The CT has a lot to answer for (12 Viewers)
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torchomatic
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You put an F in there by mistake.
chiefdave
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That's the frustration. SISU say something and there's FOI requests flying in and a determination to show the statement to be false. Higgs, CCC, ACL, CSF or Wasps come out with something and its not challenged.
For example in the piece about Wasps moving to Higgs Wasps claimed they picked that site as it was in the city centre and close to the Ricoh - its neither yet it goes unchallenged.
Surely as the local paper they should really be pushing Wasps on why, when they claimed there was 17 possible sites, they are going for the one that impacts the academy. Same with Higgs, go after them for their vindictive actions against the club. And with CCC, push them on their attempts to block the club playing elsewhere.
Nick
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And that's exactly why most people are so misinformed. Blind hatred and no interest in the actual truth as long as they can spin it to make sisu look bad.
Well, the SISU apologists/CCC batters keep trolling out the myth that CCFC is being blocked at every turn.
So no doubt they will be able to reference the lodged applications; these are available on CCC website even if sometimes heavily redacted to preserve 'confidentiality'
Ha.
No, thought not.
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So no doubt they will be able to reference the lodged applications; these are available on CCC website even if sometimes heavily redacted to preserve 'confidentiality'
Ha.
No, thought not.
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torchomatic
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The Trust have been just the same. They're happy enough to fire off FOI requests to councils asking if an application for a stadium has been made. Not so proactive on other occasions, are they?
fernandopartridge
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The first focus of any journalist should be holding elected members to account. What a private limited company does isn't really their business.
stupot07
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Nick
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What myths are you talking about?
Nick
Administrator
Wasn't it only to do with whether it was state aid or not? That 1 decision?
covcity4life
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Let me think. http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/buying-land-new-coventry-city-6404266
We're being blocked at every turn.
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We're being blocked at every turn.
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Nick
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Can you list all of the myths?Let me think. http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/buying-land-new-coventry-city-6404266
We're being blocked at every turn.
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chiefdave
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What are your thoughts on CCC attempting to get the lease changed to prevent the club playing at the Butts, or Higgs putting a restriction in place preventing the academy remaining at Higgs?
Yes. What else is there?
Trading company wants freehold on a stadium they can lease back to a football club that they own and manage.
But don't want to pay for?
I can't quite work out why Simon should be holding elected members to account for this. Of course, as previously stated on here, the actions of private trading companies are not his business.
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Grendel
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Yes. What else is there?
Trading company wants freehold on a stadium they can lease back to a football club that they own and manage.
But don't want to pay for?
I can't quite work out why Simon should be holding elected members to account for this. Of course, as previously stated on here, the actions of private trading companies are not his business.
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What was the first CCFC match you ever attended Tim?
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT
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There's no doubt there are a few in there who aren't plants. They are just like bob latchford on ecstasy and cans of red bull!
They refuse to post on here because they get called out on just posting the same incorrect stuff over and over
Some people are paranoid, I've been accused on this forum of being Bob Latchford and an GMK user . Well for the record I've never been on GMK and I'm definitely not Bob Latchford.
Nick
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So the only issue any ccfc fan has with the council is if it was state aid?Yes. What else is there?
Trading company wants freehold on a stadium they can lease back to a football club that they own and manage.
But don't want to pay for?
I can't quite work out why Simon should be holding elected members to account for this. Of course, as previously stated on here, the actions of private trading companies are not his business.
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chiefdave
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So why did the council attempt to get the lease at the Butts amended to state professional football can't be played there. Is it SISU or CCFC who play football?
Captain Dart
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Story just got into national press.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/s...-us-out-of-town-coventry-city-claim-v0xlt3f37
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/s...-us-out-of-town-coventry-city-claim-v0xlt3f37
Guessing CCC legal team recommended this insertion to protect interest of primary tenant, presumably at request of that nervous tenant. Hardly an amendment though, this was part of the covenant that existed ever since CRFC moved into BPA.
The changes in lease status; possibly enabling development of the site probably caught CCC on the hop (because new owner DID want to explore discussions CCFC?)
It's all a distraction though. The site is more than 52 acres smaller than what Mr Fisher has repeatedly said is required, so should be dismissed.
It helps the apologists, it means they have the feeblest imaginable excuse to say they have been baulked/obstructed/defied at every turn.
But there surely isn't anyone ANYWHERE that seriously thought that the BPA and surrounding infrastructure (rather lack of) could ever support anything other than non league football?
Looking forward to reading about all the other CCC actions that have blocked CCFCs progress on developing the new stadium.
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The changes in lease status; possibly enabling development of the site probably caught CCC on the hop (because new owner DID want to explore discussions CCFC?)
It's all a distraction though. The site is more than 52 acres smaller than what Mr Fisher has repeatedly said is required, so should be dismissed.
It helps the apologists, it means they have the feeblest imaginable excuse to say they have been baulked/obstructed/defied at every turn.
But there surely isn't anyone ANYWHERE that seriously thought that the BPA and surrounding infrastructure (rather lack of) could ever support anything other than non league football?
Looking forward to reading about all the other CCC actions that have blocked CCFCs progress on developing the new stadium.
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CCFC_Charlie
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Interesting that in your entire post history you haven't spoken about the actual football once, but instead seem to have signed up to this forum to defend the council?
Nick
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Do you have to pay to read it?
Nick
Administrator
You missed a word out, you don't seem to be in touch with some of the issues people have.
It may be wise to view the SISU / CCFC. relationship in the same way that SISU see it.
Any monies spent by the owners remains OWED, attracts interest and the debt falls due in 2017.
Does anyone need the truth about a new stadium spelling out?
If the day ever comes SISU will charge CCFC to play there.
And if any local authority is dumb enough to fall for another failed stadium venture, their local tax payers will never forgive them. So hardly likely to touch them with a barge pole
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Nick
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But if somebody says they have an issue about the council for something like bringing Wasps here, why do you just keep replying about a stadium?
Can you confirm the issues you think CCFC FANS have with the council? Not CCFC, not SISU. The fans. ie people on this site.
Perhaps you should choose your words more carefully, Nick. Otherwise the FANS on here may get misled?
So for starters.....since when did the council 'BRING Wasps here'?
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chiefdave
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Surely the primary tenant can protect themselves. Or are you saying SISU are so powerful they can force any groundshare agreement they desire?
If Millerchip is concerned he doesn't have to sell the lease. The sub lease holder certainly doesn't seem concerned.
The current clause allows it to be used for rugby. The amendment suggested by the council specifically excluded professional football.
chiefdave
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Would Wasps be here had the council not sold ACL to them?
Nick
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When you answer my question about fans and their issues?