England v Ireland (1 Viewer)

[covmark]

We got to a world cup semi final the other year for the first time in 28 years (second time ever) and the players completely flapped it

So what you're saying is, because we were beaten in the semis, the players are wankers?
When we beat Colombia on penalties did it look like it meant nothing to the players?

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[Skyblueweeman]

Although I agree with your sentiment (and reaction) I am just wondering who you class as the overpaid proms-donna’s in the England side nowadays?

Fair comment. More of a generalised statement to the England teams over recent years. A few exceptions in the current team. The work Rashford does for example should be highly commended.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Baffled by the fact an Irish player can test positive for Covid, but apparently none of the other players were close to him, so nobody else has to isolate.

That either means he had a shocker, or was sensational!

 

[Adge]

I washed my hands of the England National team after the Iceland debacle at the Euros. How anybody puts prima donnas of the highest order before their club football is beyond me.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

I washed my hands of the England National team after the Iceland debacle at the Euros. How anybody puts prima donnas of the highest order before their club football is beyond me.

You no longer support England because they lost to Iceland?

 

[Tommo1993]

I washed my hands of the England National team after the Iceland debacle at the Euros. How anybody puts prima donnas of the highest order before their club football is beyond me.

Watched that game in Cuba. Surrounded by Welsh folk who were having a great tournament.

 

[Adge]

You no longer support England because they lost to Iceland?

Not really-just can’t muster the enthusiasm or take an interest anymore in headphone wearing prima donnas that don’t perform and are then too kean on sticking ttwo fingers up too the fans by showing off their cars and swimming pools the next day all over the internet.

 

[Otis]

Not really-just can’t muster the enthusiasm or take an interest anymore in headphone wearing prima donnas that don’t perform and are then too kean on sticking ttwo fingers up too the fans by showing off their cars and swimming pools the next day all over the internet.

Is that any different from club football?

 

[Otis]

Some decent players for the England U21's last night. Curtis Jones looks a very accomplished player and we apparently had to beat Germany off with a stick to secure, what is described a real talent, in Jamal Musiala (born in Germany, but came over to England when he was just 7)


I always look forwards to England games, even if half the time they turn out to be dirge.

 

[Adge]

Is that any different from club football?

Could be argued that’s the way it is/has gone especially at the top level/in the Prem etc.
Bit ironic also when supporting your club team and playing against an England international in the other team that he will be abused/called all the names under the sun, but then on Wednesday night when he is playing for England we then support him?
Just not for me anymore I’m afraid.

 

[Otis]

Could be argued that’s the way it is/has gone especially at the top level/in the Prem etc.
Bit ironic also when supporting your club team and playing against an England international in the other team that he will be abused/called all the names under the sun, but then on Wednesday night when he is playing for England we then support him?
Just not for me anymore I’m afraid.

I am different there you see. If City were playing Spurs, I wouldn't give Harry Kane any stick at all. Same with Beckham and Lampard and Ferdinand and Gazza etc. If they play for England I leave them alone, unless they are being a complete arse in the game against us.

 

[SBT]

So what you're saying is, because we were beaten in the semis, the players are wankers?
When we beat Colombia on penalties did it look like it meant nothing to the players?

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Had we somehow beaten Croatia and France in 2018, I’m sure England’s spoilt prima donnas would have mysteriously turned into our patriotic Brave Boys overnight, knighthoods all round.

 

[Otis]

Welcome to planet Earth.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Not really-just can’t muster the enthusiasm or take an interest anymore in headphone wearing prima donnas that don’t perform and are then too kean on sticking ttwo fingers up too the fans by showing off their cars and swimming pools the next day all over the internet.

What’s wrong with that? They’re allowed to have a life outside of football and show off what they’ve worked hard for like anyone else, they don’t exist to appease fans.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Although I agree with your sentiment (and reaction) I am just wondering who you class as the overpaid proms-donna’s in the England side nowadays?

Maguire for a start

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

What’s wrong with that? They’re allowed to have a life outside of football and show off what they’ve worked hard for like anyone else, they don’t exist to appease fans.

They earn millions a year for perhaps 20 hours of football a week and also retain full pay when injured

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

They earn millions a year for perhaps 20 hours of football a week and also retain full pay when injured

So what? Nobody has a go at actors for flaunting their wealth. They’re 20 something people, Christ if I had a fleet of super cars I’d have them all over social media.


They earn millions because it’s a position only few elite people can fill.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So what? Nobody has a go at actors for flaunting their wealth. They’re 20 something people, Christ if I had a fleet of super cars I’d have them all over social media.


They earn millions because it’s a position only few elite people can fill.

I think they're knobheads for doing that too. It isn't hard work, it's being very good at what is a hobby for hundreds of millions. Doesn't mean they deserve to be filthy fucking rich over those who do much harder tasks for a tiny fraction of the pay. Does Maguire really deserve £5 million+ a year before tax? We both know the answer.

 

[SBAndy]

I think they're knobheads for doing that too. It isn't hard work, it's being very good at what is a hobby for hundreds of millions. Doesn't mean they deserve to be filthy fucking rich over those who do much harder tasks for a tiny fraction of the pay. Does Maguire really deserve £5 million+ a year before tax? We both know the answer.

Market conditions and all that. Football is a wealthy industry, only makes sense that those at the top of the game are rewarded in kind.

No, I don’t think Maguire deserves that kind of pay.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Market conditions and all that. Football is a wealthy industry, only makes sense that those at the top of the game are rewarded in kind.

No, I don’t think Maguire deserves that kind of pay.

I know the economic reasons as to why they get that pay, it doesn't make it right when we all know there are far harder jobs that get paid much much less. If you're getting more in a week than the Prime Minister gets in a year, perhaps we should have a rethink.

 

[Liquid Gold]

I know the economic reasons as to why they get that pay, it doesn't make it right when we all know there are far harder jobs that get paid much much less. If you're getting more in a week than the Prime Minister gets in a year, perhaps we should have a rethink.

Anybody that actually gives a shit about football should be nowhere near a sky sports subscription.

 

[Tommo1993]

I know the economic reasons as to why they get that pay, it doesn't make it right when we all know there are far harder jobs that get paid much much less. If you're getting more in a week than the Prime Minister gets in a year, perhaps we should have a rethink.

So in a great turn of events if you suddenly became a top level pro footballer, you’d say keep your silly money and just pay me national living wage? Fair play to them, not their fault they get paid what they do!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So in a great turn of events if you suddenly became a top level pro footballer, you’d say keep your silly money and just pay me national living wage? Fair play to them, not their fault they get paid what they do!

Never blamed them for taking it I just questioned whether it was deserved when we both know there are much worse paid jobs that are also specialist and require much more effort. Think we both know they don’t really deserve it.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I know the economic reasons as to why they get that pay, it doesn't make it right when we all know there are far harder jobs that get paid much much less. If you're getting more in a week than the Prime Minister gets in a year, perhaps we should have a rethink.

Well it is a difficult job. There’s 6 billion people in the world and there’s only 500 spots in the premier league. Only the elite play there.

The prime minister is paid by the public purse, footballers are paid by private individuals. Footballers and their ability are the reason the Premier League earns 6/7 billion in tv rights.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well it is a difficult job. There’s 6 billion people in the world and there’s only 500 spots in the premier league. Only the elite play there.

The prime minister is paid by the public purse, footballers are paid by private individuals. Footballers and their ability are the reason the Premier League earns 6/7 billion in tv rights.

The Prime Minister runs the country, there's only 1 spot in No. 10. Footballers kick a ball around for people's entertainment for a couple of hours a week. There isn't really a moral justification for why the former should earn less in a year than the latter does in a week.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

The Prime Minister runs the country, there's only 1 spot in No. 10. Footballers kick a ball around for people's entertainment for a couple of hours a week. There isn't really a moral justification for why the former should earn less in a year than the latter does in a week.

Entertainment is a billion pound industry - I’d say the workers deserve a fair cut of that income.

The gravity of the task is neither here or there, Nobody pays £100 per month to watch Boris hash up the country.

You say the prime minister is one spot - the fact is he’s just a figure head, there’s hundreds behind him that make the decisions, not just him

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Entertainment is a billion pound industry - I’d say the workers deserve a fair cut of that income.

The gravity of the task is neither here or there, Nobody pays £100 per month to watch Boris hash up the country.

You say the prime minister is one spot - the fact is he’s just a figure head, there’s hundreds behind him that make the decisions, not just him

I could pick any other number of jobs that require specialist input and don't get the pay or recognition they deserve. They still get the obscene wages even if injured for months on end for Christ's sake

 

[wingy]

Prima privileged Madonna's or someone who can take a tumour out of a child's brain and leave them intact .
I know where my money goes and it ain't to sky .

 

[Frostie]

Entertainment is a billion pound industry - I’d say the workers deserve a fair cut of that income.

The gravity of the task is neither here or there, Nobody pays £100 per month to watch Boris hash up the country.

You say the prime minister is one spot - the fact is he’s just a figure head, there’s hundreds behind him that make the decisions, not just him

Not to mention the amount footballers pay in tax which actually helps run the country, the NHS etc. Average Premier League salary is what £60k p/w? They're all paying 40% tax on that

Meanwhile, on the government theme, you have the likes of Jacob Rees-Mogg whose companies have made over £100m profit in the last 5 years... Guess how much corporation tax he paid? Zip, zilch, nada.

 

[wingy]

Grow up .
They aren't worth the vast wealth they're accumuling via the cartel which sequestrates your monthly fees to their clubs , Jesus even then it leaves the club's on the verge of bankruptcy.
Barr that it's fucking immoral to have so much .

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Grow up .
They aren't worth the vast wealth they're accumuling via the cartel which sequestrates your monthly fees to their clubs , Jesus even then it leaves the club's on the verge of bankruptcy.
Barr that it's fucking immoral to have so much .

Nobody's even saying they shouldn't be well paid just perhaps not multi millionaires after one season

 

[clint van damme]

I think they're knobheads for doing that too. It isn't hard work, it's being very good at what is a hobby for hundreds of millions. Doesn't mean they deserve to be filthy fucking rich over those who do much harder tasks for a tiny fraction of the pay. Does Maguire really deserve £5 million+ a year before tax? We both know the answer.

Much harder tasks? Like what?
Nearly every kid in the world plays football so to come through and establish yourself at an elite level (or even league 1 or 2) is.pretty fucking hard if you ask me.

Yes, teachers and nurses and bin men all deserve more but I could do all of them jobs, I couldn't do what Harry Kane does.

And as someone pointed out, you don't benidct Cumberbatch or Eddie Redmayne getting shit for the obscene amounts they earn. Is it just the working class who shouldn't be allowed to coin it in?

 

[clint van damme]

Grow up .
They aren't worth the vast wealth they're accumuling via the cartel which sequestrates your monthly fees to their clubs , Jesus even then it leaves the club's on the verge of bankruptcy.
Barr that it's fucking immoral to have so much .

But if it's immoral to have beyond x amount of wealth, (Not something I neccessarily agree with), then that has to aimed at all sectors.

Personally I think it's not so much the wealth but how's it's obtained and how it's hung onto.

In that scenario there are far more immoral people of wealth in the world than footballers.

 

[Skybluefaz]

The Prime Minister runs the country, there's only 1 spot in No. 10. Footballers kick a ball around for people's entertainment for a couple of hours a week. There isn't really a moral justification for why the former should earn less in a year than the latter does in a week.

ShArE iF yOu ThInK SoLdIErS ShOuLd bE pAyEd FoOtBaLlErS WaGeS!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

ShArE iF yOu ThInK SoLdIErS ShOuLd bE pAyEd FoOtBaLlErS WaGeS!

Moronic