standupforcity
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A little encouragement for all the doubters out there!
Barnsley 26.12.15.....21 points, GD -10 (7 Viewers)
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score
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Yeah we're definitely going up.
Suffolk sky blues
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Happy Christmas
robbiekeane
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Anything is possible
no_loyalty
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score
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Point being, it isn't all over yet. May be a massive ask and no doubt a big change in form/commitment is required. But it is achievable. Feb/march will be a good time to see what is possible. I personally think the players we have should be doing better let's hope RS can make us perform. Also add some decent and lose the crap
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stupot07
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Otis
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Err... Isn't the difference that Barnsley had good players and we haven't?
There are great big massive holes in our squad and real problem areas.
We have two average keepers. We have a leaky defence. We are very thin in midfield and we are shot shy up front.
Add to that, that we have next to no physicality and little experience and it just highlights how big our problems are.
Slade (Spade) has to do some really astute wheeling and dealing in January to get us into a decent side.
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rupert_bear
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But is it our goalies are average or could they be better if our defence was above average ?
Houchens Head
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My fear is, that if we do get success with Russell (Noddy) Slade, Sisu will want to stay! Can't bloody win eh! :arghh:
standupforcity
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All the things that were wrong and not working at Barnsley, hence their position and GD...a false position brought about by unmotivated players at the time. Get our lot motivated and it'll be a different story...
Otis
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Otis
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Maybe. Or maybe they just aren't good enough.
You can't make players more physical if it's not in their make up. You can't turn poor players into good players.
Guess the question is, are we underperforming or are the players just not good enough?
Venus said it was very much the latter.
standupforcity
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Well Otis...I think they're under performing. What does Venus know! Also energy, brought about by motivation, is what produces physicality. I'm hopeful....
AVWskyblue
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Otis I really believe it's a bit of both some players aren't good enough or ready for first team football, but the rest I think with proper man management the rest could well improve by 50% or more. I said last year we need somebody who can psychologically motivate the players but as usual I got ridiculed by a fair few on hear
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Otis
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Okay..... Here's a question then 
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Who DO we think is good enough out of this squad?
McCann (but is leaving).
Sordell
Ermm.... starting to struggle a bit after that.
We have a lot of distinctly average players (Turnbull, Rose, Reid, DKE, Lameiras, RCC, Burge) and then the likes of the very inconsistent Bigi.
Willis is good enough for League One, but I think then it is a struggle to come up with names.
.....Who DO we think is good enough out of this squad?
McCann (but is leaving).
Sordell
Ermm.... starting to struggle a bit after that.
We have a lot of distinctly average players (Turnbull, Rose, Reid, DKE, Lameiras, RCC, Burge) and then the likes of the very inconsistent Bigi.
Willis is good enough for League One, but I think then it is a struggle to come up with names.
standupforcity
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Non of us have seen these players motivated yet....Okay..... Here's a question then
Who DO we think is good enough out of this squad?
McCann (but is leaving).
Sordell
Ermm.... starting to struggle a bit after that.
We have a lot of distinctly average players (Turnbull, Rose, Reid, DKE, Lameiras, RCC, Burge) and then the likes of the very inconsistent Bigi.
Willis is good enough for League One, but I think then it is a struggle to come up with names.
stupot07
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These things happen once in a blue moon, whilst it is not impossible, it is highly improbable. We need to concentrate in getting safe first.
If we take 74 as the magic 6th place marker, thats 55 points needed from 24 game (2.3 points per game - 105 over a 46 game season). We can probably afford to lose 3 more games this season, I'd also had Barnsley were 3 points ahead of us at this stage last season, so if we put an identical run together we will be 2 shy of their target.
They also won the 2 festive games so on 2nd Jan they had 27 points.
Bristol rovers is a tough game away, then we have Bolton at home, even if we get reinforcements in before Bolton its unlikely we will come out with back to back victories despite thr new manager bounce.
A lot will be down to recruitment, but there's a big difference between turning us around and getting us safe then putting together league winning form for the remainder of the season.
Let's stop the rot first, pull ourselves out of the relegation zone into safety and see where we are at the end of Feb. This thread is far too premature.
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If we take 74 as the magic 6th place marker, thats 55 points needed from 24 game (2.3 points per game - 105 over a 46 game season). We can probably afford to lose 3 more games this season, I'd also had Barnsley were 3 points ahead of us at this stage last season, so if we put an identical run together we will be 2 shy of their target.
They also won the 2 festive games so on 2nd Jan they had 27 points.
Bristol rovers is a tough game away, then we have Bolton at home, even if we get reinforcements in before Bolton its unlikely we will come out with back to back victories despite thr new manager bounce.
A lot will be down to recruitment, but there's a big difference between turning us around and getting us safe then putting together league winning form for the remainder of the season.
Let's stop the rot first, pull ourselves out of the relegation zone into safety and see where we are at the end of Feb. This thread is far too premature.
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lifeskyblue
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We can all dream but I will honestly think slade has done a good job if he turns us around and we finish outside the bottom 4. I think a midtable finish is the best we can do
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SkyBlue_Bear83
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Good enough for what? If we're talking about good enough to just keep us up, then I think with the right management they can be good enough.Okay..... Here's a question then
Who DO we think is good enough out of this squad?
McCann (but is leaving).
Sordell
Ermm.... starting to struggle a bit after that.
We have a lot of distinctly average players (Turnbull, Rose, Reid, DKE, Lameiras, RCC, Burge) and then the likes of the very inconsistent Bigi.
Willis is good enough for League One, but I think then it is a struggle to come up with names.
Otis
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Good enough for League One. Venus said we were not good enough for League One, so that's my question.
st john
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Most of those players are good enough for L1 IMO if they were playing in a good well balanced team. I still think we are only short of 3 or 4 good players in the right positions to produce a team which could have made the playoffs if put together at the start of the seasonOkay..... Here's a question then
Who DO we think is good enough out of this squad?
McCann (but is leaving).
Sordell
Ermm.... starting to struggle a bit after that.
We have a lot of distinctly average players (Turnbull, Rose, Reid, DKE, Lameiras, RCC, Burge) and then the likes of the very inconsistent Bigi.
Willis is good enough for League One, but I think then it is a struggle to come up with names.
standupforcity
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I repeat...what does Venus know?!!
Otis
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Oh dear, then. He's still at the club and still in charge of transfers and bringing players to the club isn't he?
God save our souls.
standupforcity
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Sadly yes...but things are a helluva lot healthier than 48 hours ago....
skybluebeduff
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Do you want to compare their squad to ours?
That should take the encouragement right from you.
Daft to even attempt to compare ours to theirs.
standupforcity
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So you're saying they had a much stronger squad... and yet were in the same position we are. What makes a stronger squad? A more successful one? So what would that make our squad if were successful? Would they suddenly become a much stronger squad? Listen I'm not setting up an argument here, but it seems unlikely to me that this time last year people were calling Barnsley a strong squad....so I'm interested to see what happens next under Slade....
Nick
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Is that a riddle? As it's done my brain in.
standupforcity
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Mine too Nick...but I posted it anyway...
covcity4life
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Usual suspects not ubderstanding the thread as usual and being sarcastic
Hes not saying we are going up. Hes saying stranger things have happened so can always dream
Hes not saying we are going up. Hes saying stranger things have happened so can always dream
Skyblueweeman
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The thing is Otis, didn't we have one of the best defensive records in the division after 10 or so games? I seem to recall pointing something like that out.
If that's the case, maybe a better manager might get better results with what we have. I know it's not 100% comparable but look at the likes of Hazard and Moses prospering under Conte at Chelsea.
Fingers crossed that Slade turns Bigi into a world beater just to see G go into meltdown!
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