Astute
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And if we then won the Championship and then the Prem like Leicester would you say thank you to Fisher and Joy?
Home is Where the Heart Is (14 Viewers)
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All I'm saying is there wasn't much sisu out going on when we were top
Brylowes
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What"
You mean some of you aren't.
Quaint you taking your parents and your father in law, I bet you get them a hot chocolate at half time?
Twisted barrel actuallyA lot harder to go when your peer group stop going.
Mind you, if/when (i.e. not under these ownersbut that's because of inept club management rather than principle) we start winning again, sure a lot of us will be back.
It's the endless circle mind, where a small, small minority think they speak for everybody when it comes to NOPM being the reason for people not going, and I thought better of the OP than to give them as much credence as he seems to. The best thing the rest of us, if we go or not, could do is to recognise it's a (very!) small number who are actively boycotting. Of those, I'm pretty sure some of them just use it as an excuse because for some bizarre reason they're too ashamed to admit they'd rather sit around in their pants drinking the latest BrewDog beers while watching Lizard Lick Towing on Dave.
Brylowes
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You have to feel sorry for them don't you, they're in their 80s and the only Thing
left is the Sky Blues, they've followed them all their lives thru thick 'n' thin.
And now the highlight of their week is watching CCFC playing awful football in
a Nearly empty stadium, they will never own. And as if that were not enough,
the cruelest Blow of all, they have to sit next to Grendel.
Kingokings204
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Think he meant covman mate
dongonzalos
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28k saying to any future owners this is what's waiting if you show you care for the club.
Astute
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And now they have broken the promises made about using 60% of income and transfer fees received we should ignore that fact and continue to go in large numbers knowing that they are about to sell our training ground and give us the worse football and be at the bottom of Division 3 which is lower than most of us have ever known because for half a season we did well in Division 3?
Brylowes
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Don't worry about it mate, he treats most fellow fans with contempt.
I agree with you, all I asked is would it be different if we returned to the top
Astute
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Just ignore him. He seems to think that his job is to wind people up who refuse to blame anyone but SISU for what is happening to our club.
Astute
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Of course it would be. It would mean that we would be winning games and not losing to just about every club we play. A lot of the doom and gloom would be lifted. We would have something to look forward to other than Fisher's deluded rants.
Calista
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I wouldn’t refuse to buy tickets as a way of trying to get rid of SISU, because I agree with Grendel (and others) that it is not going to work, and harms the football club.
However, I go less and less often, simply because it’s not a good way to spend an afternoon or an evening. I know young people who used to follow the team obsessively, but have completely lost the desire, and who can blame them? The posts on this thread by Otis and Senior Vic say it all, it’s bloody heartbreaking.
For me personally, the deal that makes me loyal to CCFC has been broken. The football club does everything it can to compete and try and win things, to entertain me, to inspire me with its plans for the team, and as a supporter I keep the faith and follow them through thick and thin. The current Chairman is actually promising not to fulfill the club’s half of the bargain, by slavishly implementing what he himself calls a “terrible model”. What an inspiration that man is. It’s a self-inflicted downward spiral on the club’s part, and it’s tragic that all we can do as fans is watch it happen. I hope 2017 brings us all something we can cheer.
However, I go less and less often, simply because it’s not a good way to spend an afternoon or an evening. I know young people who used to follow the team obsessively, but have completely lost the desire, and who can blame them? The posts on this thread by Otis and Senior Vic say it all, it’s bloody heartbreaking.
For me personally, the deal that makes me loyal to CCFC has been broken. The football club does everything it can to compete and try and win things, to entertain me, to inspire me with its plans for the team, and as a supporter I keep the faith and follow them through thick and thin. The current Chairman is actually promising not to fulfill the club’s half of the bargain, by slavishly implementing what he himself calls a “terrible model”. What an inspiration that man is. It’s a self-inflicted downward spiral on the club’s part, and it’s tragic that all we can do as fans is watch it happen. I hope 2017 brings us all something we can cheer.
Grendel
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Actually all my parents and in laws are dead but good post
This forlorn thread reminds me of that image of Canute sitting on his throne telling his courtiers:
"Cov fans will keep coming. It doesn't matter what we do, move the club, alienate everybody, field a team of apprentices, talk bullshit, lie compulsively, etc. but they'll still roll up like waves on the foreshore..."
"Cov fans will keep coming. It doesn't matter what we do, move the club, alienate everybody, field a team of apprentices, talk bullshit, lie compulsively, etc. but they'll still roll up like waves on the foreshore..."
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I've come back from the pub, and similarly with Sky Blue Dan and his stoned perspective, it is easy to read through some of this and struggle to stop wetting yourself with laughter.
On reflection though, it's a really sad sign of how we've fallen. People are at each others necks because there is nowhere else to go. The common enemy is Sisu, but we can't see them, they're hidden to us, and we've all turned on each other.
Originally I mentioned filling the stadium for one game would be a potentially good idea, and this has been echoed by Otis and Nick tonight who have put their points across well. However, the sad thing is, pack the stadium or desert the stadium, turn up, or boycott. It doesn't seem like there is a correct solution that'll solve this.
We are in for an even shitter ride, and unlike a lot of clubs (relegation happens too), I feel our fate is terminal. Especially following Fisher's comments recently, it's like we're trapped and there's no way out. It's going to get worse from here.
From this I'd say the plug is either pulled, or something radical attempted. That Sheffield United protest filled me with a bit of fight, so maybe that's the right way to go?
On reflection though, it's a really sad sign of how we've fallen. People are at each others necks because there is nowhere else to go. The common enemy is Sisu, but we can't see them, they're hidden to us, and we've all turned on each other.
Originally I mentioned filling the stadium for one game would be a potentially good idea, and this has been echoed by Otis and Nick tonight who have put their points across well. However, the sad thing is, pack the stadium or desert the stadium, turn up, or boycott. It doesn't seem like there is a correct solution that'll solve this.
We are in for an even shitter ride, and unlike a lot of clubs (relegation happens too), I feel our fate is terminal. Especially following Fisher's comments recently, it's like we're trapped and there's no way out. It's going to get worse from here
. From this I'd say the plug is either pulled, or something radical attempted. That Sheffield United protest filled me with a bit of fight, so maybe that's the right way to go?
letsallsingtogether
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Nothing wrong with that I have always been a little deranged
Must be to still go up the City
ccfc92
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Probably one of the most reasonable, tolerant and understanding posts on SBT ever
chickentikkamasala
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The same as the ones that are named and shamed for not buying? :banghead:
Your reply Grendel? or did you miss this post when you replied later?
Did you miss this one too? here to help
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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I rest my case.
Alan Dugdales Moustache
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We know the potential support is there, so do SISU, so does Tim Fisher. This idea has been banded about before. How on earth are you going to persuade another 10,000 plus to go to a game as a one off and to prove what exactly ?
singers_pore
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Great. Thanks for that. What's your next thread going to be about?
People don't go if they don't want to.
People eat when they are hungry.
People get into a car when they want to go somewhere.
Your posts are becoming more and more insightful all the time. Keep up the good work.
singers_pore
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The Gillingham and Crewe games already showed the potential support is there. There's no way we can fill the Ricoh under present conditions so we may as well bin that idea.
Nick
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Isn't it Covman rather than Covfan?
torchomatic
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Oh sorry! Bit early for me!
Astute
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Not really.
How about going for the last game of the season? We could celebrate relegation :shifty: Would certainly hit the headlines. 'Football club has ground full for the last game of the season after spending most of the season not having enough to fill one stand' Or 'Relegated CCFC supporters fill their ground and demonstrate all the way through the last game of the season. Chairman Fisher says that they are all banned after doing a pitch invasion after the game'
fernandopartridge
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What potential? One off games mean very little, even less so when the tickets are a fiver a pop.
torchomatic
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I don't think they're a reliable yardstick. Attendance dropped 16K for the game after Gillingham.
covcity4life
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dont really understand the point though grendel
my facebook is full of people who i know for a fact had season tickets and now are firmly in NOPM camp.
they believe that putting money into club is just prolonging sisu stay
as i said in another thread i can understand both points of view and with no light at end of tunnell currently looks like we are down to relying on 80 year old fans. not ideal
my facebook is full of people who i know for a fact had season tickets and now are firmly in NOPM camp.
they believe that putting money into club is just prolonging sisu stay
as i said in another thread i can understand both points of view and with no light at end of tunnell currently looks like we are down to relying on 80 year old fans. not ideal
skybluetony176
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Tend to agree with this. Any potential new owner worth their salt will be looking at consistency to gauge potential but that's still quite impressive. Look at how the crowds were building last season when we had some hope, look at our average gates in the championship when we had some hope. I can't believe that any potential new owners can't see the what's possible with the fan base so long as they can deliver some hope. There's no reason to think that we couldn't fill the Ricoh week in week out should we ever return to the premier league or maybe even with a serious bid for automatic promotion from the championship to the premier league. Hell, I'd be willing to bet that even in this league under new owners if we were top two after Xmas and looking like we'd remain their we'd piss 20+ K every home game. Showing a potential fan base isn't an issue. The issue is getting owners who can nurture that potential.
trevelfarandwide
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People who still go to matches out of habit will defend such a habit aggressively, I find; it's not anything to with awareness of the club's climate, the detritus it's in, or the oblivion it's heading for - it's simply a habit, almost muscle memory, a form of repetitive comfort (yeah I know, I said COMFORT, huge lolz and roflz).
Fair enough, to whoever gleans a semblance of enjoyment from attending matches at a stadium we don't own, watching a frail, wafer-thin team lose 7 matches on the bounce and be ensconced 2nd bottom in the table, and completely ignoring the parasitic owners fire-saleing everything from the fine china, to players, to the fucking training ground.
I, however, cannot. I don't ascribe to NOPM. I much prefer to see the entire CCFC picture as one that does not deserve financing because: A. The club is pretty much fucked, in every sense and B. We are financing the prolonging of SISU's stranglehold.
Die with dignity, or die in a puddle of piss and shit, with no organs left and having been battered horribly, for 7 years. CCFC is dead without a takeover. L2? We'll be lucky to get to play in L-fucking-2 at this rate...
Fair enough, to whoever gleans a semblance of enjoyment from attending matches at a stadium we don't own, watching a frail, wafer-thin team lose 7 matches on the bounce and be ensconced 2nd bottom in the table, and completely ignoring the parasitic owners fire-saleing everything from the fine china, to players, to the fucking training ground.
I, however, cannot. I don't ascribe to NOPM. I much prefer to see the entire CCFC picture as one that does not deserve financing because: A. The club is pretty much fucked, in every sense and B. We are financing the prolonging of SISU's stranglehold.
Die with dignity, or die in a puddle of piss and shit, with no organs left and having been battered horribly, for 7 years. CCFC is dead without a takeover. L2? We'll be lucky to get to play in L-fucking-2 at this rate...
Sick Boy
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If I was a potential owner, and not wearing sky blue glasses, I'd be more concerned about the passive nature of the fans towards a franchise rugby club moving into their city. Also, as a club we are not renowned for bringing in crowds of 28k.