Ruben Lameiras told to add end product to his 'great ability' (1 Viewer)

rupert_bear

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Has to play in his right position then, he is not a winger, needs to be central in a David Silva type roll with a couple of enforcers either side of him. He ain't going to wo tackles but he can create and make space for himself to play, I would try him between Vincelot and Fleck
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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I don't get this to be honest.

For his flaws, end product isn't really one of them, in fact it's better than the current midfielders we've got in that aspect.

His vision and ability to pick a pass, or even thread a ball through tight spaces is one of his best qualities, you could even see that in the game against Rochdale.

We couldn't quite make the most of it, but you could see the intelligence he added which was relative to earlier in the season from the team. Armstrong got some service again.

Ruben needs to be given more game time. If this season is a write off then we've got nothing to lose anyway.
 

Nick

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A bit random, if he had been playing week in and week out then it could be judged.

Unless Mowbray thinks it is something that will fire him up for tomorrow night?
 

steve82

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I don't get this to be honest.

For his flaws, end product isn't really one of them, in fact it's better than the current midfielders we've got in that aspect.

His vision and ability to pick a pass, or even thread a ball through tight spaces is one of his best qualities, you could even see that in the game against Rochdale.

We couldn't quite make the most of it, but you could see the intelligence he added which was relative to earlier in the season from the team. Armstrong got some service again.

Ruben needs to be given more game time. If this season is a write off then we've got nothing to lose anyway.

Spot on this....
I see him being most effective in the no 10 role or more central position. His passing rage is quality
 

luwalla

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he hasnt been given any kind of chance... the only time he was playing, at the start of the season, he played in the middle and was threading some lovely balls through to armstrong!
 

stupot07

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A bit random, if he had been playing week in and week out then it could be judged.

Unless Mowbray thinks it is something that will fire him up for tomorrow night?
Completely agree Nick.

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Nick

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I think he is a different sort of player to Jones.

Jones looks to be a direct run at you type of player whereas Lameiras looks to turn a player, lookup and thread a pass through.
 

wingy

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I think he is a different sort of player to Jones.

Jones looks to be a direct run at you type of player whereas Lameiras looks to turn a player, lookup and thread a pass through.
Oh without doubt but the way he is currently utilised puts him up against Murphy and Jones vying for widespots, when ideally he needs to play ten or left which I think is his natural side.
Ideally he should be looking to oust Cole or Maddison for the No10 slot
 

Nick

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Cole seemed much better when he went back in the actual middle.

Where he could just stay around the centre circle and fire passes like fleck.
 

Otis

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Cole seemed much better when he went back in the actual middle.

Where he could just stay around the centre circle and fire passes like fleck.
Yep. I like Cole in the middle. Out on the left he seems wasted and I don't mean drunk!)
 

stevefloyd

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I just love his Messi..esque through balls, still like the guy and would like to be seeing him play more
 

Samo

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In my FIFA team he's playing Prem and Champions League footy at CAM and smashing them in! :)
 

Nick

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I agree there is work to be done. But at the same time wonder where the Ruben from early season has gone! Or is it the other players who aren't the same?


I have noticed sometimes nobody else seems to pickup on his passes, sometimes he will be expecting somebody to make a run onto it.
 

Hadji10

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Mowbray has stuck with Murphy who's end product his just as bad if not worse. Lamieras has played some fuckig brilliant passes this season. The one away at Milwall to Armstrong was genius. He's been very unlucky this season IMO. He's not one of Mowbrays favourites.
 

sw88

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Mowbray has stuck with Murphy who's end product his just as bad if not worse. Lamieras has played some fuckig brilliant passes this season. The one away at Milwall to Armstrong was genius. He's been very unlucky this season IMO. He's not one of Mowbrays favourites.

But Murphy has 10 (?) goals. Ruben hasn't, so his end product cant be that bad, surely? Not a bad return for a midfielder.

I do agree though the through ball V Millwall is proof that Ruben does have tremendous ability; that pass wasn't fluke.
 

Nick

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But Murphy has 10 (?) goals. Ruben hasn't, so his end product cant be that bad, surely? Not a bad return for a midfielder.

I do agree though the through ball V Millwall is proof that Ruben does have tremendous ability; that pass wasn't fluke.

He did one like it through a gap and picked out Armstrong I think it was the last home game he played in?

i think he is one of those who needs a run of games to get into it.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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But Murphy has 10 (?) goals. Ruben hasn't, so his end product cant be that bad, surely? Not a bad return for a midfielder.

I do agree though the through ball V Millwall is proof that Ruben does have tremendous ability; that pass wasn't fluke.

Murphy and Lameiras are completely different types of footballer I think.

All Murphy's goals have come from taking it himself, either a long ranger or a one on one type thing. Lameiras is more of a cog in a four part machine that looks to break teams down through passing and movement. This was our tactic earlier in the season and worked very well.

I agree with the favourite comment, Lameiras hasn't been out of form, he just hasn't had game time. If you take the 10 goals scored by the former, they are all concentrated into just a handful of games which summarises his season really, most of the rest there has been zero end product.

Rose and Lameiras should be blooded now ready for next season, as they could (and should) play a big part.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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A bit random, if he had been playing week in and week out then it could be judged.

Unless Mowbray thinks it is something that will fire him up for tomorrow night?

I'm guessing he's playing tomorrow night and TM's trying to encourage him to get a goal. A bit like how he told Martin he was poor to fire him up.

Either that or it's another scape goat from TM to try and justify to the fans why he hasn't been playing him.

My guess is that he'll be involved tomorrow night though. Hopefully that's the case anyway, I'd love to see more of him.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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Mogga like every manager has his favourites and then loses confindence in some.

I think Ruben was initially taken on in case we couldn't get some of the attacking loan players in. Then once more and more loans popped in he went off the radar.
 

Gazolba

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[h=2]Ruben Lameiras told to add end product to his 'great ability'[/h]

Did they specify the 'end product' they want? Also if he has 'great ability', why does he rarely play?
 

Grendel

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He's rubbish and next season will be his final professional contract.
 

mark_ccfc

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Oh without doubt but the way he is currently utilised puts him up against Murphy and Jones vying for widespots, when ideally he needs to play ten or left which I think is his natural side.
Ideally he should be looking to oust Cole or Maddison for the No10 slot
I thought early in the season that him and Madison linked up well when they played together? What positions were they playing then?
 
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LB87ccfc

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Lameries is a number 10, he always has been through his development and has had 0 opportunity at playing the role whilst here.

If you cast your memories back to Millwall away, tell me what part of the pitch Lameries was when he played arguably pass of the season to send Armstrong free? yes centre middle of the pitch in the number 10 position.

A young lad who has outstanding ability on the ball, but not the pace to be a winger, one on one technically sound, but lacks the final ball as he is not a winger.

Funny he does not play enough, he ripped Sheffield United apart and yet hardly seen since.
 

steve82

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Lamerias is a very good technical ball to feet player. Was originally brought in as a Maddison type player to give him competition I think
 

SkyBlueScottie

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"He's got a great work ethic and whilst we know he isn't the finished article, we see plenty of potential for him to progress with us and make an impact.


"Ruben can play central or on the wings so once again, we've got another player who can be a valuable option for us across the park.
 

ccfchoi87

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If I remember correctly, he played wide right against milwall. That's the position he scored in and cut inside on his left foot to feed through Armstrong
 
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