italiahorse
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Great game today then ?
On the cheap (4 Viewers)
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stupot07
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2 of those are conferencing and events which we don't have because we don't run a stadium, and 2 of them are photographers.
Attendance means nothing, you don't need an additional accountant because you have more fans. Let's tall finance, walsalls last account they had a turnover of £6.7m, our last set of accounts showed us to have a turnover of just £4.7m. Perhaps with a turnover 40% higher than ours mean they need 33% more background staff...
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hill83
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People aren't attacking the club. Well I'm not. I'm attacking Sisus investment/management of the club which in turn has created a shambles. It is in no way my friends or any of his colleagues fault. And neither am I saying it's a fault of 'the club' whatever that means these days.
stupot07
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italiahorse
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The club is what Sisu want it to be.
With no interest in the club and running 'breakeven' means we are in a downward spiral.
With no interest in the club and running 'breakeven' means we are in a downward spiral.
ccfcway
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running breakeven doesn't automatically mean we are in a downward spiral. We are top half of ;league one budget, today spanked by a league 2 club.
Surely we should be running break even ?. Its more about employing the right people, in the right positions and trying to compete. That's the bit we are lacking
Nick
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And the communication to make the best of a break even situation situation.
Skybluesince82
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We do conferencing and events: stuff is starting to take place at BPA, business networking breakfasts to name a couple. IMO it doesn't matter if two of them are photographers, that is all part of a media and communications team. Photography and video is done by the listed communications team at ccfc, which highlights that Walsall have a better back office infrastructure because they have specialists, rather than getting someone to do it as part of a different job. Goes back to the original post and point about stuff being done on the cheap.
Whilst you are right in principle, do many teams that are operating on a break even basis get promoted- and stay up more than 2 or 3 years? ( serious question as I don't know ).
We were given Yeovil as an example by Tim a couple of years ago. They got up with a budget of 2 million. All gone quiet over there now. Where is Yeovil in the league now?
italiahorse
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Whats the point of owning a club if you don't want to put some money in it ?
Most clubs rely on their owners to waste a little money.
We have poor owners, poor management and now the resultant poor players.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Not gonna happen is it when people have families to feed and lives to live.
ccfcway
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where are Bournemouth, Burton, Swansea et al
No offence to them, but we are a bigger club than Yeovil
Moff
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You mean like you did two days ago, saying you didn't mind SISU staying as long as they signed a long term deal at the Ricoh.
Hypocrite.
letsallsingtogether
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And now he has got the facts what?
Utter bollocks Nick stay in your cocoon.
Might be alright when you next emerge.
letsallsingtogether
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We are a bigger club then Bournemouth, Burton and Swansea as well.
Funny but they have all had some of our best players on the cheap.
stupot07
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Which of our best players have Swansea and Burton had on the cheap? I honestly can't remember selling a player to either club?
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georgehudson
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Toot toot !! Here come the Billy Bullshit Brigade again.
Get fucking real, after 8+ years of being shafted, CCFC real fans have had enough of these parasitical items
Get fucking real, after 8+ years of being shafted, CCFC real fans have had enough of these parasitical items
Sky Blue Harry H
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So - do we think MV will step down/back up to the boardroom and vacate the manager's post? perhaps TF will run the team (for free) until January, or should that say 'ruin it for free' !
Terry Gibson's perm
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No I think he will hang on as long as he can, I can't see a new manager bring brought in before the window closes as they will want to spend some of the money they bring in during the January sales and I can't see that being in the plans.
Terry Gibson's perm
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Tudgay coaches the strikers that's going well:banghead:
Grendel
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Bournmouth paid one loan player £30k a week in the championship as an emergency loan signing. Yeah we are bigger than them,
My question was whether clubs with a break even structure- without equity injection- got promotions. Yeovil was an example. Bournemouth and Swansea probably not.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Wonderful how you always quote figures from other teams when you want to deflect attention from SISU.
It's almost as if you're on a crusade,
italiahorse
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Never even thought of Sisu when I said that. It was all about what was best for the clubs survival.
More chance of someone taking over once we are settled with a long term deal.
Never said I didn't mind Sisu. Again you have missed my point.
robbiekeane
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Yeh great idea. it's really tight financially which is having some negative effect on the club....so let's reduce revenues to the club
trondegilsoltvedt97
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Mine didn't turn up (well not mine but you know what I mean) and I contacted [email protected] and they sorted it out for me. Hope it helps!
trondegilsoltvedt97
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It's really worrying. Less staff, more work is not good at all for them or us who want to see the club improve on and off the field.
I've always found the day to day staff hard working and decent guys, so I wish them the best, it must be tough day to day with the negativity towards the owners - especially if they're fans too.
I've always found the day to day staff hard working and decent guys, so I wish them the best, it must be tough day to day with the negativity towards the owners - especially if they're fans too.
Irish Sky Blue
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I would bet that the infrastructure at Forest Green, Tranmere and Wrexham is all on a more professional level than ours which is sort of the point he was making. Do you disagree with the central point of his post?
Irish Sky Blue
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What about actually trying to increase turnover so that the break even figure is higher. How about starting that that process by not alienating the fan base, by actual genuine engagement with them rather than continual lies and misinformation. The problem with Sisu's model is that the break even figure will decrease season on season due to their incompetence and mismanagement.
dongonzalos
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Oh Stu, not everything is fans dramatising you know
skybluetony176
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We are a bigger club than them. They have owners willing to put money in so they spiral up whereas we have owners who aren't so we're spiralling down. That's the difference.
italiahorse
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Spot on
Moff
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I didn't miss your point. I asked for clarification that you were happy for us to sign a long term deal at the Ricoh and this is what you replied,
Seems to me you were advocating SISU stay and sign a long term Ricoh deal. I think you said you wanted what best benefits SISU
Perhaps we will have yet another opinion tomorrow.
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