idm1975
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So you agree with it?
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skybluedan
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Probably got the idea off here or somewhere
skybluebeduff
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What do we have to lose from it? We've already lost everything else. I don't see why tinfoil hats need making just yet.
idm1975
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Dont think it really matters, its been needed and its now been put out to a wider spectrum of people. For whatever, x file reason, i welcome it.
peeler
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Peeler doesn't go to games at the moment true.
But as I started supporting the city when I was 11 in 1969, only stopped going regularly about 2010
I didn't start regularly going until about 1975, so 23 homes games a season x 35 season + 10 away games x about 20 seasons.
That's a conservative estimate of around a 1000 games, if that doesn't make me a fan then I don't know what does.
Nick
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Yes, some of the parts in there we have known for years.
The question is, why are they doing it? Why now all of a sudden?
Have people thought of the possible outcomes from it? Who is this going to damage more, CCFC or SISU?
As I said earlier, stuff like this is usually followed by something else which is usually bad but people are so worked up about 1 thing they completely miss something else going on.
idm1975
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Take no notice of grendel, everyone knows when he has been to a game because his main retort then is "was you there today!" its nonsense.
idm1975
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Who gives a flying fuck if it gets the vast majority wanting to do something. What in the article dont you agree with?
Nick
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Who gives a flying fuck if it damages CCFC and not SISU? I'd say most of our fans should.
What's that about?
I disagree with aimlessly shouting go go go go all the time. Mainly because it won't do anything. I disagree that it is probably being done for a reason that isn't for the fans, so then it begs the question what's going on?
It just smacks of another Haskell situation, and look what happened then.
dongonzalos
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Is the academy not included in this campaign?
I thought it was about saving the club as whole?
Nick
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I am on about 2 or 3 months ago when people were asking if the telegraph would be doing anything to help and got told it was down to the fans.
People would be very naive to think they have the club at heart and they are solely doing it for that reason.
idm1975
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Nobody is stopping you from sitting on your arse and doing fuck all, thats your choice. A lot people seem to disagree with you though, have you signed the petition?
idm1975
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Do you earn from this forum?
skybluebeduff
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Nick
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Any money from advertising goes towards the server costs, software costs and prediction league prizes. This isn't done for my livelihood...
idm1975
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Just a bit extra on the side to cover the mortgage?
Nick
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The funniest thing is, sitting on my arse and doing fuck all will achieve exactly the same as standing about getting worked up and bouncing off everybody else getting angry.
And yes, I signed it. Not that it will achieve anything, the same as I still get hammered loads of random spammy crap from the last one about saving dolphins and stuff.
Nick
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I wish
I am pretty sure if it was all about making money, I'd be trying my best to please the majority wouldn't I?
SkyBlueZack
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You can see how easy it is for the media to dictate to the masses. Don't ask any questions. Don't look beyond the statement. Just believe what we tell you. Just do as we tell you. And the masses follow.
peeler
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Nick, as you spend all day moderating this forum, what do you do as a living? I'm not trying to make anything of it, I'm just intrigued.
You can just tell me to mind my own business.
Nick
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I work in IT.
idm1975
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If you signed it you must agree with it, so i dont the problem you have
Nick
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The problem I have is the reasoning behind it and what it brings next....
I can understand the trust, whilst I dont agree with a lot of stuff they do or say they do it because of their love for CCFC. People can bang on all they like about Tin Hats etc, but they did when I said about something was happening before the Wasps / Academy stuff broke.
I hope to god I am wrong and it means SISU are going to hand the club over to a fantastic new owner, where I'd happily sit eating humble pie for months on end and apologising for ever doubting. I'd like to be wrong then, the same as being wrong when doubting players and they have a blinder of a game.
peeler
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From home?
I also work in IT, I'm a contractor, my last contract finished at the end of April, so I took the summer off.
Sadly or Joyously depending on your point of view I start a new role on Monday, so you won't see me on here very much during the week.
Nick
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Don't just vanish, people will think you have been taken away like Armybike and Orca...
I couldn't do contracting, the money is much better but I like routine too much and not having to worry about finding a new one!
SkyBlueZack
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Doesn't matter if bad news is about to break nick. It's all sisus fault. All of their own making. Blah blah. Sisu out!!!!!!!!!
idm1975
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But somebody who gets a msg out, that the majority agree with, saying something is surely a good thing? Do you vote in elections?
peeler
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Don't just vanish, people will think you have been taken away like Armybike and Orca...
I couldn't do contracting, the money is much better but I like routine too much and not having to worry about finding a new one!
Armybike is very active trying to convert the nonconvertible on twitter & good on him.
Nick
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You have to look past that, yes I may well be completely off the mark but people need to detach emotions for a minute and their "YEAH SISU OUT AT ALL COSTS" and take a step back and ask some questions.
The same as when a new owner comes in.
It often pays to be very cynical and like I said, if this works and it is happily ever after I'd be the first to admit it and send apologies and a crate of the finest beer to the Telegraph office.
Nick
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Yeah, Extremists do that don't they as well? It is a bit like that sometimes.*
*In the fact it gets a bit like a cult, not that people do bad things.
SkyBlueZack
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They don't care one iota about the club or it's fans. If they did, as already been pointed out, didn't they run a campaign for the academy?Why did they do nonothing about northampton until the very end? They think nothing of this club. All the attention is on sisu killing it while other parties are. What do sisu gain from killing the club? They lose money. What do the other parties gain? Just think about it from different angles, not the way others want you to see it. Particularly media outlets and politicians. I had a conversation/argument with Bob ainsworth the other week. He said no money from the jr will go to my precious club. He also stated if ccfc went bust it would be sad but lufe would go on. I can feel the love for ccfc oozing out of bob.
Hobo
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I wish
I am pretty sure if it was all about making money, I'd be trying my best to please the majority wouldn't I?
Not necessarily Talksport spout loads of crap to churn up controversy...the General public love controversy not the equilibrium of agreement.
In the words of Mrs Merton "lets have a heated debate!"
idm1975
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Every voice matters, and the more we have the louder it is and the louder it is the more we are heard. If the ct has one, and it works for us then brilliant, if it does not at least we have tried to achieve something that we want rather than just letting the inevitable shitfest happen.
Nick
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There would be lots more traffic on here if I was pushing the majority view all of the time wouldn't there?
I post what I do as it is my personal, independant view. If it was just about traffic and stats etc there would be much more if I was hammering the anti SISU stuff.
idm1975
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How much does grendel bung you then? Must be a tidy amount ;-)I wish
I am pretty sure if it was all about making money, I'd be trying my best to please the majority wouldn't I?