Butts park arena? (25 Viewers)

[Nick]

That's the danger
Who gets a ticket in the Prem want be decided on loyalty.
You may get first option if you are an existing season ticket holder then let's hope you can afford it.
However it you can make most of the matches but miss some due to personal circumstances so can't get a season ticket. You could get screwed over by a new fan, a returning fan or the corporate section that will re kindle it's interest.

So we shouldn't move to the Butts in case somebody can't get a ticket in the Premier League?

Let's be a bit more realistic and honest about things, we have a long way to go before we get a look in anywhere close to the top of the championship. To do that we would need a new owner, which we would struggle to get as is. We saw how put off people were with the stadium situation before SISU came in.

 

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[dongonzalos]

So we shouldn't move to the Butts in case somebody can't get a ticket in the Premier League?

Let's be a bit more realistic and honest about things, we have a long way to go before we get a look in anywhere close to the top of the championship. To do that we would need a new owner, which we would struggle to get as is. We saw how put off people were with the stadium situation before SISU came in.

This will really start going down a debate that we have had so many times before.
I don't think we ever saw the level of interest in the club because most people would not want to buy it until after administration. (However lets park that otherwise the thread will go way off track)

I agree it is unlikely it will get sold in the current situation because the owners say they won't sell it in the current situation.
The money we would pay to get 25k at the Butts. I would rather them build our own stadium with a 30k capacity (or potential). It would need to start at 23-25k as well in case we had a successful championship campaign.
The Butts is my favourite location however never been able to get above 25k without another stadium move down the line is not good and I am not happy about it.

 

[Brylowes]

They would have to do a system for selling tickets with a smaller capacity. There would be season tickets, memberships and then somebody like yourself who does go a lot should then get preference over Dave from Bedworth who just wants to go and see Eden Hazard.

With Ticketmaster now, there is a lot more power to do things properly I think.

I get that Nick but but 15.000 take off away fans , take off no mans land , and there's not
much left , even with where we are now. I'll back up what others have said, 25.000 rising
to 30.000 in a central location and I would be all over it .
And on top of everything else, there is absolutely nothing in SISUs history with us that
makes me think they will ever deliver on anything they say.

 

[dongonzalos]

Nick, do you think we will build at 25k capacity stadium at the Butts?

 

[Nick]

And on top of everything else, there is absolutely nothing in SISUs history with us that
makes me think they will ever deliver on anything they say.

In which case you wouldn't need to worry about the Premier League and not being able to get a ticket...

 

[Nick]

Nick, do you think we will build at 25k capacity stadium at the Butts?

I have no idea, this ideas seems to have got further than the others in the fact they have actually spoken to somebody...

As with everything, it is being spoken about as a "what if". I haven't started looking at bus routes.

 

[torchomatic]

Not sure about anyone else but Otis, Brylowes, Dongo et all have got me really excited.

Within the next couple of years we're going to have a couple of promotions and have thirty thousand sell out crowds week after week.






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[Otis]

Not sure about anyone else but Otis, Brylowes, Dongo et all have got me really excited.

Within the next couple of years we're going to have a couple of promotions and have thirty thousand sell out crowds week after week.






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Be great if someone had actually said that, Torch, but in reality of course no-one has.

The talk of expansion is down the line WHEN it is needed. As long as there is scope to expand enough, 15,000 is fine for now.

You carry on twisting though and reading between the lines. It's what City fans do best.

 

[Brylowes]

Not sure about anyone else but Otis, Brylowes, Dongo et all have got me really excited.

Within the next couple of years we're going to have a couple of promotions and have thirty thousand sell out crowds week after week.
Ok let's not aspire to anything, let's just settle and be thankful.

Yes we are miles from the prem, but we were a gnats knacker from the championship.

And anyway if we're not going to progress, we may as well not progress at the Ricoh,

Rather than paying out millions and getting saddled with more dept to not progress.





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[Brylowes]

Not sure about anyone else but Otis, Brylowes, Dongo et all have got me really excited.

Within the next couple of years we're going to have a couple of promotions and have thirty thousand sell out crowds week after week.
So we shouldn't aspire, we should all just settle.

We may be miles from the prem ,but we were a gnats knacker from the championship,

But if we are not going to progress, we may as well not progress at the Ricoh.

After all why pay out millions and saddle the club with more dept, to not progress.





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[Brylowes]

I have no idea, this ideas seems to have got further than the others in the fact they have actually spoken to somebody...

As with everything, it is being spoken about as a "what if". I haven't started looking at bus routes.

Nick just sent 2 posts to torch but only the quote appears?

 

[dongonzalos]

Not sure about anyone else but Otis, Brylowes, Dongo et all have got me really excited.

Within the next couple of years we're going to have a couple of promotions and have thirty thousand sell out crowds week after week.






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I have a dream !!!!

Unfortunately for me I am saying that's what our realistic aim as a football club should be and if that's your aim a 25k capacity stadium isn't enough.
30k enough.

Anyway you shouldn't get too excited you will be priced out the market only Grendel will be able to afford it, when we get there and we still have a 15k stadium and twice the demand for season tickets

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Yes expansion to 25k is fine

 

[dongonzalos]

I have no idea, this ideas seems to have got further than the others in the fact they have actually spoken to somebody...

As with everything, it is being spoken about as a "what if". I haven't started looking at bus routes.

I think they spoke to Rugby Council as well. Regarding an 18k stadium that can rise to 23k.

 

[Brylowes]

I think they spoke to Rugby Council as well. Regarding an 18k stadium that can rise to 23k.

I think they hurriedly spoke to Rugby didn't they , when FOIs started getting bandied about wasn't it.

 

[dongonzalos]

I think they hurriedly spoke to Rugby didn't they , when FOIs started getting bandied about wasn't it.

Why did the Rugby one never get off the ground.
Not that I would want the stadium located their either tbf.

 

[chiefdave]

Why did the Rugby one never get off the ground.

Tim Fisher

 

[Otis]

Not sure about anyone else but Otis, Brylowes, Dongo et all have got me really excited.

Within the next couple of years we're going to have a couple of promotions and have thirty thousand sell out crowds week after week.






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Shame you are so negative, Torch. Wait til CC4L gets on here.

If you don't believe it possible we can make the Championship in 3 years, then so be it and if you don't think it possible we can make the Premier League in 10, then, oh well, not much else to say is there.

No-one is saying we WILL do it, but to deny it is possible is quite sad I would say.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

We shouldn't need to give Wasps fuck all. I hope Exeter stuff them today.

Great to see Wasps lose today...a trophy-less season for them...brilliant. And do you know what...I met with Exeter Chiefs through the week and was talking to them about their preseason plans. By and large, they wanted to keep things local as they appreciate how important the local community is. If only every rugby club was like that...

Anyway, at a friends wedding in Edinburgh tonight so going to raise a glass to Exeter. I recommend the castle if anyone ever comes up this way. Nice.

Laters...

 

[Nick]

Shame you are so negative, Torch. Wait til CC4L gets on here.

If you don't believe it possible we can make the Championship in 3 years, then so be it and if you don't think it possible we can make the Premier League in 10, then, oh well, not much else to say is there.

No-one is saying we WILL do it, but to deny it is possible is quite sad I would say.

I do believe as is we can make the championship, I do think at the very most we would be lucky to be a mid table championship club.

Just can't see how we can compete with the parachute payments

 

[Otis]

Great to see Wasps lose today...a trophy-less season for them...brilliant. And do you know what...I met with Exeter Chiefs through the week and was talking to them about their preseason plans. By and large, they wanted to keep things local as they appreciate how important the local community is. If only every rugby club was like that...

Anyway, at a friends wedding in Edinburgh tonight so going to raise a glass to Exeter. I recommend the castle if anyone ever comes up this way. Nice.

Laters...

I watched Wasps today. First time ever.

Obviously wnated them to lose so was rooting for Exeter.

Perfect!!

 

[Otis]

I do believe as is we can make the championship, I do think at the very most we would be lucky to be a mid table championship club.

Just can't see how we can compete with the parachute payments

We be happy with mid-table Championship for now wouldn't we?

4 or 5 seasons in the Championship and then see where we are.

 

[Nick]

We be happy with mid-table Championship for now wouldn't we?

4 or 5 seasons in the Championship and then see where we are.

Id be very happy with that, it's much more realistic than all of the premier league stuff.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

To me the Ricoh is soulless for a community club like ours but works well well for Wasps and there fans where ever they come from,as being on the edge of the city with a fans village and easily accessable for motorway networks. The Ricoh had never felt like home in all the 11 years we have left with it being so isolated and just isn't a good day out for either home or away fans. Having a City Centre stadium will hopefully make it feel more like home and a bit nostalgic in a tight ground with all the new stadium bowls lacking character and identity.15000 at first and 25000 if required ample for us because if ever did get back to prem can't see us sustaining full attendances after a couple of seasons. Playing Leeds, Villa,Blues, Wolves, Newcastle, Sheffield Wed in the championship I'd be equally happy with at a packed Butts. Bring it on!

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Shame you are so negative, Torch. Wait til CC4L gets on here.

If you don't believe it possible we can make the Championship in 3 years, then so be it and if you don't think it possible we can make the Premier League in 10, then, oh well, not much else to say is there.

No-one is saying we WILL do it, but to deny it is possible is quite sad I would say.

Not read what Torch has said in previous posts (watch SBK pick me up on that...) but if I he's said what I reckon he's said, then we never really broke 25k regularly in the PL. One off games maybe.

And people bang on about how much SISU has damaged our levels of support especially with future generations but then question the notion of a stadium of 25k max? I guess when the argument suits eh. And that's not aimed at you Otis you little one liner monkey you.

 

[Skyblueweeman]

I watched Wasps today. First time ever.

Obviously wnated them to lose so was rooting for Exeter.

Perfect!!

Mrs WM is in the shower so I've opened a bottle of bubbles to start the night off well!

 

[Otis]

Id be very happy with that, it's much more realistic than all of the premier league stuff.

But again, no-one has said we will get in the Premier League. The whole argument is in terms of limiting your options in having a stadium not equipped for the Premier.

I don't believe anyone would build a stadium without any aspiration one day.

Just can't see any point in building a stadium for League One football and without having to sound like a broken record, I like many others have very serious doubts we would ever be allowed to have a 25,000 seater stadium at the Butts.

If you build a new stadium surely you build something to home you for decades to come.

 

[The Gentleman]

No idea, hence why I think it should be looked into further not written off as impossible on day one. If it works out at a net benefit to the club over x number of years against staying at the Ricoh why would our owners prefer to stay?


Again, nobody has seen them hence throwing the idea out as impossible is ridiculous.

Are you just copy and pasting bits of peoples posts to try and twist words or to suit your point of view? Can you show me where I said the idea is impossible? You conveniently left out the last bit of my post where I said I'll just wait and see. However, with Sisu's track record, are you confident?

 

[dongonzalos]

I do believe as is we can make the championship, I do think at the very most we would be lucky to be a mid table championship club.

Just can't see how we can compete with the parachute payments

That is an absolute disgrace some 70-90 million!!!
Without a rich owner it could become the same 30 teams on and off in the premiership.

 

[chiefdave]

I don't believe anyone would build a stadium without any aspiration one day.

Interesting point really. If Scunthorpe or Rochdale went and built a 30K plus stadium would we applaud them for being aspirational or think they were being a bit stupid?

 

[dongonzalos]

Not read what Torch has said in previous posts (watch SBK pick me up on that...) but if I he's said what I reckon he's said, then we never really broke 25k regularly in the PL. One off games maybe.

And people bang on about how much SISU has damaged our levels of support especially with future generations but then question the notion of a stadium of 25k max? I guess when the argument suits eh. And that's not aimed at you Otis you little one liner monkey you.

Yes this has been debated already.
SISU need the stadium to sell the club, if someone buys us who can get us to the premier league. They will hampered by a stadium that can never develop beyond 25k.
The premier league had changed massively since we were there it is far more popular and you will need more than a 25k stadium.
Swansea have around 20k capacity and they have 8000 people waiting for season tickets.
They have had permission to extend to 30k for two years yet it still hasn't happened.
Enjoy the wedding and the champers!

 

[dongonzalos]

Interesting point really. If Scunthorpe or Rochdale went and built a 30K plus stadium would we applaud them for being aspirational or think they were being a bit stupid?

If Bournmouth had done it I would have applauded them.
Not taking the piss now but what is the populations of Scunthorpe or Rochdale?

 

[Skyblueweeman]

Yes this has been debated already.
SISU need the stadium to sell the club, if someone buys us who can get us to the premier league. They will hampered by a stadium that can never develop beyond 25k.
The premier league had changed massively since we were there it is far more popular and you will need more than a 25k stadium.
Swansea have around 20k capacity and they have 8000 people waiting for season tickets.
They have had permission to extend to 30k for two years yet it still hasn't happened.
Enjoy the wedding and the champers!

Yeah, but Swansea are kinda like Norwich aren't they in terms of location and local competition.

Anyway, cheers Dong.

 

[dongonzalos]

Yeah, but Swansea are kinda like Norwich aren't they in terms of location and local competition.

Anyway, cheers Dong.

Yes people have suggested they haven't got the competition for fans we have.
I genuinely think we have massive potential because of the size of our city and the lure of the premier league
However getting there with the money these days will require new owners.
Nothing against SISU but they had their go at that plan and don't seem to want to do it again.

 

[Otis]

Interesting point really. If Scunthorpe or Rochdale went and built a 30K plus stadium would we applaud them for being aspirational or think they were being a bit stupid?

Again Dave, it is not about building a 30,000 seater stadium, it is about having the scope to expand to that if needed.