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Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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I have warmed to him
Houchens Head
Fairly well known member from Malvern
I don't like olives or anchovies but I don't feel the need to start a thread about it :thinking about:
simple_simon
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New to this.
skybluebeduff
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Could the thread Title be changed to CCFC? Thoughts?
Sorry but people come on here to read about CCFC not someone who needs attention, that's what facebooks for, close thread admin wtf has this got to do with CCFC?????
Sorry but people come on here to read about CCFC not someone who needs attention, that's what facebooks for, close thread admin wtf has this got to do with CCFC?????
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Dont you miss them though
williesdonkeykick
New Member
Nick, can't you limit the number of characters on his posts, he goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
kg82
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Of course he can write his opinion down, I've no problem with that and I'm sure most on here don't either. I think the problem is that he talks complete and utter bullcrap, and it's the same bullcrap in dozens of threads just said in different ways, aimed at people who are at least trying to do something whilst he presses a few keys to put down their efforts with no intention of getting his backside into gear to actually do anything worthwhile.
Greggs
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His original post was a badly written rage. He has since replaced it with the current masterpiece
williesdonkeykick
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His original post was a badly written rage. He has since replaced it with the current masterpiece
And the winner of this year's Nobel Peace Prize is................
Flying Fokker
Well-Known Member
You can always bar him yourself if you want. No problem from my viewpoint. I just don't read it all if I am not up for it!
Sick Boy
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What did he say?
Greggs
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My short term memory is currently inactive. Sorry. But it was something along the lines of "PGSM I HATE YOU...blah blah swear swear....i only post because you make me angry blah blah"
letsallsingtogether
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called him a tart
Skybluemilf
Member
He's Coventry through and through!
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
Well-Known Member
Told you he was mad
deanocity3
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i prefer a m/f 69
Nick
Administrator
I haven't deleted any, a user has deleted loads of their own though
win9nut
Well-Known Member
It's my ambition to get him to join the trust
In between his outbursts, he can make a good point. You've just got to strip out all the anti-SBTrust matter.
I also think if he joined the SBTrust he would make a fierce ally who could do alot of good to the cause!
There's madness in his method, but there's a method there.
In between his outbursts, he can make a good point. You've just got to strip out all the anti-SBTrust matter.
I also think if he joined the SBTrust he would make a fierce ally who could do alot of good to the cause!
There's madness in his method, but there's a method there.
Ok maybe my mistake
Hmm. If you believe the trust trolls I am the devil incarnate!
Comments have been deleted - My fault is it?
I think the admin can back me up on this I have NEVER reported a comment, even though I could have pretty good cause. Indeed the admin has had a go at me for NOT reporting!
So fair to say I cannot be accused of that little gem - Unlike the trust trolls who have admitted on this very forum the arbitrarily report EVERY comment - again I would suspect the admin would agree a truck load of comments has been complained against!
Also I found out tonight that John Fletcher has stated that steve.b50 is not a member of the Trust's board. This is odd, as in an email to me he not only doesn't deny that steve.b50 is a member of the board, but has said he has been nothing but respectful!
Interesting that - especially when I received a PM with the subject - You are a real prat!
Is that what John Fletcher considers as being "Certainly Steve has been particularly polite and restrained"!
Also
In response to reminding him that Jan Personally e-mailed me stating he/the trust would investigate any "verbal or physical" attacks from trust members:
"I wasn't privy to what Jan said, but if you are correct, then he was wrong if that's what he said." - This Despite me forwarding a copy of the PM!
So Ladies and gentlemen I would say that is pretty categorical from this group. Far from being open honest and transparent, at least Mr Fletcher is deceitful, disingenuous, and highlights what I have found as everything that is wrong with the trust as it stands right now.
Grendel calls me a coward - haven't seen him doing anything heroic for a while? ANd I am standing up for what I believe ! Don't see this troll ever doing that - other than attacking others for doing precisely what they themselves have done!
So whilst you may very well not agree with my stance and you may well not agree with my methods, the fact is the trust has proven me 100% correct at every turn!
Is asking for private meetings open and honest? They asked questions of Sisu (fair enough) but haven't answered mine yet!
Is it unreasonable to ask what they are going to do with the trust fund they claimed was for purchasing a part of the club? Would other members like to know?
Is it a good use of these funds to have professionally made banners, when plain sheets would have been cheaper and as effective?
It's all very noble to say they are open honest and transparent, but what evidence is there that they are following this philosophy?
I have asked them repeatedly to state their achievements - considering I have been asked on numerous occassions what have I done, then quid pro quo surely an open honest and transparent group should be more than happy to share this- why are they silent on this point? They are happy enough to go in the media to promote themselves!
At the end of the day they cannot state their accomplishments because there aren't any!
A widely publicised protest - 3 of them, and still the combined total is under 100! FFS you can get more than 100 for a flash mob!
They seem to be using the scientologist approach to promotion. Get a group of fanatics spreading all kinds of abuse constantly and eventually their target will give up - at least that seems their plan!
Just take a look at the abusive comments from grendel, LAST, and the other comedian Broken. Have they ever backed up any of their attacks with evidence? I always back up my accusations! Perhaps this is why more and more people are backing away from this group.
All they do is cut and paste my comment and put some bilge that bears no relation to the comment they have responded to!
It's the arbitrary nature of their attacks that shows just how weak their defence is.
If they are genuine in their desire to talk, why would you put the subject heading "you are a real prat"?
It hardly sets up that if I met these people it would be respectful! They want to attack, but they realise these attacks look bad on the group, so take the ludicrous stance that their comments do not reflect the trust's views. And this is from a member of their board!
It's like those politicians who got caught with their noses in the trough. They aren't the parties normal operations, but they do reflect badly on their parties!
When you stand as part of an organisation anything you say or do will reflect on your group - that is how it works!
And when you have people like John Fletcher, spouting such nonsense claiming to not know who steve.b50 (basically trying to defend the trust from his outbursts) you really have to question why they have such a sinister and deceitful person as their chair.
Part of John's statement is:
"If fans can own 51% of every Bundesliga club, there’s no reason fans can’t do the same here"
Don't have a problem with that - IF they are prepared to pay for it. Problem is if this is the ultimate goal, why waste money on expensive single use banners, when sheets would do?
If you waste the fighting fund on this type of thing, there will be nothing left to fulfill your ambition!
There is simply no cohesive force, or plan for achieving their objectives. They soon realised no one in their group is capable of getting the funds needed (ironic when one of the board is a salesman for a living!) so this is why they are desperate for P4 to come in and give away 20% of the club for free!
This is why these people should be stopped. They are incapable of running even their own unworthy group, so how on earth can they be expected to bepart of running the club?
Hate to say it but the people who make money generally are the ones who are good at making money! Indeed were it not for us pesky supporters and the belligerence of ACL/ council helping, then sisu would already own the ricoh at a knocked down price!
Their is still hope, but the clique have proven utterly toothless. All they do now is self promote - which is not what they claim to be about, and is definitely not what is needed!
One voice is fine, but ultimately it is just one voice. And if that voice is the likes of John Fletcher - NO THANKS!!!
If you have an idea to save the club do it! Don't ask the clique to do it for you - they cannot possibly have the same passion for your idea as you do!
Many voices are harder to ignore than just one! Write to the FA, the FL, the government. Make as much noise as possible.
Think about it, if they receive one letter, it is easier to ignore than 100!
Cut the clique out of the equation. They have done nothing of use.
That is of course if you want to!
Comments have been deleted - My fault is it?
I think the admin can back me up on this I have NEVER reported a comment, even though I could have pretty good cause. Indeed the admin has had a go at me for NOT reporting!
So fair to say I cannot be accused of that little gem - Unlike the trust trolls who have admitted on this very forum the arbitrarily report EVERY comment - again I would suspect the admin would agree a truck load of comments has been complained against!
Also I found out tonight that John Fletcher has stated that steve.b50 is not a member of the Trust's board. This is odd, as in an email to me he not only doesn't deny that steve.b50 is a member of the board, but has said he has been nothing but respectful!
Interesting that - especially when I received a PM with the subject - You are a real prat!
Is that what John Fletcher considers as being "Certainly Steve has been particularly polite and restrained"!
Also
In response to reminding him that Jan Personally e-mailed me stating he/the trust would investigate any "verbal or physical" attacks from trust members:
"I wasn't privy to what Jan said, but if you are correct, then he was wrong if that's what he said." - This Despite me forwarding a copy of the PM!
So Ladies and gentlemen I would say that is pretty categorical from this group. Far from being open honest and transparent, at least Mr Fletcher is deceitful, disingenuous, and highlights what I have found as everything that is wrong with the trust as it stands right now.
Grendel calls me a coward - haven't seen him doing anything heroic for a while? ANd I am standing up for what I believe ! Don't see this troll ever doing that - other than attacking others for doing precisely what they themselves have done!
So whilst you may very well not agree with my stance and you may well not agree with my methods, the fact is the trust has proven me 100% correct at every turn!
Is asking for private meetings open and honest? They asked questions of Sisu (fair enough) but haven't answered mine yet!
Is it unreasonable to ask what they are going to do with the trust fund they claimed was for purchasing a part of the club? Would other members like to know?
Is it a good use of these funds to have professionally made banners, when plain sheets would have been cheaper and as effective?
It's all very noble to say they are open honest and transparent, but what evidence is there that they are following this philosophy?
I have asked them repeatedly to state their achievements - considering I have been asked on numerous occassions what have I done, then quid pro quo surely an open honest and transparent group should be more than happy to share this- why are they silent on this point? They are happy enough to go in the media to promote themselves!
At the end of the day they cannot state their accomplishments because there aren't any!
A widely publicised protest - 3 of them, and still the combined total is under 100! FFS you can get more than 100 for a flash mob!
They seem to be using the scientologist approach to promotion. Get a group of fanatics spreading all kinds of abuse constantly and eventually their target will give up - at least that seems their plan!
Just take a look at the abusive comments from grendel, LAST, and the other comedian Broken. Have they ever backed up any of their attacks with evidence? I always back up my accusations! Perhaps this is why more and more people are backing away from this group.
All they do is cut and paste my comment and put some bilge that bears no relation to the comment they have responded to!
It's the arbitrary nature of their attacks that shows just how weak their defence is.
If they are genuine in their desire to talk, why would you put the subject heading "you are a real prat"?
It hardly sets up that if I met these people it would be respectful! They want to attack, but they realise these attacks look bad on the group, so take the ludicrous stance that their comments do not reflect the trust's views. And this is from a member of their board!
It's like those politicians who got caught with their noses in the trough. They aren't the parties normal operations, but they do reflect badly on their parties!
When you stand as part of an organisation anything you say or do will reflect on your group - that is how it works!
And when you have people like John Fletcher, spouting such nonsense claiming to not know who steve.b50 (basically trying to defend the trust from his outbursts) you really have to question why they have such a sinister and deceitful person as their chair.
Part of John's statement is:
"If fans can own 51% of every Bundesliga club, there’s no reason fans can’t do the same here"
Don't have a problem with that - IF they are prepared to pay for it. Problem is if this is the ultimate goal, why waste money on expensive single use banners, when sheets would do?
If you waste the fighting fund on this type of thing, there will be nothing left to fulfill your ambition!
There is simply no cohesive force, or plan for achieving their objectives. They soon realised no one in their group is capable of getting the funds needed (ironic when one of the board is a salesman for a living!) so this is why they are desperate for P4 to come in and give away 20% of the club for free!
This is why these people should be stopped. They are incapable of running even their own unworthy group, so how on earth can they be expected to bepart of running the club?
Hate to say it but the people who make money generally are the ones who are good at making money! Indeed were it not for us pesky supporters and the belligerence of ACL/ council helping, then sisu would already own the ricoh at a knocked down price!
Their is still hope, but the clique have proven utterly toothless. All they do now is self promote - which is not what they claim to be about, and is definitely not what is needed!
One voice is fine, but ultimately it is just one voice. And if that voice is the likes of John Fletcher - NO THANKS!!!
If you have an idea to save the club do it! Don't ask the clique to do it for you - they cannot possibly have the same passion for your idea as you do!
Many voices are harder to ignore than just one! Write to the FA, the FL, the government. Make as much noise as possible.
Think about it, if they receive one letter, it is easier to ignore than 100!
Cut the clique out of the equation. They have done nothing of use.
That is of course if you want to!
Senior Vick from Alicante
Well-Known Member
Not bitter then?
Astute
Well-Known Member
I'm glad you kept that short n sweet. Or is it I forgot most of it by the time I got to the end?
mark82
Moderator
Answer this then psgm1 - why do your views always have to be extreme and against popular opinion? I'm all for everyone having their own opinions but you seem to go to the extreme opposite of what the majority think. That strikes me as odd, you can't be in the minority thinking on all subjects.
I've never seen you post other than to slate the trust / Robins / whoever your flavour of the month is. Do you have any moderate opinions or are they all extreme?
I've never seen you post other than to slate the trust / Robins / whoever your flavour of the month is. Do you have any moderate opinions or are they all extreme?
What an archane ill-conceived question!
Just because the majority think something does not mean they are right!
The majority thought disease was cholera was caused by miasma in the 19th century! They were wrong!
The majority of the Romans thought gods ruled the earth. They were wrong
The majority of thans thought Andy Thorn was a good manager when I was saying he was the worst in the history of the club! Again they were wrong!
The majority thought it was OK to burn witches in the 16th century - You saying this was right?
I will say it again - Just because the majority of people at a certain point in time believe aa certain thing is true has never does not and never will mean that automatically they are right!
I use an idiosyncratic thing called evidence. I watched the teams play, and could see problems.
By your illogical logic, then all you need to do is to get 7,000 saying the group are doing well, and ipso facto - it is true!
The only real way to discern a position is by the use of imperical information.
The clique had not done anything relevant or made a discernable difference to the club.
The mob just saying thay have does not make it so! Only evidence of them making a positive contribution to the club will suffice! But there is more evidence of their being Big foot than there is the clique getting anything altered at the club!
This is why I am so certain of my position. Because I research before I post! All the trolls do is automatically post a snide ill-conceived post - regardlesss of content!
That is not a basis for a rational argument now is it?
And quite frankly it shows a troubling lack of understanding of how things work if you think otherwise!
Of course if you can prove miasma and not parasites from faeces in the water, or you can prove that zeus & co exist,m then maybe the masses were right after all!
Just because the majority think something does not mean they are right!
The majority thought disease was cholera was caused by miasma in the 19th century! They were wrong!
The majority of the Romans thought gods ruled the earth. They were wrong
The majority of thans thought Andy Thorn was a good manager when I was saying he was the worst in the history of the club! Again they were wrong!
The majority thought it was OK to burn witches in the 16th century - You saying this was right?
I will say it again - Just because the majority of people at a certain point in time believe aa certain thing is true has never does not and never will mean that automatically they are right!
I use an idiosyncratic thing called evidence. I watched the teams play, and could see problems.
By your illogical logic, then all you need to do is to get 7,000 saying the group are doing well, and ipso facto - it is true!
The only real way to discern a position is by the use of imperical information.
The clique had not done anything relevant or made a discernable difference to the club.
The mob just saying thay have does not make it so! Only evidence of them making a positive contribution to the club will suffice! But there is more evidence of their being Big foot than there is the clique getting anything altered at the club!
This is why I am so certain of my position. Because I research before I post! All the trolls do is automatically post a snide ill-conceived post - regardlesss of content!
That is not a basis for a rational argument now is it?
And quite frankly it shows a troubling lack of understanding of how things work if you think otherwise!
Of course if you can prove miasma and not parasites from faeces in the water, or you can prove that zeus & co exist,m then maybe the masses were right after all!
