
 

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Very sad.

Just heard a recent interview with her and she seemed such a lovely person. Saying she had three very bad marriages where the men treated her very poorly, but that she was still a happy person and forgave them.

Very talented actress and singer. :(
 

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Debbie Reynolds just kicked the bucket...

Carrie Fisher's mum Debbie Reynolds dies, aged 84
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I wonder how many of the famous deaths will be drink or drug related.

Of course anybody dying is sad, but I do find it hard to actually feel emotional about effectively somebody I don't know personally dying.

Yes I agree never bothers me in the slightest unless it's a family or friend
 

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Yes I agree never bothers me in the slightest unless it's a family or friend
You never had a 'hero' die then that has affected you? A Martin Luther King, or a Ghandi, or and Elvis, or a Bowie, or Lennon?

I cried my eyes out when John Lennon died and did so too when Groucho Marx died and Cary Grant and shed a tear for Bowie and Gene Wilder.

Has there been no-one who has created a great body of work you have admired that and that you have shed a tear for?
 
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I don't think you have to personally know someone to mourn them. If you're sending out 'RIP their family will be in my thoughts' tweets every time anyone famous dies it's a bit disingenuous (plus your fingers would be fucking knackered from all the tweets this year) but with Carrie Fisher for instance people grew up with Star Wars and she also represented a woman who was more than a damsel in distress type, which certainly inspired a lot of current actors by the reaction.

It's certainly a different kind of grief but a valid one all the same.
 
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I don't think you have to personally know someone to mourn them. If you're sending out 'RIP their family will be in my thoughts' tweets every time anyone famous dies it's a bit disingenuous (plus your fingers would be fucking knackered from all the tweets this year) but with Carrie Fisher for instance people grew up with Star Wars and she also represented a woman who was more than a damsel in distress type, which certainly inspired a lot of current actors by the reaction.

It's certainly a different kind of grief but a valid one all the same.
Well said.

Think I cried the most when John Lennon died. I had grown up with his music and the Beatles and you just knew that was the end to his contribution to music and he was gone forever.
 

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