Nothing to do with SISU (2 Viewers)

[weecohawena]

Has to be blamed for the formation. We are playing young kids mostly. Make it simple and fearless. A front three of Jones, Agyei and Lameiras/Reid should cause all sorts of problems in this league. Then a midfield three of Bigi, Gadz and Stevenson/Rose isn't too bad. Then the back four should pick itself. Keep it simple.

and if the back four is Kelly Evans Willis Turnbull Stokes, apart from Agyei, they are all our players.

 

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[pastythegreat]

martin was nothing special. stop kissing his arse. we lost loads with him in a back 4.

as for murphy and armstrong you think its easy to find loans like that??? be thankful we got them at all. fans moaned about loans last year so hes brought in long term players like jones and reid and now fans moan about them.

we have terrible uneducated fans.

I'm not kissing anyone's arse! Especially not Aaron Martins, just merely pointing out the FACT that Mowbray trusted him in a back 4 but doesn't think Turnnbull is good enough for a back 4. My point being, why let one go to replace him with anumber inferior player?
Personally I like Turnnbull and think he does a good job but the man who picks the starting 11 doesn't think he's up to the job. Hence making my view stronger. WHY FUCKING SIGN HIM IF YOU DON'T THINK HE'S GOOD ENOUGH??

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[covcity4life]

I'm not kissing anyone's arse! Especially not Aaron Martins, just merely pointing out the FACT that Mowbray trusted him in a back 4 but doesn't think Turnnbull is good enough for a back 4. My point being, why let one go to replace him with anumber inferior player?
Personally I like Turnnbull and think he does a good job but the man who picks the starting 11 doesn't think he's up to the job. Hence making my view stronger. WHY FUCKING SIGN HIM IF YOU DON'T THINK HE'S GOOD ENOUGH??

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you need 2 to tango. i imagine turnball isnt the issue, its his partner

he played 4 last year and obviously now believes that was a mistake. management aint easy, mistakes will be made along the way

 

[pastythegreat]

you need 2 to tango. i imagine turnball isnt the issue, its his partner

he played 4 last year and obviously now believes that was a mistake. management aint easy, mistakes will be made along the way

Again, his partner (Sam rickets) was bought in by Mogga and it's been evident he hasn't been good enough since Reda got injured last season. (Shows how much reda carried him) but again was signed on (by mogga) for another season whilst Martin was let go.

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[covcity4life]

Again, his partner (Sam rickets) was bought in by Mogga and it's been evident he hasn't been good enough since Reda got injured last season. (Shows how much reda carried him) but again was signed on (by mogga) for another season whilst Martin was let go.

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because a shit rickets is still better than martin. also he was kept on for expereince,something all our fans say they want more off

look mowbray has made mistakes but i am seeing alot of hypocrisy here. give the guy a chance,cant blame every lil thing he does.

 

[skybluetony176]

Walsall changed their manager halfway through last season when matey went to manage another club??

And before last season they had a number of seasons with lower mid table mediocrity. Mediocrity that a vocal section of our fan base would have insisted he was sacked for.

 

[Otis]

Changes that make sense?? He has already stated he plays 3 centre halves as our defenders aren't good enough to play a back 4 (safety in numbers almost). Yet last season Martin played that position with a young, inexperienced loan player just fine.
That says to me A.Martin (good enough to play our strongest formation) let go on a free to be replaced by (with a fee paid for) Turnnbull who in Moggas eyes isn't as good as he doesn't trust him in a back 4 formation.
ie he has replaced a player with a player not as strong/experienced/good etc.
And this is just one instance of players leaving and not adequately being replaced.
•Vincelot = Gadshev
•Stokes (ok he not gone but still needed replacing whilst injured) = inexperienced loan (in my eyes no better than haynes)
•Fleck = Bigi (although he's improving every game, like for like they're miles apart)
•Arma = Well, take your pick but they're all garbage.
•Murphy = Reid.
•Cole = Jones
•Maddison = ???? (hasn't been replaced, we have no number 10/playmaker)

Nothing Mogga has done this summer has made any sense AT ALL.

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Bit harsh on Fleck, that. He wasn't that bad.

 

[pastythegreat]

Bit harsh on Fleck, that. He wasn't that bad.

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[oucho]

need to draw attention to this. this is such a BS thing to say

who are we dependent on in this squad? rcc? turnball? bigi? jones? not many other candidates! and certainly no loans thats for sure so far.

It's not BS to say that, just like last season, we are padding our our squad with 6 loanees. TM specifically said last season he'd prefer to have only 1-2, but also that he knew we'd have the maximum quota again.

 

[covcity4life]

It's not BS to say that, just like last season, we are padding our our squad with 6 loanees. TM specifically said last season he'd prefer to have only 1-2, but also that he knew we'd have the maximum quota again.

which loanee are we dependent on?

 

[oucho]

which loanee are we dependent on?

I didn't say we were. I didn't say we were dependent on any particular players. Point I am making as the loan players are just as important to our ability to put out a senior team as they were last season.

 

[covcity4life]

I didn't say we were. I didn't say we were dependent on any particular players. Point I am making as the loan players are just as important to our ability to put out a senior team as they were last season.

He has not cut down on loan dependency - we have the same number as last year. TM last year told me that we've maximum loans again this season. I agree with the OP. Part of the issue is giving Mowbray a 2 year deal, he is trying to put out a team to succeed in the short term not build for the long term, and last season he got lucky in the loans market, this time he hasn't.

we have do not rely on loans for success like we did AA, murphy.

you could say we havnt found good ones, but on flip side maybe TM has beefed up the perma squad so they are not so vital anymore

 

[ccfchoi87]

we have do not rely on loans for success like we did AA, murphy.

you could say we havnt found good ones, but on flip side maybe TM has beefed up the perma squad so they are not so vital anymore

I'd rather a good team relying on loans than a shit team all on permanents

 

[oucho]

we have do not rely on loans for success like we did AA, murphy.

you could say we havnt found good ones, but on flip side maybe TM has beefed up the perma squad so they are not so vital anymore

Yeah, we've really beefed up the squad by replacing JOB, Fleck, Vincelot, Cole, Reda, Martin etc with players of a superior calibre....and you accused me of spouting BS, LOL....have you seen the league table lately?

 

[oucho]

I'd rather a good team relying on loans than a shit team all on permanents

Porlbem with laons is, as with last season, you base your "good team" around them, then they return to their parent club and you have to start all over again. Last season's success, such as it was, was thus built on sand. Nobody wants a shit team either - it's about putting together a strong team based on permanent players.

 

[covcity4life]

Yeah, we've really beefed up the squad by replacing JOB, Fleck, Vincelot, Cole, Reda, Martin etc with players of a superior calibre....and you accused me of spouting BS, LOL....have you seen the league table lately?

why would you even include martin in that list? LMAO

 

[st john]

Yes, continuity is key IMO, and the main reason why we are in this position now , we relied too much on loans last season. I remember Swindon coming to the Ricoh in 2014, and looked the best team in the division. They whacked us 3-0, mostly done with loans, yet last season they struggled. For us, we should have spent last season building a settled team, this is what the 2 year plan so oft spouted, should have been about instead of relying on loans approaching double figures.