Brexit/SISU (27 Viewers)

[Wheelfass]

Triumph Motorcycles Meriden became a workers cooperative with the toolmakers getting the same money as the floor sweepers - 50 quid a week. Tony Benn gave the workers' board millions- last seen heading for the Caribbean. At the end all that was left was the badge.

A bit of anorak trivia perhaps but if you compare them, not even the badge used on the present Triumphs is the same as the old Meriden ones. It's the name that remains.

 

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[Skyblueweeman]

More importantly, Brexit has hit home for me this morning. A friend of mine has just returned from the US on business and as per previous trips, I always ask him to get me a 1 litre bottle of Grey Goose as it's cheaper importing than buying here.

Normally, said 1ltr bottle is £23. Now, after Brexit...£30.

I'm in bits here...


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[Don't know why I bother]

1m votes is nothing though is it???????????
the vote was 52/48 or something. about as even as it gets. this is pretty much the only time that something like this isnt shitting on the british people as they are not ignoring a large majority.

also it seems most leave voters regret their decision so maybe majority is now stay.

Grow up you cockwomble

 

[Sick Boy]

As usual it'll be the poorest and most vulnerable who are hit the hardest, while the rich and the elite who misled and encouraged them to vote for it will carry on as usual.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

As usual it'll be the poorest and most vulnerable who are hit the hardest, while the rich and the elite who misled and encouraged them to vote for it will carry on as usual.

Are you talking about now, or 40 years ago? From where I'm sitting 40 years on, there's no difference!

 

[Sick Boy]

Are you talking about now, or 40 years ago? From where I'm sitting 40 years on, there's no difference!

Living standards have certainly improved in Europe over the last 40 years. The elite from all political sides will continue to exploit ordinary citizens and has little to do with the EU and is the same around the world.

Something needs to change politically to make politicians more accountable and to stop abusing their power. However expecting the likes of David Davis, Liam Werrity-Fox and Boris Johnson to protect and fight for the working classes is deluded

 

[martcov]

A bit of anorak trivia perhaps but if you compare them, not even the badge used on the present Triumphs is the same as the old Meriden ones. It's the name that remains.

The point is the same. Thanks for the correction.

 

[covcity4life]

As usual it'll be the poorest and most vulnerable who are hit the hardest, while the rich and the elite who misled and encouraged them to vote for it will carry on as usual.

Yeh u can say they were mislead but our poor are fucking dumb as fuck too.

Working class didn't used to mean dumb partial right wingers

 

[hopesprings]

great thread for a different forum me thinks..

 

[Sick Boy]

Yeh u can say they were mislead but our poor are fucking dumb as fuck too.

Working class didn't used to mean dumb partial right wingers

It is due to the ever increasing differences between the haves and have nots within our society. There were major social issues in this country which are a result of UK government policies,sadly now rather than addressing them the country will be consumed by Brexit.

It's not surprising that the vast majority of those outside of the UK who speak favourably of Brexit are members of openly far right parties.

 

[covcity4life]

Don't get me wrong. I don't like way country is going. too many faith schools and too much segregation

But it don't look like leave is gonna fix that anyway

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

It is due to the ever increasing differecession between the haves and have nots within our society. There were major social issues in this country which are a result of UK government policies,sadly now rather than addressing them the country will be consumed by Brexit.

It's not surprising that the vast majority of those outside of the UK who speak favourably of Brexit are members of openly far right parties.

Have you "Jumped ship" yet, or still being hamstrung by the Great British shackles?

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Don't get me wrong. I don't like way country is going. too many faith schools and too much segregation

But it don't look like leave is gonna fix that anyway

How do you know that? We've had generations of shit Governance by the EU. Give it a try, you might like it!

 

[martcov]

How do you know that? We've had generations of shit Governance by the EU. Give it a try, you might like it!

Where have you been? The EU doesn't govern us. We have trade rules from the EU, but if, say, we want to bomb brown people, we do it with the USA and the EU has little or no say. To blame the EU for our shit government is really taking the propaganda war to the extreme.

 

[Astute]

Where have you been? The EU doesn't govern us. We have trade rules from the EU, but if, say, we want to bomb brown people, we do it with the USA and the EU has little or no say. To blame the EU for our shit government is really taking the propaganda war to the extreme.

What are brown people?

 

[Sick Boy]

Have you "Jumped ship" yet, or still being hamstrung by the Great British shackles?

I will be leaving the sinking ship in June.

 

[Astute]

I will be leaving the sinking ship in June.

Thought you had already left Italy.

 

[Wheelfass]

Where have you been? The EU doesn't govern us. We have trade rules from the EU, but if, say, we want to bomb brown people, we do it with the USA and the EU has little or no say. To blame the EU for our shit government is really taking the propaganda war to the extreme.

I'll tell you where Sky Blue Kid has been. Like me he's been.......... around a long enough time to know the difference between being in the EU and not being in it.

 

[Sick Boy]

How do you know that? We've had generations of shit Governance by the EU. Give it a try, you might like it!

All of those issues have nothing to do with the EU. It's the perfect excuse of ensuring the government is held accountable for nothing and gets swallowed as the truth by the gullible

 

[Sick Boy]

Thought you had already left Italy.

We'll be better off financially there and be happier. There is more chance of the UK falling apart than the EU and not long until it's 1€ for 1£.

 

[martcov]

What are brown people?

The point was 'if'.

But, we are bombing ISIS and we bombed Iraq. Maybe the Arabs are not brown enough, but the exact colour is not the point. We can bomb virtually any colour people - as long as they are not EU - and the EU has little or no say. Do you dispute that?

 

[Astute]

We'll be better off financially there and be happier. There is more chance of the UK falling apart than the EU and not long until it's 1€ for 1£.

Time will tell. But I can see the EU disintegrating

 

[martcov]

I'll tell you where Sky Blue Kid has been. Like me he's been.......... around a long enough time to know the difference between being in the EU and not being in it.

Me too...

 

[Sick Boy]

Time will tell. But I can see the EU disintegrating

Personally I think it'll grow stronger over time once Britain is out. What sort of timeframe are you thinking?

 

[covcity4life]

How do you know that? We've had generations of shit Governance by the EU. Give it a try, you might like it!

I know I like money in my bank though so less of it ain't way forward

 

[Brylowes]

Are you talking about now, or 40 years ago? From where I'm sitting 40 years on, there's no difference!

Yes there is, as I said earlier 40 years ago the working class were exactly that 'working"
Since the shift towards financial services the working class have been sacrificed.
Now we have a massive underclass who are kept in a docile, ignorant, vegetative state
By being fed endless supplies of (cheap as chips) supermarket alcohol and easily grown
At home super strength weed, the elite will never have to co-habit with these people but
We have to.
I would say the ruling classes now have the *working class* exactly where they want
Them, while the right wing media have done such a good job that it's the poor that get
The blame, even off the poor.
E.g. Single mum of 7 on benefits is given 4 bedroom house in Grimsby, is given the
Front page of national newspapers and creates uproar and disgust among working
Classes.
Multi millionaire pop star Gary Barlow and Multi millionaire comedian Jimmy Carr
(among Many others) are caught red handed avoiding paying their lawful taxes,
And the general attitude is "you'd do it if you could" and their reputation isn't even
Slightly tarnished.
This country is truly fucked. IMHO

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Where have you been? The EU doesn't govern us. We have trade rules from the EU, but if, say, we want to bomb brown people, we do it with the USA and the EU has little or no say. To blame the EU for our shit government is really taking the propaganda war to the extreme.

Yes there is, as I said earlier 40 years ago the working class were exactly that 'working"
Since the shift towards financial services the working class have been sacrificed.
Now we have a massive underclass who are kept in a docile, ignorant, vegetative state
By being fed endless supplies of (cheap as chips) supermarket alcohol and easily grown
At home super strength weed, the elite will never have to co-habit with these people but
We have to.
I would say the ruling classes now have the *working class* exactly where they want
Them, while the right wing media have done such a good job that it's the poor that get
The blame, even off the poor.
E.g. Single mum of 7 on benefits is given 4 bedroom house in Grimsby, is given the
Front page of national newspapers and creates uproar and disgust among working
Classes.
Multi millionaire pop star Gary Barlow and Multi millionaire comedian Jimmy Carr
(among Many others) are caught red handed avoiding paying their lawful taxes,
And the general attitude is "you'd do it if you could" and their reputation isn't even
Slightly tarnished.
This country is truly fucked. IMHO

I was actually refering to the "Elite" and there being no difference how the poor are treated today opposed to 40 years ago. They are still s**t on.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

I was actually refering to the "Elite" and there being no difference how the poor are treated today opposed to 40 years ago. They are still s**t on.

It still doesn't give creedence to the Euro Eliteists. I'm sure Britain will prosper under "Own Rule" and have a great relationship with the rest of the Economic World as well as the EU.

 

[martcov]

It still doesn't give creedence to the Euro Eliteists. I'm sure Britain will prosper under "Own Rule" and have a great relationship with the rest of the Economic World as well as the EU.

Well, maybe Britain will, maybe not. Our elite from Eton and the likes of Dulwich College, plus certain newspaper owners will certainly prosper. They obviously don't like the EU as it challenges their status by e.g. guaranteeing equal rights and workers' rights.

 

[Brylowes]

I was actually refering to the "Elite" and there being no difference how the poor are treated today opposed to 40 years ago. They are still s**t on.

40 years ago I was 7 and attended st Giles school in Bedworth, my Dad was
a maintenance foreman at the standard in canley, my mum worked at Britvic
On bayton Rd. My classmates parents worked at numerous places such as
RRoyce, Courtaulds, Jaguar, Lenton & Brey, Herbert's among many others,
But everyone worked and paid their way.
If you went too the same school today, took a random 7 year old and asked
The same question,I think the results would be very very different .

 

[chiefdave]

So 17,410,000 voters are WRONG!... OK.

33,946,026 didn't vote leave
Total mess, rushed into by Cameron without thinking through possible scenarios as he just assumed it would be an easy 'win' for remain.

 

[Don't know why I bother]

We'll be better off financially there and be happier. There is more chance of the UK falling apart than the EU and not long until it's 1€ for 1£.

Are you for real? Itlay is another Greece in the making. The economy is in free fall and the Euro is dragging in down the pan. Good luck with your move because you're going to need it!

 

[martcov]

40 years ago I was 7 and attended st Giles school in Bedworth, my Dad was
a maintenance foreman at the standard in canley, my mum worked at Britvic
On bayton Rd. My classmates parents worked at numerous places such as
RRoyce, Courtaulds, Jaguar, Lenton & Brey, Herbert's among many others,
But everyone worked and paid their way.
If you went too the same school today, took a random 7 year old and asked
The same question,I think the results would be very very different .

My father was Rootes and my mother started work at the Standard as a secretary. Rootes was screwed because of Linwood and bought by Chrysler. Then came strike after strike - including sabotage of the production line. Chrysler offered to sell the whole lot to the Labour government for 10 quid. An example of shit government- nothing to do with the EU. What a mess.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

I've made friends with posters on here, and I won't be falling out over politics, religion or the colour of someones skin, so on this... I'm out!

 

[Brylowes]

I've made friends with posters on here, and I won't be falling out over politics, religion or the colour of someones skin, so on this... I'm out!

I bet you can't count the friends you've made on here on the
three fingers on your left hand.