Religious intolerance (25 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Pete]

Love god love your neighbour - it's a balance isn't it?

 

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[Sick Boy]

:bucktooth:
Point of order - Catholics are Christians - the Cof E was made up :happy:

...created by a king to get away with shagging and murdering women...nice!

 

[Otis]

Love god love your neighbour - it's a balance isn't it?

This appears to be out of balance though doesn't it?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

...created by a king to get away with shagging and murdering women...nice!

Again black and white clear cut history naat

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

This appears to be out of balance though doesn't it?

Wouldn't want to judge as others would probably look at me and say the same. It is our life but I'd like to think I'd ensure my kids health took precedence

 

[Otis]

Wouldn't want to judge as others would probably look at me and say the same. It is our life but I'd like to think I'd ensure my kids health took precedence

I would say a 3 year old and a 5 year old need more than 6 hrs sleep.

You can worship God from your own home surely? I am certain that some people do and never go to church.

Commons sense needed surely.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I would say a 3 year old and a 5 year old need more than 6 hrs sleep.

You can worship God from your own home surely? I am certain that some people do and never go to church.

Commons sense needed surely.

Where's the six hours from? 12.45 to 9 gives about 7 and a half hours and probably one night it's fine. My 2 younger kids haven't come to midnight mass yet, one is 12, cause it's too late and they enjoy Christmas Day too much.

I think there are worse things than taking your kids to church a lot when it cones to parenting but some on here may disagree

 

[Otis]

Where's the six hours from? 12.45 to 9 gives about 7 and a half hours and probably one night it's fine. My 2 younger kids haven't come to midnight mass yet, one is 12, cause it's too late and they enjoy Christmas Day too much.

I think there are worse things than taking your kids to church a lot when it cones to parenting but some on here may disagree

They were up not long after 7. Can always hear them running about in the mornings.

They didn't get up at 9. And they came home at 12.45. They went to bed at about 1am.

 

[Otis]

In fact it was later. Just asked the wife and she says it was 1.15, not 12.45 and that they didn't go to bed until 1.30.

She remembered because she was a bit shocked, thinking they would sleep in the next day, but it was Sunday and of course they HAD to go to church.

It was 6 hours sleep max.

We are digressing anyway. I have no problem with people believing in God. That's up to them. I just don't get how he has to be thanked every single day and worshipped every single day.

Just seems bizarre. It's like people need reassurance on a risky basis.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

In fact it was later. Just asked the wife and she says it was 1.15, not 12.45 and that they didn't go to bed until 1.30.

She remembered because she was a bit shocked, thinking they would sleep in the next day, but it was Sunday and of course they HAD to go to church.

It was 6 hours sleep max.

We are digressing anyway. I have no problem with people believing in God. That's up to them. I just don't get how he has to be thanked every single day and worshipped every single day.

Just seems bizarre. It's like people need reassurance on a risky basis.

Ah I understand the less than 6 hours. I wonder if I know your neighbours Otis

 

[tommydazzle]

As Homer Simpson asks, 'if god is all around why do I have to go to the same building every Sunday?'

 

[shmmeee]

Just want to reiterate, I don't agree with virtually anything you've said Pete, but fair play for engaging in the spirit of decent debate.

 

[Otis]

Yep. He's a good lad and fair play.

I always find him engaging.

 

[Otis]

Ah I understand the less than 6 hours. I wonder if I know your neighbours Otis

Probably. I mean, there's only the one church in Coventry isn't there.

You show me yours and I will show you theirs.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Just want to reiterate, I don't agree with virtually anything you've said Pete, but fair play for engaging in the spirit of decent debate.

Anything? Bloody hell

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Probably. I mean, there's only the one church in Coventry isn't there.

You show me yours and I will show you theirs.

I was meaning there aren't many churches that have services that go on till 1am. But you're correct one church under god

 

[Otis]

I was meaning there aren't many churches that have services that go on till 1am. But you're correct one church under god

So, where do you go?

Don't have to name the church, but what area?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

So, where do you go?

Don't have to name the church, but what area?

Town centre

 

[Otis]

Ooh......interesting.

This is town centre too. Well, almost.

 

[shmmeee]

Anything? Bloody hell

Virtually anything

 

[Monners]

Ooh, contentious point.

There are significant differences between the Catholic and 'Christian' faith. Confession, the importance of Mary (Mother of God).

And besides, if you ask a Catholic about their religion, they don't say they are Christian, they say they are Catholic.

Catholicism is a denomination of the Christian faith - so are Methodists, baptists et al

 

[Otis]

Catholicism is a denomination of the Christian faith - so are Methodists, baptists et al

Yes, I know. Just saying Catholics say they are Catholics rather than Christian. Well, in my experience anyway.

 

[Sick Boy]

Just want to reiterate, I don't agree with virtually anything you've said Pete, but fair play for engaging in the spirit of decent debate.

Yes, definitely!

 

[Sick Boy]

Yes, I know. Just saying Catholics say they are Catholics rather than Christian. Well, in my experience anyway.

That's because it's the real church.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I'm reminded of a phrase used to refer to witnessing to others about your faith, how important it is and if absolutely necessary use words

 

[ccfc92]

havnt seen it done in a rude way or telling others what they think is wrong.

Did you read Trevel's posts on previous pages? :joyful:

 

[ccfc92]

Just caught up on this thread, and seen what's posted over the last few days, Jesus :joyful: Literally :joyful:

 

[ccfc92]

I would be interested to find out how someone can be 100% certain on something.

Like I asked the other day, on 1-10 on "God" being real, I'd say it's probably a 1-2 for me, purely because of the amount of "believers" in the world, and more of a hope that there IS a meaning to life, and it's not just born, live, die.

I just think "Religion" needs reforming to fit with modern life, but if this is done, surely it undermines the Bible etc?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I would be interested to find out how someone can be 100% certain on something.

Like I asked the other day, on 1-10 on "God" being real, I'd say it's probably a 1-2 for me, purely because of the amount of "believers" in the world, and more of a hope that there IS a meaning to life, and it's not just born, live, die.

I just think "Religion" needs reforming to fit with modern life, but if this is done, surely it undermines the Bible etc?

I don't think it does personally

 

[ccfc92]

I don't think it does personally

What about homosexuality, treatment of women etc?

 

[Otis]

I would be interested to find out how someone can be 100% certain on something.

Like I asked the other day, on 1-10 on "God" being real, I'd say it's probably a 1-2 for me, purely because of the amount of "believers" in the world, and more of a hope that there IS a meaning to life, and it's not just born, live, die.

I just think "Religion" needs reforming to fit with modern life, but if this is done, surely it undermines the Bible etc?

But isn't a lot of belief based on tradition and succession and the being brought up in Christian families and beliefs passed down?

The Christians next door are all Christian. The mum and dad have taken their kids to church, taught them their way of life and obviously told them that God is real and all about salvation and putting your faith in Christ.

The 4 kids are all home schooled so that indoctrinates them further. They are taught to believe in God.

First day we moved in the kids asked us 'What church do you go to?' I said we don't go to church. They looked shocked and completely baffled.

It's all they know, so I expect all 4 kids to stay Christians and then pass down their beliefs to their children and so forth. I guess in a lot of instances if your parents tell you something is true and tell it your every day there is a pretty good chance you are going to accept and believe it.

With my daughter I told her that I didn't believe in God, but that it was up to her and if she believed that was fine. I did that when she was about 6-7 and they started teaching RE at school.

I still say the same thing now, but she has already decided there is no God and she puts up great arguments as to why in class.

I am quite proud of her.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What about homosexuality, treatment of women etc?

What about it?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

But isn't a lot of belief based on tradition and succession and the being brought up in Christian families and beliefs passed down?

The Christians next door are all Christian. The mum and dad have taken their kids to church, taught them their way of life and obviously told them that God is real and all about salvation and putting your faith in Christ.

The 4 kids are all home schooled so that indoctrinates them further. They are taught to believe in God.

First day we moved in the kids asked us 'What church do you go to?' I said we don't go to church. They looked shocked and completely baffled.

It's all they know, so I expect all 4 kids to stay Christians and then pass down their beliefs to their children and so forth. I guess in a lot of instances if your parents tell you something is true and tell it your every day there is a pretty good chance you are going to accept and believe it.

With my daughter I told her that I didn't believe in God, but that it was up to her and if she believed that was fine. I did that when she was about 6-7 and they started teaching RE at school.

I still say the same thing now, but she has already decided there is no God and she puts up great arguments as to why in class.

I am quite proud of her.

I'm not from a Christian family. Very open with my kids about different faiths and ensuring our faith impacts our lives all the time rather than just on a Sunday

 

[Otis]

I'm not from a Christian family. Very open with my kids about different faiths and ensuring our faith impacts our lives all the time rather than just on a Sunday

I can guess it must be very difficult in Christian families if a member of the family turns their back on religion, because to families mind that may mean they consider that person is then going to hell.

I do honestly think it would be so much nicer and easier if you were to get into heaven through good deeds and helping people.

The world would be a much nicer place.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I can guess it must be very difficult in Christian families if a member of the family turns their back on religion, because to families mind that may mean they consider that person is then going to hell.

I do honestly think it would be so much nicer and easier if you were to get into heaven through good deeds and helping people.

The world would be a much nicer place.

It's not about haven or hell its more living life in all its fullness