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dongonzalos

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Great developed as expected.
Just wish he had done that on loan elsewhere.
Mowbrays only weakness for me he doesn't value a GK
Hopefully now due to that mistake he will gain a great one for next season
 

Speedies_Chips

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Still has a bit to learn. Distribution especially when a counter attack could be gained needs a lot of work.

Would rather a more experienced man at in the goal for next season but there's no doubting RCC's is a talented kid

Disagree there. Most times when he has gathered the ball he is looking for someone to release it to or knock it upfield to, but there is never anyone available in space so he has to hang on to it.
 

skybluegod

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I love how people complain about a goalkeepers distribution, as if they should be able to ping a 60 yard pass within 4 seconds of catching the ball. I mean, yes passing is key, and goalkeepers can be good at it, but considering only 1/2 of our outfield players, can actually succeed passing the ball more than 10 yards, is it fair to judge a league one keeper on this? I think using that as one of his main weaknesses is scrap=ping the barrel?
 

Hobo

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A player who has really developed this year.
 

Nick

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He was always a good shot stopper, it was just his decision making which has improved.

for a goalkeeper his feet are great as well.
 

Grendel

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He's come on and is good enough now but not having an experienced keeper is one of many failings by Mowbray as to why we are not now celebrating a championship return.
 

wingy

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He's come on and is good enough now but not having an experienced keeper is one of many failings by Mowbray as to why we are not now celebrating a championship return.
Agree with that largely.
Hopefully we reap the benefit of his education next season.
Think he's the next nugget off the line to recoup the annual funding shortfall. £2-£3m.
 

Gazolba

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He's come on and is good enough now but not having an experienced keeper is one of many failings by Mowbray as to why we are not now celebrating a championship return.

Have to agree with this. he has developed but we paid a price. Same thing with Joe Cole; we got him fit but it cost us. Tampa Bay Rowdies get the benefit not us.
 

covboy1987

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dont think its much to do with martin. rcc just a good keeper and improving all the time. we should build around him. we do not need a new keeper next year
He started really well and took the record for the most mins without conceding a goal - there was then major changes at the back which unsettled him - he has come back strong recently and the club need to tie him down on a longer term contract
 

Hobo

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He started really well and took the record for the most mins without conceding a goal - there was then major changes at the back which unsettled him - he has come back strong recently and the club need to tie him down on a longer term contract

The injuries at the back and all the chopping and changing, not just personnel but positions as well; that is what has cost us more than Mowbrays faith in RCC. Without that faith he would not have developed in the same way.
 

Grendel

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The injuries at the back and all the chopping and changing, not just personnel but positions as well; that is what has cost us more than Mowbrays faith in RCC. Without that faith he would not have developed in the same way.

I'm not really interested in his development. An experienced keeper would have gained us more points.
 

Hobo

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I'm not really interested in his development. An experienced keeper would have gained us more points.

You don't advocate the club spending money. Then say you are not interested in us developing our own players? RCC gained us lots of points actually. You have no proof an experienced keeper would have done better have you? Did Cole secure us many extra points with his experience?

Your posts are becoming more predictable, boring and slightly insane.
 

Grendel

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You don't advocate the club spending money. Then say you are not interested in us developing our own players? RCC gained us lots of points actually. You have no proof an experienced keeper would have done better have you? Did Cole secure us many extra points with his experience?

Your posts are becoming more predictable, boring and slightly insane.

Yet oddly the two subsequent posts following mine agreed with me and not you.

Perhaps you are the insane one in your deluded view there is any progress. Next season were are in league one - no progress made.
 

Hobo

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I await the arrival of Sick Boy to back you up further, especially as you have provided no evidence your theory is correct. I don't normally ask for evidence or links from posters, but considering you are so keen on it, I think it is only fair to play by the standards set by you.
 

covcity4life

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Years experience for Rcc is surely progress in itself?

If we get promoted next year we will be looking forwards not thinking 'ooooh I wish we had got promoted a year earlier 'after all
 

Grendel

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I await the arrival of Sick Boy to back you up further, especially as you have provided no evidence your theory is correct. I don't normally ask for evidence or links from posters, but considering you are so keen on it, I think it is only fair to play by the standards set by you.

There are no links obviously - you could similarly argue that if we'd played Darius Henderson for every game since he signed he'd have scored 30 goals and we'd be champions.

I just look at the more sensible posters on here and their agreement with my view and take that as evidence.

Ccfc4life is with you all the way though so I guess your view is clearly the sane one.
 

skybluetony176

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Yet oddly the two subsequent posts following mine agreed with me and not you.

Perhaps you are the insane one in your deluded view there is any progress. Next season were are in league one - no progress made.

Compared to the old yard stick (last seasons final table) we're 9 places higher, 19 points better off, scored 18 more goals and conceded 11 less. And we thought you were a fan of stats. I guess it depends on the stats.

Do you have a link to how we haven't progressed?
 

The Lurker

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Very assured again today. He is a very good keeper and probably make it in the championship and even top flight football one day
 

Grendel

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Compared to the old yard stick (last seasons final table) we're 9 places higher, 19 points better off, scored 18 more goals and conceded 11 less. And we thought you were a fan of stats. I guess it depends on the stats.

Do you have a link to how we haven't progressed?

Next years fixture list - League One
 

covcity4life

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Oldskyblue did say that some posters would find a way to deny progress on the this time last year thread

Osb is not sensible. Now I have heard it all haha
 

Grendel

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Oldskyblue did say that some posters would find a way to deny progress on the this time last year thread

Osb is not sensible. Now I have heard it all haha

30 goals and most assists are gone. I suspect Martin will not be offered a new deal. Fleck needs replacing.

Now tell me where the progress is.
 

skybluetony176

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Next years fixture list - League One

So finishing 8th instead of 17th isn't progress? Securing 69 points instead of 55 isn't progress? Scoring 67 goals instead of 49 isn't progress? Conceding 49 goals instead of 60 isn't progress?

For someone who continually goes on about stats you seem very ignorant to these?
 

skybluetony176

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30 goals and most assists are gone. I suspect Martin will not be offered a new deal. Fleck needs replacing.

Now tell me where the progress is.

You should probably wait until the transfer window closes before committing to that opinion. Is it even open yet?
 

Grendel

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So finishing 8th instead of 17th isn't progress? Securing 69 points instead of 55 isn't progress? Scoring 67 goals instead of 49 isn't progress? Conceding 49 goals instead of 60 isn't progress?

For someone who continually goes on about stats you seem very ignorant to these?

It depends on the statistical correlation between seasons and the relevance of the league position from the prior season

I'd argue there is zero relevance and the team that starts next season will be no more likely to challenge for promotion than this one.

The club should have easily ended in the play offs at least. Easily. Pardon me for not being elated and not thinking that a real opportunity had been royally fucked up.
 

The Lurker

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I agree this season probably the best chance of getting out this league and annoying to think Scunthorpe still had a chance going into today and we didn't.
 

The Lurker

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But I wouldn't blame RCC for that. He saved us plenty of points this season and yes cost us a few too but it wasn't his fault we only scored 1 goal in 3 games against bottom 5 teams at home dropping 8 points against the worse teams in the league was partly the reason
 

singers_pore

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We could have called it progress this season had it not been for the fact that our better players, such as Fleck and Arma, won't be here next season. If we don't get some really good players in the Summer next season could be a struggle. Let's hope we are aiming for better than the likes of Hunt, Ricketts and Tudguy.
 

skybluetony176

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It depends on the statistical correlation between seasons and the relevance of the league position from the prior season

I'd argue there is zero relevance and the team that starts next season will be no more likely to challenge for promotion than this one.

The club should have easily ended in the play offs at least. Easily. Pardon me for not being elated and not thinking that a real opportunity had been royally fucked up.

Well. Last season that would have seen us finish 6th. I started a thread on this and the fact is it was a much tougher league this season than last. Especially the top end. Wigan for instance would have only finished third with their points tally last season. So when looking at progress from last season to this we achieved considerably more in a tougher league this season. That's progress and the stats (remember you love the stats) confirm this.
 
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Grendel

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Well. Last season that would have seen us finish 6th. I started a thread on this and the fact is it was a much tougher league this year than last. Especially the top end. Wigan for instance would have only finished third with their points tally last season. So when looking at progress from last season to this we achieved considerably more in a tougher league this season. That's progress and the stats (remember you love the stats) confirm this.

Sigh. Only if the statistical correlation is relevant.

It isn't. Until this season I believe the sixfields home record was the better than a but one at the Ricoh. The statistical fact alone would suggest remaining at sixfields. In isolation the statistic is irrelevant.

Last time the club finished 8th take a little look at what happened next season.
 

skybluetony176

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Sigh. Only if the statistical correlation is relevant.

It isn't. Until this season I believe the sixfields home record was the better than a but one at the Ricoh. The statistical fact alone would suggest remaining at sixfields. In isolation the statistic is irrelevant.

Last time the club finished 8th take a little look at what happened next season.

It's pretty clear that you're dismissive of stats that don't fit your predetermined argument. You really are incapable of admitting you're wrong and would rather move the goal posts than accept you're talking shit.

IIRC the last time we finished 8th was our first season at the Ricoh in the championship. What happened next? I think the club finally fell of that cliff it had been driving towards since relegation from the premier league. We almost went into admin and I guess SISU turned up. How does any of that correlate to finishing 8th this season in league one while not staring administration in the face? Educate the masses oh wise one.
 

WestEndAgro

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This season has ended as a disaster, we should have at the very least made the playoffs, I don't see it as progress I see it as a complete Fuck up by Tony and the boys.
 

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