Butts park arena? (32 Viewers)

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
Surely them lying to fans would just piss their fans off?

probably but my post was how I felt about the news and ccc reaction at this moment
 

Nick

Administrator
It could well be a bluff and posturing, but then you have to wonder what CRFC will get out of it?

Do they want something off Wasps / The Council too?

Are the council looking into the promises made but CRFC haven't heard anything about yet after they used that as a seller?
 

oldfiver

Well-Known Member
I was thinking financial to, not just building plans.

I assume he has some idea what he is doing
Jon Sharp
President & CEO
ELFC

Jon Sharp is President and Chief Executive Officer of Engine Lease Finance Corporation which he founded in 1989. ELFC is the world’s largest non-OEM aero-engine leasing company.

He obtained an honours degree in business studies from the University of Wolverhampton and a Diploma in International Law from London City University.

Jon was Head of Marketing and Commercial of Rolls-Royce’s aero-engine Repair and Overhaul Business worldwide and was subsequently Managing Director of a major airframe and component maintenance company; he has served as a non-executive director on the Boards of Aerothrust Corporation in Miami and Aviation Industry Press in London.

In September 2004, Mr. Sharp was presented by the Institute of Transport Management its Lifetime Achievement Award to “Honour his outstanding contribution to the air transport industry”.

In February 2010 Mr. Sharp was made a Fellow of the Royal Aeronautical Society.
 

Sky Blue Kid

Well-Known Member
Just for all of you to "Mull over" I have also stated if SISU build a Stadium within the "City Boundaries" It would show "Intent". Therefore I would more than likely attend Home games again..... That's "IF"
 

ccfclinney

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Why are people moaning about the stadium not being big enough at 15k.. It's more like then big enough for the lets be honest hardcore 9k here are some average attendance stats over the years :

15/16 - 12,570 (best we have been for good few years)
14/15 - 9,331
13/14 2,348 - shitfields
12/13 - 10,948
11/12 15,188 - championship football

So 15k would be fine untill first season in championship then look to expand on the 2nd season of demand was there !

All it would mean is people would have to book few weeks in advance to get a ticket suites me !!!
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
Just for all of you to "Mull over" I have also stated if SISU build a Stadium within the "City Boundaries" It would show "Intent". Therefore I would more than likely attend Home games again..... That's "IF"

Are you not going until SISU go then? Or is it just based on location?

I live on the South Coast and go when I can (albeit, not often).

Strange post...
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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First time we have seen an external party (Cov Rugby) and the club (CCFC) state they are having conversations.

Interesting times I would say.
 

Ashdown

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Now I'm with the 'council have played a shameful part in our demise camp' but I really think that the rugby club are getting delusions of grandeur here. At present they have a good deal with CCC on the BPA and with funding can expand their own facility and build the club back up to Championship standard at least sometime soon.
This is all smoke and mirrors again from SISU I'm sure. It's no coincidence that this comes after another court defeat and just before [ After the early bird ST sales I guess } they launch JR2 against both the CCC and their landlords. They are banking on CCC ruling against letting them play at the BPA and adding weight to their legal argument that the CCC is bias against them. All they want is victory in court, they couldn't give a shit about victory on a football pitch ! If we are not careful we will be playing at Rushden and Diamonds after all !
The biggest losers here could be CRFC who will trash their own relationship with CCC, although I guess they are also peeved with the sale to Wasps !!
 

chiefdave

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Haha, Maton has blocked me on twitter!

Only pointed out the stadium was built before the old folks home and there's 8K parking spaces, buses and trains to the city centre and then when he complained it would be too noisy asked if he was planning to block Godiva Fest and Ricoh concerts.

Guess when you can't answer the question easier to block.
 

Ashdown

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Haha, Maton has blocked me on twitter!

Only pointed out the stadium was built before the old folks home and there's 8K parking spaces, buses and trains to the city centre and then when he complained it would be too noisy asked if he was planning to block Godiva Fest and Ricoh concerts.

Guess when you can't answer the question easier to block.
Those parking spaces are all over CV1 you clot, many not that close to BPA and most are filled with shoppers on a Saturday !
 

torchomatic

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Haha, Maton has blocked me on twitter!

Only pointed out the stadium was built before the old folks home and there's 8K parking spaces, buses and trains to the city centre and then when he complained it would be too noisy asked if he was planning to block Godiva Fest and Ricoh concerts.

Guess when you can't answer the question easier to block.

Hey, don't think you're special! He blocked me too.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
Now I'm with the 'council have played a shameful part in our demise camp' but I really think that the rugby club are getting delusions of grandeur here. At present they have a good deal with CCC on the BPA and with funding can expand their own facility and build the club back up to Championship standard at least sometime soon.
This is all smoke and mirrors again from SISU I'm sure. It's no coincidence that this comes after another court defeat and just before [ After the early bird ST sales I guess } they launch JR2 against both the CCC and their landlords. They are banking on CCC ruling against letting them play at the BPA and adding weight to their legal argument that the CCC is bias against them. All they want is victory in court, they couldn't give a shit about victory on a football pitch ! If we are not careful we will be playing at Rushden and Diamonds after all !
The biggest losers here could be CRFC who will trash their own relationship with CCC, although I guess they are also peeved with the sale to Wasps !!

But it came from CRFC. First. No one else. Not CCFC. Not SISU. CRFC.
 

chiefdave

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Those parking spaces are all over CV1 you clot, many not that close to BPA and most are filled with shoppers on a Saturday !

I thought nobody went to the city centre anymore, now there's not a spare space to be had out of 8,000?

BTW, i only did a quick sum of car parks with 15 mins walk of the Butts, I wouldn't count any of those as being too far away. In any case how often are all 3K parking spaces at the Ricoh sold out? And that's a ground that is pretty much inaccessible by public transport.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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Are you not going until SISU go then? Or is it just based on location?

I live on the South Coast and go when I can (albeit, not often).

Strange post...
Very strange post, considering you never read posts either properly, or look back(Research what posters have said in the past.) I have indeed said if SISU showed "Proper intent" I would consider going to games again. Have a look back at my posts..... Oh, but you don't do things like that do you?
 

skybluetony176

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I assume he has some idea what he is doing
Jon Sharp
President & CEO
ELFC

Jon Sharp is President and Chief Executive Officer of Engine Lease Finance Corporation which he founded in 1989. ELFC is the world’s largest non-OEM aero-engine leasing company.

He obtained an honours degree in business studies from the University of Wolverhampton and a Diploma in International Law from London City University.

Jon was Head of Marketing and Commercial of Rolls-Royce’s aero-engine Repair and Overhaul Business worldwide and was subsequently Managing Director of a major airframe and component maintenance company; he has served as a non-executive director on the Boards of Aerothrust Corporation in Miami and Aviation Industry Press in London.

In September 2004, Mr. Sharp was presented by the Institute of Transport Management its Lifetime Achievement Award to “Honour his outstanding contribution to the air transport industry”.

In February 2010 Mr. Sharp was made a Fellow of the Royal Aeronautical Society.

All very nice but I assume he isn't doing the business plan for CCFC? That's one of the first things we need to see if we're going to get behind this. My other concern is that Jon Sharp seems to have the say on what does and doesn't happen in regards to the development. Is it going to be built as a Rugby ground for a club with aspirations of premier league Rugby or a football ground for a club with aspirations for the premier league? Just how much are SISU in the driving seat regarding the development? It doesn't sound much at all. We could end up with a not too dissimilar situation than we're in with Wasps but only in an inferior ground with ticket revenue cut short because of capacity, or lack thereof.

We need to see some plans, we need to know how this works, if it works. I for one am not going to blindly and silently walk my club into a situation where I have no idea what the benefits are if there are indeed any at all. Why would I?
 

Otis

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I am happy to move to the Butts, but am greatly worried about the capacity available. They say it could be expanded as much as 25,000, but that in reality it will be much lower in order to incorporate the other things needed.

As has been said by many posters on many occasions, we will get well over 20,000 for big games (even in League One) and if you look at the trend for any club with any ambition whatsoever, it is to increase capacity not decrease it.

We can come down to 25,000 I reckon, but nothing less than that. The Ricoh is just too big, so we are in a position to come down slightly, but certainly not to halve it.

I think if we have much less than 25,000 it is only a short term fix, unless we are happy to just be hovering around League One and possibly into the Championship til hell freezes over.

Clubs are looking to expand their stadiums, not significantly lower their attendance level and we know we CAN attract big crowds.

25,000 minimum is required.
 
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We need to see some plans, we need to know how this works, if it works. I for one am not going to blindly and silently walk my club into a situation where I have no idea what the benefits are if there are indeed any at all. Why would I?

But as ever, we're getting bogged down in finances, whereas the cultural benefits are a no-brainer.
 

Ashdown

Well-Known Member
But it came from CRFC. First. No one else. Not CCFC. Not SISU. CRFC.
Yes, I think they are being done over. They have been reeled into this by a hedge fund about to launch more legal action and desperate for another 'Sixfields'. Jon Sharp as I say is suffering with delusions of Grandeur and if he's not careful will wreck what CRFC do have. This will all be a legal nightmare again, something SISU revel in. If City did move in I can see a bunch of temporary seating stands erected and capacity raising to circa 7500 whilst all the wrangling continues. The final scenario when SISU finally run out of legal arguments will be removal of temporary arrangements, CCFC blown their bridges with Wasps and homeless and CRFC having muddied their relationship with CCC !
 

torchomatic

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This thread is really showing how some place more importance on being anti SISU than they do being supportive of CCFC.
It's all the "SISU Bluff" comments that make me laugh even though it was CRFC who put the news out there in the first place. Italia is just being...well Italia.
 

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