You really are a spokesman for them ! But then I guess in your position you would have to be.......................
They haven't threatened you have they ?..................
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They haven't threatened you have they ?..................
Brylowes
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But we are at the Ricoh, we don't have to run up millions in dept to build it
chiefdave
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The Wasps flags are now MTV flags.
Could we not ask Wasps (maybe pay) to put our flags up ?
No sorry, victims don't do that
The Wasps flags were put up by ACL, they have now replaced them with MTV flags. Strange that they seem keen to promote events at the Ricoh but not CCFC matches there.
Brylowes
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Torch liked this post, while insisting we have to leave the Ricoh because we don't own it.
dongonzalos
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That's quite frightening.
Do you think they are saying 15k because that is all they would be able to afford?
Then I suppose prices will just go up and as some say on here say "tough " for those who either can't afford and will be priced out or miss out because they can't get a ticket.
stupot07
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How much would you say is reasonable for sticking a flags up on a roundabout which I presume acl don't even own?The Wasps flags are now MTV flags.
Could we not ask Wasps (maybe pay) to put our flags up ?
No sorry, victims don't do that
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Otis
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I think they are saying 15,000 because one, it would suit Cov Rugby best and two, because space is very tight.
chiefdave
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Can't have it both ways. Either things stay as they are and 15K will be fine or we have success and its full every week.
I haven't seen the budget for the new stadium so I'm not sure where you've pulled tens and tens of millions from. The council only put £10m in for the Ricoh, less than 10% of the cost. As I have said if the best financial projection is a move then move. The point being we would be better off than we are now. That is a better base to move forward at a later date.
At the moment our options appear to be stay at the Ricoh, move to the Butts or move out of the city. If those three are examined and the best way forward is the Butts then surely you do that. Nobody is saying its the perfect solution just that it may be the best option we currently have. Working to put ourselves in a better position will give us more chance of attracting new owners and future investment so could act as a springboard.
Interesting that only you and Tony seem to have full details of the move, care to share with everyone else?
The difference will be a partnership. Since Wasps have moved in we've been kicked out of our dressing room, walk out of a tunnel full of Wasps branding, have Wasps logos dwarfing ours, bars have been renamed, Wasps logos around the pitch, a huge Wasps logo on the atrium and Wasps branding around the north east side of the stadium and everything CCFC related has been removed from the corporate area..
Do you think when the time comes for the seats to be replaced they will be sky blue or yellow and black?
If we utterly blow our bridges with Wasps. we could end up in the BPA, but with temporary seating and a reduced capacity to say 6/7000 { It will look like Bath Rugby used to }. I imagine the price for tickets would skyrocket, especially if we were doing ok as the supply and demand would dictate this. On this basis SISU could probably still run it at break even whilst fucking about in one court or another until Kingdom come. Everything they do has a feel of 'leaving an escape route open'. They wont invest millions of pounds at the BPA, it will be a minimal low cost temporary exercise paid for by the supporters.
In the meantime Wasps will push on with their transformation of the Ricoh, the seats will go Yellow and black, there will be more of their marketing and advertising and probably more floating local sports fans will be pushed to them rather than a cramped little operation where City play.
SISU are bending people over with this bullshit and giving them the full length ! I don't think anything will happen anyway other than SISU trying to strike a decent extended deal on rent with the pests !
In the meantime Wasps will push on with their transformation of the Ricoh, the seats will go Yellow and black, there will be more of their marketing and advertising and probably more floating local sports fans will be pushed to them rather than a cramped little operation where City play.
SISU are bending people over with this bullshit and giving them the full length ! I don't think anything will happen anyway other than SISU trying to strike a decent extended deal on rent with the pests !
italiahorse
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Have we bothered to ask to put flags up ?
I guess we could certainly pay to put some up.
I'll sponsor one.
Brylowes
Well-Known Member
Or ground share the Bedrock oval in non league getting 6 or 7 hundred.
italiahorse
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Would you still want to go if it's more expensive to the club though ?
italiahorse
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If we are planning to move they won't even consider us.
If we plan to take them to court we probably can't even talk to them.
However as it stands it looks more like our ground than theirs.
If we are on board we will be considered in future changes.
I'd go for a mixture of yellow and sky blue personally. Looks nice
torchomatic
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And the plague of locusts. Don't forget the plague of locusts.
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Kingokings204
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I think you don't have to look far past sisu won't spend a penny on us so how do we fund the 15k stadium in the first place?
Sorry the more I say 15k stadium the more it just sounds wrong. We are not a tin pot club. 3 attendences over 15k in league 1 just last season. That's enough proof for me.
Brylowes
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If and its a BIG if you could squeeze a 25.000 seater stadium at the BPA it really would be some
feat of engineering. It takes a lot of men materials and large machines inc, cranes, pile drivers,
Earth moving equipment, dumping trucks, articulated lorry's , rolling equipment, not to mention
stores , canteens, offices, toilets not to mention safety perimeter fencing. Everything would have
to be completed under close Scrutiny of Safety Executive.
Brylowes
Well-Known Member
There already here.
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
...... and Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm ?
chiefdave
Well-Known Member
Why? Unless you think a new stadium is going to appear overnight then we will have several more years at the Ricoh. As a landlord that should mean we get consideration. If you're a landlord you don't ignore your tenants because they might move out in five years time.
Why? Its not unusual in the business world for companies to work together while they are taking legal action. Just look at Samsung and Apple.
In some respects thats true however in others its not. Go round the corporate areas, walk down the tunnel, approach the ground from the car park A. Very little indication of our existence.
That could be wishful thinking.
Nick
Administrator
Spokesman how, for talking sense?
Nope, never spoken to them or been threatened by them.
They aren't a family made up of lawyers thankfully else I would need to worry.
Ashdown in being incorrect, part 459. It is becoming a habit now that people get all shouty and outraged but as usually misinformed or wrong!
Surely if we got as many fans to support the club, it would show that a smaller stadium wouldn't work? Meanwhile we have fans who refuse to go kicking off about the capacity.
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skybluegod
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It shows a lack of ambition? To an extent maybe, as it doesn't plan for when we are winning every game. However when we aren't there are going to be 1000's of empty seats still? There is no evidence to support the claim that we will average over 25k- the maximum.
The highest average attendance we have had in the last 26 years- is 21,000 in 2006.
Even in our premiership days, we averaged below capacity.. With the last season in the league recorded at 20.582.
It only lacks ambition if we are already selling above, what the capacity is planned to be.
Just because we broke 17,000 the whole of twice this season, does not reflect general demand.
Our Fan base has considerably dropped, and understandably for some due to how shit the last few years have been. But people can not complain about the stadium being too small. When we have two quarters of the current stadium closed off.
As Nick says. Sell out every game now, and show we need a bigger stadium. Don't base it on the judgement that we can fill it up when we play big teams.
The highest average attendance we have had in the last 26 years- is 21,000 in 2006.
Even in our premiership days, we averaged below capacity.. With the last season in the league recorded at 20.582.
It only lacks ambition if we are already selling above, what the capacity is planned to be.
Just because we broke 17,000 the whole of twice this season, does not reflect general demand.
Our Fan base has considerably dropped, and understandably for some due to how shit the last few years have been. But people can not complain about the stadium being too small. When we have two quarters of the current stadium closed off.
As Nick says. Sell out every game now, and show we need a bigger stadium. Don't base it on the judgement that we can fill it up when we play big teams.
Nick
Administrator
That is because apparently we will be in the Premier League within 3 years under SISU. Can't wait to see the Ricoh full this year rather than people sitting at home on their arse moaning about court cases as stopping them from going, then they can't get a ticket for a big cup game.
Many did not like Highfield Road because it was:
1) Too small
2) Difficult to get to
3) Impossible to park
4) Demonstrated a lack of ambition
5) Old fashioned, etc.
People have short memories....
How is a move to the Butts going to be good for the supporters? Where is the extra income going to come from on a limited gate and no room for the much heralded money making facilities and shops . Then there is the funding of the build ! Have our senses been blurred by our owners fecking up on securing the Ricoh
No sense of humour you my boy !!
Nick
Administrator
Ah that one where somebody throws something out there, turns out to be wrong and then they say "Ah it was a joke".
Course Cuz.
But we broke 17000, in League 1, with less than 2000 away supporters ?! Just suppose we went on a sustained run even at this level, Cov fans would have crawled out from everywhere to ride a bit of success, we would have soon been over 20,000 +. In this La La land scenario. at least 5000 of those would have been locked out !
It's a forum for discussion, opinions and ideas. If we all knew the exact future there would be little to throw into the fire would there ? No one has turned out to be wrong or right on this latest farce have they ? The only predicted and accurate thing is that the SISU scumbags are going back to appeal....again !
Otis
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Sorry, but it pointless talking about what we did in the past. We have now had over 25 years of abject failure and the trend is out there for all to see that clubs are expanding their stadiums and moving to newer and bigger stadiums. That is a fact and there is no getting away from it.
We get success we will get the crowds.
Are you basing your whole presumptions on Sky Blue Kid !?
Nick
Administrator
I am talking about you keep going on at me with your random crap. The latest about being threatened by somebody, it's quite funny really as people will miss my other comment about by threads I guess.
The same as "being in my position", the same as me drinking in the bull and anchor, the same as me booing Jacob Murphy.
If you want to start insinuating things like "in my position I have to be a sisu spokesperson", then you should really start backing them up at the same time.
chiefdave
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We did and the attendances crept up very slowly and dropped right back down as soon as we lost a game.
Malaka
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Its total bollocks, we will never share a ground with Cov. SISU have spouted bullshit for years, 'we have identified a site' 'it is on the outskirts of Coventry' blah blah blah!. I wish they would just fuck off. We really have no choice but to stay at The Ricoh. They had their chance to buy it but wanted to steal it. Wankers' all of them.