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[Moff]

It's get boring answering the same question over and over because someone can't or doesn't read your answer.
LM was mentioned in the thread as getting their statement written by the council.
So this was a new one to add to the list of ridiculous conspiracies. Guardian, MPs, council, cet, development companies burying time capsules. Now a train company

Can you ask me this question again please in 5 minutes.....

Fuck me you still havent answered it. I honestly cant remember when MP's and the Gaurdian were mentioned and was genuinelly fucking interested as to how and when. I thought you could assist seeing as it was you that mentioned it, no one else.

Grow some balls and answer the question, and you are batting better than Grendel, although I genuinelly believe you cant answer the question.

 

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[dongonzalos]

Work for the council?

You are very defensive of them though, especially the way you go through and reply to every post individually to prove it...

You have in the past.
You are very defensive of most posts regarding SISU.
I would leave you to it. However when you pull others up suggesting they have agenda's, they are not interested in the football club. When they nearly do the same as you but from a different angle. Then what is the harm in balancing the arguement and highlighting when false allegations are made against the CET or LM. Ect.,,,

 

[Nick]

You have in the past.
You are very defensive of most posts regarding SISU.
I would leave you to it. However when you pull others up suggesting they have agenda's, they are not interested in the football club. When they nearly do the same as you but from a different angle. Then what is the harm in balancing the arguement and highlighting when false allegations are made against the CET or LM. Ect.,,,

Do you see me going through a thread a few hours old and replying to every post individually? It has never happened.

Can you show me a post being defensive of SISU?

 

[Moff]

Do you see me going through a thread a few hours old and replying to every post individually? It has never happened.

Can you show me a post being defensive of SISU?

Dont ask him a question, its his downfall.

 

[georgehudson]

reading between the lines uttered by Francis Thomas of London Midland, he is saying 'yes right well we'll do it for wasps but as far as CCFC are concerned, we'll rub your noses in it'
what an utter oxygen stealer he is

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Will you lot give it a rest as I've said we could be getting the trains as well. Funny how the suggestion was put to the club by those wankersfrom the trust at last SCG meeting and now the club are talking to Wasps and LM.

 

[georgehudson]

anyway, if sisu were true to form they'd be taking london midland to court for loss of earnings

 

[MusicDating]

Looks like we could get it as well

Anywho, amidst the childish squabbling... BHSB, where did you hear this?

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Anywho, amidst the childish squabbling... BHSB, where did you hear this?

Cwr this morning

 

[MusicDating]

Cwr this morning

Ta. Personally, I'd get the train every time I went if it was available.

Would be interesting to get some numbers from users on here as to who else would (I don't know how to start a poll...).

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Ta. Personally, I'd get the train every time I went if it was available.

Would be interesting to get some numbers from users on here as to who else would (I don't know how to start a poll...).

Ask Nick to help you

 

[Nick]

Ta. Personally, I'd get the train every time I went if it was available.

Would be interesting to get some numbers from users on here as to who else would (I don't know how to start a poll...).

Sure, if you let me know the question and the options I can make one for you.

 

[MusicDating]

Ask Nick to help you

I would, but seems he's already occupied elsewhere on this thread... Oh nearly forgot

 

[MusicDating]

Sure, if you let me know the question and the options I can make one for you.

Cool, thanks Nick. I guess something like 'How often in a season would you travel by train to Cov home games'? Never, 1-5, 5-15, 15+?
Isn't it more fun when threads don't all turn into arguments...

 

[Nick]

Done

http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/63353-Would-you-use-the-Ricoh-Station

 

[dongonzalos]

Dodging the question I see, something which you seem so enamoured to point out to other posters when they do it. So when were MP's and the Guardian mentioned?

Its easy to make your point when you elaborate it to suit your arguement.

I would have thought BA would push for an independent investigation - after all he was very loud when he called for openness during the clubs administration.

The local labour party are closing ranks to protect Ann Lucas.

The guff about the fact that Lucas and Mutton don't get on but voted the same way is contemptuous.

 

[dongonzalos]

Will reply re the guardian when I get chance Moff.

BA is Ainsworth
The suggestion is he will kick up a fuss if it's SISU related not council related

 

[Moff]

Will reply re the guardian when I get chance Moff.

BA is Ainsworth
The suggestion is he will kick up a fuss if it's SISU related not council related

Thanks Dongo. I appreciate you taking the time to answer.

I hope you now realise it was a genuine question, and I apologise it took some bickering* to get where we are now.

* (I sometimes could be a bit better with my choice of words)

 

[torchomatic]

Don't be stupid! Just the CT as was stated in the disciplinary hearing papers.

Jesus......
Council control LM, Wasps and the CET

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Looks like we could get it as well

I would hope so. We were originally told that the issue was the availability of rolling stock to provide the services, so it's nice they have now managed to find some. Might be easier for us to pay for the same privilege to LM if we had access to all the money we generate, but that is another kettle of fish. Our crowds are comparable to Wasps and the demand would be high.

 

[Captain Dart]

I would hope so. We were originally told that the issue was the availability of rolling stock to provide the services, so it's nice they have now managed to find some. Might be easier for us to pay for the same privilege to LM if we had access to all the money we generate, but that is another kettle of fish. Our crowds are comparable to Wasps and the demand would be high.

You are being rather inaccurate, the CT said.. http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/video-first-trains-pull-coventry-10750990

There will also be no capacity to transport concert-goers - unless sponsors charter trains for major events.

So someone (Wasps/London Midland) chartered the rolling stock, i.e it is available but at a price.

The other issue regarding trains to CCFC is about who would use the service, if it is only local fans the demand would not be so high, you are asking people to change their behaviour which isn't guaranteed.,

However if there was a well supported London club visiting (like Arsenal/West Ham/Spurs) then maybe chartering trains makes sense, but it is a risk.

I think it is perfectly sensible for CCFC to let Wasps take the financial risk & run the experiment with the Choo Choos. If it works then maybe CCFC management can identify some likely fixtures to try the idea for themselves.

 

[torchomatic]

So are you. We're not "concert goers", are we?

You are being rather inaccurate, the CT said.. http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/video-first-trains-pull-coventry-10750990

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You are being rather inaccurate, the CT said.. http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/video-first-trains-pull-coventry-10750990

So someone (Wasps/London Midland) chartered the rolling stock, i.e it is available but at a price.

The other issue regarding trains to CCFC is about who would use the service, if it is only local fans the demand would not be so high, you are asking people to change their behaviour which isn't guaranteed.,

However if there was a well supported London club visiting (like Arsenal/West Ham/Spurs) then maybe chartering trains makes sense, but it is a risk.

I think it is perfectly sensible for CCFC to let Wasps take the financial risk & run the experiment with the Choo Choos. If it works then maybe CCFC management can identify some likely fixtures to try the idea for themselves.

I am not being inaccurate at all, I quoted London Midland from the article in summer 2015:

'A spokesman for the train operator told the Telegraph: “The issue is that the service is one single diesel carriage that has 75 seats. We have been clear about that from the start of the project.“At the moment there aren’t any more trains available in the country to run that service.'

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-fc-wasps-rfc-9920187

The position has now changed. I personally feel the demand from football fans would be high since it mitigates the issue of parking space and lengthy bus journeys in and out of town, I could be wrong. But this station should have been open and functioning from the moment the ground opened for business in 2005.

 

[dongonzalos]

Thanks Dongo. I appreciate you taking the time to answer.

I hope you now realise it was a genuine question, and I apologise it took some bickering* to get where we are now.

* (I sometimes could be a bit better with my choice of words)

Misunderstood the question mate
No worries, will look re the guardian when I get chance

 

[Captain Dart]

I am not being inaccurate at all, I quoted London Midland from the article in summer 2015:

'A spokesman for the train operator told the Telegraph: “The issue is that the service is one single diesel carriage that has 75 seats. We have been clear about that from the start of the project.“At the moment there aren’t any more trains available in the country to run that service.'

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-fc-wasps-rfc-9920187

The position has now changed. I personally feel the demand from football fans would be high since it mitigates the issue of parking space and lengthy bus journeys in and out of town, I could be wrong. But this station should have been open and functioning from the moment the ground opened for business in 2005.

They were talking about an hourly service on all matchdays in that article.

London Midland has also said there will be no expansion to the hourly service on matchdays.

That statement doesn't apply to extra chartered trains for special events, like these 2 events.

So are you. We're not "concert goers", are we?

Keep splitting those hairs and you'll get a medal for pedantry.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

They were talking about an hourly service on all matchdays in that article.

That statement doesn't apply to extra chartered trains for special events, like these 2 events.


Keep splitting those hairs and you'll get a medal for pedantry.

Right, but the jist of the statement at the time was that a matchday service was deemed uneconomical because they didn't have the rolling stock. Now for certain matchdays they have changed their position and means they must have found additional stock.

 

[chiefdave]

Right, but the jist of the statement at the time was that a matchday service was deemed uneconomical because they didn't have the rolling stock. Now for certain matchdays they have changed their position and means they must have found additional stock.

There was another article later where LM said they would need to charter to provide the extra capacity. The cost of the charter meant a return from Cov - Ricoh would be £17.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

There was another article later where LM said they would need to charter to provide the extra capacity. The cost of the charter meant a return from Cov - Ricoh would be £17.

The impression I got in the first instance was that there weren't enough trains available full stop. What grinds me a bit about the LM statement is that they claim to have 'listened to fans and stakeholders' wanting a service but then disregard the football club which is drawing similar numbers.

 

[chiefdave]

The impression I got in the first instance was that there weren't enough trains available full stop. What grinds me a bit about the LM statement is that they claim to have 'listened to fans and stakeholders' wanting a service but then disregard the football club which is drawing similar numbers.

Its pretty obvious Wasps are paying for this. Why they are trying to make it seem like they aren't is very strange. If both Wasps and LM had just come out and said it at worst there would have been complaints SISU weren't doing the same.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Its pretty obvious Wasps are paying for this. Why they are trying to make it seem like they aren't is very strange. If both Wasps and LM had just come out and said it at worst there would have been complaints SISU weren't doing the same.

Special trains are nothing new and since Wasps are all about freebies I am surprised they didn't conceive the idea sooner. We don't know the money involved either but it doesn't help that our available resources are quite small in comparison. Also hindered by being denied full access to the money we generate on a matchday.

 

[Captain Dart]

Right, but the jist of the statement at the time was that a matchday service was deemed uneconomical because they didn't have the rolling stock. Now for certain matchdays they have changed their position and means they must have found additional stock.

As I understand it Wasps/LM trains are taking a punt on running a service for a couple of 'big' matches & seeing how it goes.

If it is not popular one or both companies will lose money. Hopefully CCFC can get an idea of what the numbers were without taking that risk & take a position on doing it or not.

 

[fernandopartridge]

As I understand it Wasps/LM trains are taking a punt on running a service for a couple of 'big' matches & seeing how it goes.

If it is not popular one or both companies will lose money. Hopefully CCFC can get an idea of what the numbers were without taking that risk & take a position on doing it or not.

Suppose you could argue it's a sensible position for CCFC, why risk the investment in trialing a service when somebody else will do it for you.

 

[MusicDating]

There was another article later where LM said they would need to charter to provide the extra capacity. The cost of the charter meant a return from Cov - Ricoh would be £17.

This implies that Wasps are hoping to attract brand new fans with the service rather than change the habits of existing fans.

1000 extra train seats costing Wasps a train subsidy of about £15 each? Gamble of hoping to gain that back on new fans travelling and becoming regular visitors.

 

[Sick Boy]

I don't know, but you coming on and replying to every post in a weird posting style isn't helping.

Very much an agenda this evening.

He blatantly he has an agenda.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

As I understand it Wasps/LM trains are taking a punt on running a service for a couple of 'big' matches & seeing how it goes.

If it is not popular one or both companies will lose money. Hopefully CCFC can get an idea of what the numbers were without taking that risk & take a position on doing it or not.

Well CCFC could do a simple straw poll of fans to get an idea of the interest, but a good number would come over from Nuneaton and the south/central part of the city I imagine. Granted there is no way of knowing without actually giving it a try.