Gary Speed dead (6 Viewers)

[covcity4life]

very sad situation

was a brilliant player and seemed to be rejuvinating wales,such a loss

RIP Gary Speed

 

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[skybluesteve76]

Kuklinski is the name. I do what I want, when I want, and no amount of self-righteous indignation will stop me having an opinion, even if it is at odds with the majority. Deal with it.

I'm so sorry. Cough weirdo cough

 

[oldskyblue58]

Firstly my sympathy and condolences to his wife and children. Truly a shock and so very sad. RIP Gary Speed

I am wary of writing the next bit .... i dont want to create triggers.....

If indeed it was depression, as would seem most likely, then folk need to understand a few things. Depression has nothing to do with being a success or failure, it isnt about being rich or poor, it isnt about being loved or not. It doesnt respect gender, class or colour of skin and when it hits it can debilitate as surely as any other illness. It is not being fed up with your job or not wanting to go to a meeting with an awkward client, nor the latest bad football result. The decision to take own life isnt rational so it isnt selfish (to be selfish is a rational thought), depression robs you of much in life including rational thought. It isnt being sad for a day, it is deep dark locked in misery that can last months or longer.

It isnt about being a coward...... just think about being scared to the pit of your stomach waking each and every day dreading what that day might bring but having to wear a mask of happiness and contentment so you dont hurt those you care about, knowing you need help but unable to ask...... then do that for day after day after day..... knowing when you sleep (if you can) that tomorrow will be the same, but you have to go on. Those who suffer struggle to get through the next minute hour or day ...... and very often no one knows the struggle and fight they put up

Depression does not respect who or what you are, there is no "type" of person. Often there are no physical signs. It can be triggered by major events in a life (not necessarily bad events) or a series of smaller events. It isnt easy to explain what it is, it is different for each person and very often it is not taken seriously by others, dismissed as weak or "pull yourself together". It is hard on the sufferer but also hard on those close to them, who live each day with the fear of whether someone they love and care for will slip back into depression or worse.... very often those carers feel helpless because all they can do is to be there, and that somehow doesnt seem ever enough for someone you love.

I once had it explained to me like this. Imagine you are at the bottom of a deep pit, the air is thick and clinging, you are cold and alone, the only light is is a small flickering light high above but where you are is pitch black, the walls are slippery and you have tried to climb but keep slipping down, you know you have to keep climbing but it gets harder and harder, you are calling out but no one hears and the panic is rising. You are fixed on the light, you know you have a chance so long as the light is there.......... but what happens if the light goes out?

Certainly folk are entitled their opinions, personally i find some comments lacking in understanding (at best). My final thought is to send my best wishes to anyone who suffers this curse, there is help to be found please hang in there, and to hope those less understanding never have to experience its effects for themselves or someone they hold dear.

OSB

 

[skybluesteve76]

Firstly my sympathy and condolences to his wife and children. Truly a shock and so very sad. RIP Gary Speed

I am wary of writing the next bit .... i dont want to create triggers.....

If indeed it was depression, as would seem most likely, then folk need to understand a few things. Depression has nothing to do with being a success or failure, it isnt about being rich or poor, it isnt about being loved or not. It doesnt respect gender, class or colour of skin and when it hits it can debilitate as surely as any other illness. It is not being fed up with your job or not wanting to go to a meeting with an awkward client, nor the latest bad football result. The decision to take own life isnt rational so it isnt selfish (to be selfish is a rational thought), depression robs you of much in life including rational thought. It isnt being sad for a day, it is deep dark locked in misery that can last months or longer.

It isnt about being a coward...... just think about being scared to the pit of your stomach waking each and every day dreading what that day might bring but having to where a mask of happiness and contentment so you dont hurt those you care about, knowing you need help but unable to ask...... then do that for day after day after day..... knowing when you sleep (if you can) that tomorrow will be the same, but you have to go on. Those who suffer struggle to get through the next minute hour or day ...... and very often no one knows the struggle and fight they put up

Depression does not respect who or what you are, there is no "type" of person. Often there are no physical signs. It can be triggered by major events in a life (not necessarily bad events) or a series of smaller events. It isnt easy to explain what it is, it is different for each person and very often it is not taken seriously by others, dismissed as weak or "pull yourself together". It is hard on the sufferer but also hard on those close to them, who live each day with the fear of whether someone they love and care for will slip back into depression or worse.... very often those carers feel helpless because all they can do is to be there, and that somehow doesnt seem ever enough for someone you love.

I once had it explained to me like this. Imagine you are at the bottom of a deep pit, the air is thick and clinging, you are cold and alone, the only light is is a small flickering light high above but where you are is pitch black, the walls are slippery and you have tried to climb but keep slipping down, you know you have to keep climbing but it gets harder and harder, you are calling out but no one hears and the panic is rising. You are fixed on the light, you know you have a chance so long as the light is there.......... what happens if the light goes out?

Certainly folk are entitled their opinions, personally i find some comments lacking in understanding (at best). My final thought is to send my best wishes to anyone who suffers this curse, there is help to be found please hang in there, and to hope those less understanding never have to experience its effects for themselves or someone they hold dear.

OSB

Very good post osb.

 

[skybluesteve76]

He has a point tho. He has left a family behind who will be living in there darkest hour for the rest of there lives. Two kids who every day will be thinking why and they'll never get the answer.

He has no point what so ever pal. Nobody can judge how bad and desperate one must feel to take ones own life. All rational thoughts must go out the window.

 

[Kuklinski]

I'm so sorry. Cough weirdo cough

I don't think you're weird, strange on occasion, but not weird. Keep taking the medication.

Hmmm.... let me see. A clear case for schizophrenia here Mr Kuklinski.
1st post: caring and sympathetic.
2nd post: Uncaring and unsympathetic.
3rd post: You obviously think you are a judge.
4th post: You now blame your ideas on rumours, trying to deflect your ideas onto others.
5th post: shows you are clearly a first class twat who hero-worships a twisted mass murderer.

I have now blocked your posts. I no longer wish to read pathetic drivel from a twisted moron like yourself. Byeeee!

That's one of the funniest things I've read in a while, I believe you have something to offer on the comedy circuit.

I will not be blocking you or anyone else for that matter, because I happen to believe everybody is entitled to their view and opinion, whether or not I agree with it. I reckon you should have your name changed to Stalin, because you obviously don't agree with free speech.

 

[kg82]

How about people not rising to anything here and keeping a thread titled "Gary Speed dead" about such topic.

 

[Kuklinski]

He has no point what so ever pal. Nobody can judge how bad and desperate one must feel to take ones own life. All rational thoughts must go out the window.

Yeah, no thought for his devastated wife and children, mustn't judge, move along, nothing to see here.

 

[TimRussell]

"What's worse, a guy having a gay affair or the media reporting it"??? Isn't that plainly fucking obvious? What two people get up to in the bedroom is their own business, even if they're married to other people. I remember chatting to a French friend during the John Terry/Wayne Bridge shenanigans & he was baffled that our media would find it remotely newsworthy.

 

[CUS Wyken]

He has no point what so ever pal. Nobody can judge how bad and desperate one must feel to take ones own life. All rational thoughts must go out the window.

Steve I knew 3 people who killed themselves. It's the most tragic way of dieing but the people it hurts and effects the most are the loved ones because they for the rest of there lives will feel what could we have done to prevent this. They will blame themselves for not seeing it happen. That is the truth and I've seen it close hand. People will Remeber Gary speed but will forget his 2 kids and wives who need the support most. It's a shame what happened but I feel sorry for the kids in all this.

 

[BackRoomRummermill]

RIP Gary Speed, you were a decent bloke

 

[Kuklinski]

"What's worse, a guy having a gay affair or the media reporting it"??? Isn't that plainly fucking obvious? What two people get up to in the bedroom is their own business, even if they're married to other people. I remember chatting to a French friend during the John Terry/Wayne Bridge shenanigans & he was baffled that our media would find it remotely newsworthy.

I am baffled by a lot of the stuff reported in the media, TOWIE, Jordan, Cheryl Cole, but there must be a market for it despite I myself having no interest in what these cretins get up to.

I was indifferent about the whole JT/WB thing, it's hardly news is it? Footballer shags another mans wife, wow, breaking news that eh?

 

[ICHAN]

Was not going to post on this but I think it has gone out of the context of the thread and become a slanging match so could it please go back to what it was about and that is just a simple thread about respect for someone who died and the family that has been left behind.
If some want to bitch then by all means carry on but on a diffderant thread please? I take no sides as everyone has an opinion but lets show some respect without the bitching we are all adults after all.

 

[tippex9]

RIP Gary Speed, a gentleman in the game, an example to the modern day footballer and fan.

Football would be a better place if there were more like him on the field and in the stands.

 

[TheParsonsHose]

Remember him being in the Jaguar lounge last year with his son, we said what a great life his son must have, he looked very proud to be there with his father...very sad indeed.

RIP

 

[harvey098]

This subject will always split opinion. I always considered suicide to be a selfish act until I properly understood what really is a horrible disease.

What ever your opinion is on suicide, no one can deny what a top proffesional and all round good bloke Gary Speed was.

I won't get into any arguments with Kuklinski on this thread (although I'd love to). Lets keep it about Gary Speed. RIP.

 

[skybluesteve76]

I don't think you're weird, strange on occasion, but not weird. Keep taking the medication.




That's one of the funniest things I've read in a while, I believe you have something to offer on the comedy circuit.

I will not be blocking you or anyone else for that matter, because I happen to believe everybody is entitled to their view and opinion, whether or not I agree with it. I reckon you should have your name changed to Stalin, because you obviously don't agree with free speech.

Will do thanks.

 

[Kuklinski]

Rest in peace Gary.

 

[skyblu3sk]

Firstly RIP Gary.
Secondly tried to tidy this thread up a bit removing the rumors/jokes but leaving the healthy debate etc. Sorry if anyone is annoyed by it.

 

[Sutty]

Firstly my sympathy and condolences to his wife and children. Truly a shock and so very sad. RIP Gary Speed

I am wary of writing the next bit .... i dont want to create triggers.....

If indeed it was depression, as would seem most likely, then folk need to understand a few things. Depression has nothing to do with being a success or failure, it isnt about being rich or poor, it isnt about being loved or not. It doesnt respect gender, class or colour of skin and when it hits it can debilitate as surely as any other illness. It is not being fed up with your job or not wanting to go to a meeting with an awkward client, nor the latest bad football result. The decision to take own life isnt rational so it isnt selfish (to be selfish is a rational thought), depression robs you of much in life including rational thought. It isnt being sad for a day, it is deep dark locked in misery that can last months or longer.

It isnt about being a coward...... just think about being scared to the pit of your stomach waking each and every day dreading what that day might bring but having to wear a mask of happiness and contentment so you dont hurt those you care about, knowing you need help but unable to ask...... then do that for day after day after day..... knowing when you sleep (if you can) that tomorrow will be the same, but you have to go on. Those who suffer struggle to get through the next minute hour or day ...... and very often no one knows the struggle and fight they put up

Depression does not respect who or what you are, there is no "type" of person. Often there are no physical signs. It can be triggered by major events in a life (not necessarily bad events) or a series of smaller events. It isnt easy to explain what it is, it is different for each person and very often it is not taken seriously by others, dismissed as weak or "pull yourself together". It is hard on the sufferer but also hard on those close to them, who live each day with the fear of whether someone they love and care for will slip back into depression or worse.... very often those carers feel helpless because all they can do is to be there, and that somehow doesnt seem ever enough for someone you love.

I once had it explained to me like this. Imagine you are at the bottom of a deep pit, the air is thick and clinging, you are cold and alone, the only light is is a small flickering light high above but where you are is pitch black, the walls are slippery and you have tried to climb but keep slipping down, you know you have to keep climbing but it gets harder and harder, you are calling out but no one hears and the panic is rising. You are fixed on the light, you know you have a chance so long as the light is there.......... but what happens if the light goes out?

Certainly folk are entitled their opinions, personally i find some comments lacking in understanding (at best). My final thought is to send my best wishes to anyone who suffers this curse, there is help to be found please hang in there, and to hope those less understanding never have to experience its effects for themselves or someone they hold dear.

OSB

My thoughts exactly. Depression is an illness. Committing suicide is not 'selfish', generally it's because of a deepr illness.