Stevenson Red v Rojo yellow (3 Viewers)
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee
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Thing that worries me from comments from some folk on here, according to them if we had players who put challenges in like Rojo's and Aguero's, it's the answer to pushing up the league...
Sky Blue Kid
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I don't think for a second people are saying break some fookers leg. There's a massive difference between going in hard and going in dirty. Always go in hard but clean and let them know you're there.
georgehudson
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Stevenson's challenge was a yellow @ worst, Rojo's a straight red, interestingly I was listening to a European football correspondent & in both Germany & France the referees retrospectively view, talk, & if necessary act upon decisions made.
Definitely something that should happen in the UK.
Definitely something that should happen in the UK.
Gint11
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Both Aguero and Rojos tackles were leg breakers, potential career ending tackles. Luiz and the Everton player are fortunate to get up after on both. Really infuriates me tackles like that. There is no need for them. Regarding City, what we are lacking is steel or bite that you need in League 1. Unfortunately this is a end product from having academy youngsters in your team. If you put your Under 14s out against men, you are not going to get much fight are you?
Nick
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Not sure, Sunday league you can have 17 or 18 year olds mixing it up with 30 year olds.
Dimi_Konstantflapalot
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Yeah it’s more the niggly things, the ‘dark arts of the game’ as TM called them that we lack experience in. Things like one of our CMs making a professional foul around our centre circle area-ish if an oppo player is driving forward and has a clear run at our defence, little kicks when jockeying/shadowing an oppo player, a few words after a tackle – that sort of thing. 50/50s are important of course but it’s the less noticeable things, of which some I just described, that we are crap at.
Warwickhunt
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the difference between ROJO and Stevenson tackle is the player that rolls around in agony influences the verdict if you ask me The Rojo tackled all be it both of ROJO's legs hit him on the thigh he got up straight away! Stevenson guy did not actually get touched by him it was more like an exagerated leap to get out of the way and then rolled over 3 times the trainer spent a couple of minutes just to drive home the message to the ref, how he got up without limping
Liquid Gold
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Really annoyed me that whole incident, 1 if the Everton player had rolled around Rojo would have been sent off, refs obviously base their decisions on the reaction of the players which encourage histrionics 2 because he was booked for it there will be no further action, the FA/PL should have the balls to say the ref got it wrong, was a terrible tackle and he should get a ban for it.
covcity4life
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all dangerous tackles should be a red
stevensons included
stevensons included
Liquid Gold
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I've got a particularly dangerous tackle that's going a strange reddy colour
Gint11
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Indeed Nick. I was one of them. I broke into my senior team at 16. I had to learn the hard way how to be stronger and ' mix it' to make a difference in games. I was never a tackler but I had to learn to barge where I can, be stronger when on the ball and never ever shirk a challenge or a 50/50 or a header in the air. Problem is, we have lads coming through with hair bands, pink boots and egos. Some of these lads have been wrapped up in cotton wool fuelled bubble. A lot of lads who play Sunday league are more street wise at times, more up for the battle. I'm not stereotyping, of course thats not everyone but thats how I found it in my own experiences.
Nick
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That's the thing isn't it, even nowadays in Sunday league you see the lads who have their colourful boots etc and it was always so easy to put them out of the game. They might be skillfull and can catch the ball on their neck after spinning 50 times etc, but you stand on their feet, kick their back leg away when the ref isnt looking, tell them they are shit and most of the time it works.
I remember playing against some horrible bastards, was one who would grab bollocks everytime you went for a header. It was either don't challenge him or get your elbow in early, nowadays the kids would be shitting themselves.
It doesn't matter about age, teach them the dark arts from teenagers instead of diving.
Also, get them playing 5 aside, they were just brawls masked with a football match most of the time.
Why not have the team toughen up a bit? Not being funny but agyei for example is a unit, yet he stands with his arms in his sleeves and the wind blows him off the ball.
There's no aggression at all.
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Gint11
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Exactly, Aggression in the right way is what we need for League 1. We need it from the manager as well. Every post match "yeah we have youngsters against men but we move on to the next game". No Venus, don't brush it off. Its shit. Sort it or fook off. We almost need a Roy Keane type in the club who just tells everyone if its shit and actually attempts to sort it. Too much pussyfooting going on. Tell it how it is. If a player has started shit on a saturday afternoon take the fucker off. These lads earn good money. Desire, effort and commitment are MINIMUM.
lifeskyblue
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Am not advocating players being dirty but yes some (perhaps most) in the current squad need to toughened up. Too often we have been bullied off the ball this season by average but physical players. Football always has been about more than pure football talent and skill...just think what Curtis and kilcline and others have given to the team over the years, hard as nails but real leaders of men too. also look at skilful players like Hutchinson who had all the finesse and tricks but never flinched and could look after himself.
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Plus it tells all our opposition exactly how to beat us. The difference in Oxford tactics a few weeks after we passed them off the park was obvious; they stood over every one of our free-kicks so they could re-group and not one Cov player tried to stop them.
The likes of O'Brien and Vincelot used to be our 'enforcers'. Not only haven't we replaced them, but TM/MV have gone out of their way not to. :blackeye:
lifeskyblue
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We should bring back Big Mo as a coach. He'd soon get them sorted out! I certainly wouldn't not do anything he told me too anyway, the big fucka
Haha. I'd still play him. Can't be 'softer' than we have. And anyone shirking on the pitch he could have 'a quiet word'.
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Gazolba
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The most ridiculous argument I have heard. Maybe egos affect your play somewhat, but hairstyles and the colour of your boots has no bearing on your play whatsoever. Next you'll be saying players in pink shirts must be gay! Well there are several top teams in Serie A who play in pink shirts every week.
sw88
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To be fair, coloured boots should be banned unless you're world class!
Gint11
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I'm merely pointing out that some young pros are wrapped in cotton wool at clubs. That's my opinion, if you don't like it, go forth sunshine
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Nick
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Don't think it's about being gay or not.
It describes some players to a tee, the fact you get it in Sunday league with headbands and bright boots and they walk about thinking they play for Barca or something sums up their attitude.
Same as the teams who have full matching tracksuits with initials, proper drills before a match (not just hammering the ball at the keeper for 5 minutes) and then still get hammered by a few half cut players who have to stop for a beer at half time.