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ecky

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Nick said:
That rules out Fisher even speaking though.

It would mean somebody else speaking about it, would they use Slade to do it? "Look, you are well within your rights to protest and we understand but please leave the football side alone off the pitch etc"

Venus can pretty much be written off.
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I can't believe none of the former managers have come out or leaked info about sisu and the running of the club??

It's not like we've only had one manager or coach in the last nine years
 
Astute

Astute

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Deleted member 5849 said:
Have to say, if we won games in the division below, the atmosphere'd get better. Only reason it's exploding (again) now is because we're so utterly inept on the pitch as well - last season masked the horrendous failures of the club, to an extent.

Now whether we would actually win games in the division below is another matter entirely...(!)
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Just like many of us thought we would win more games when we ended up in this division
 
Otis

Otis

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chiefdave said:
Brilliant, that will make all the difference as I'm sure nobody on this board had any idea there were any problems with the club before the pitch invasions and smoke bombs yesterday :banghead:

It doesn't matter if Fisher knows, it doesn't matter if some PR person at SISU knows. Do you think Sepalla will change her course in the slightest over what happened yesterday? Its not being a thorn in SISU's side, its pissing off our fans, opposition fans and the players. Nobody past that seems bothered in the slightest.
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Please, please, please don't mention Thorn in Sisu's side.

It's making the hair on the back of my neck stand up just thinking about it.
 
tisza

tisza

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ecky said:
I can't believe none of the former managers have come out or leaked info about sisu and the running of the club??

It's not like we've only had one manager or coach in the last nine years
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SISU have always been big on confidentiality clauses on ex-employees inc. managers, executives etc.
 
Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Nick said:


How's that going to help players? Miles away from Sheff Utd
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Now I'm sure that reminds me of someone...

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Hugh Jarse

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Looks like a typical, "c'mon then" ESN I've encountered before.

Anyone got the balls to name and shame that gentleman in the video?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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riyadhskyblue said:
I would take that right now. The concern I have is the national league becoming reality.
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We do seem to be heading the way of Luton...

Only 'consolation' is it takes us a few seasons to bottom out in each division.
 
NortonSkyBlue

NortonSkyBlue

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oldskyblue58 said:
As for sharing responsibility well you could argue that all three of the above do (CCFC/TRUST/JHW). However none planned or encouraged illegal behaviour and at some point personal responsibility has to step in.

If you are going to apportion blame to the Trust or JHW then those participating in the "protest" must act within the boundaries set - quite clearly the Trust & JHW have said from the start that protests must be peaceful and lawful. Once the "protestors" step away from that and into illegal activity then to my mind that becomes wholly personal responsibility and choice. SISU are the root cause yes but aggression, illegal actions etc are a personal choice.

You might say it was right (I do not) that it was justified, necessary, acceptable, understandable but then you also have to accept any consequences that come with those actions or encouragement of those actions. The club is at the lowest point I have ever known and under siege from all directions - attitudes will harden, division will increase, it will get worse yet

It does irritate that in this dispute and many other things people/entities look to hide behind "it was someone else to blame it wasn't me/us" You have to take responsibility for your own actions or lack of them

Just my opinion, yours may differ and I respect that but expect the same in return
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Whatever we do we have to accept personal responsibility and even if they were part of the supporters group it would still be so, you can't hide behind a flag when it comes to protests like this.
I think that condoning or condemning is counterproductive here.
These are our fellow Coventrians who feel that action needs to be taken to save the club and they are prepared to confront the situation the club finds itself in and do something about it.
My view has shifted reading through this thread titled idiots. If the club is to be saved then these idiots will be the Spartans who took the fight to the enemy rather than the pacifists who tutted on the sidelines.
As I said I don't condone and I don't condemn, I don't agree with the actions taken but I must say thank god somebody is doing something!!!!
 
Wheelfass

Wheelfass

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Moff said:
Thanks for your permission, its touching.
Try getting the point next time, it might help you in replying.
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You don't need my permission.
You support the plastic pigs and so do I, but you don't support or seem to understand what happened at Northampton where as I do.
 
Moff

Moff

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Wheelfass said:
You don't need my permission.
You support the plastic pigs and so do I, but you don't support or seem to understand what happened at Northampton where as I do.
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That's not what I was saying Wheelfass.

The point I made was if we can engage fans of other teams, and make a bigger protest it gets more bad press for SISU, and I know its only a small hollow victory when it happens but they don't seem to enjoy bad press. I also realise from LAST that engagement with other fans has been tried and they don't always care.

By all means other protests are worth trying, and its going to increase and increase due to the shit on and off the pitch, but I just feel the bigger the better for creating them bad press.
 
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Wheelfass

Wheelfass

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Moff said:
That's not what I was saying Wheelfass.

The point I made was if we can engage fans of other teams, and make a bigger protest it gets more bad press for SISU, and I know its only a small hollow victory when it happens but they don't seem to enjoy bad press. I also realise from LAST that engagement with other fans has been tried and they don't always care.

By all means other protests are worth trying, and its going to increase and increase due to the shit on and off the pitch, but I just feel the bigger the better for creating them bad press.
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There is a massive split in our current fan base as to what action would have the biggest impact. Some, like you, think that a joint club action is best, but like you have already stated there are only a few clubs fans that would be in the remotest bit interested in joining in and most would probably rather spit on us - it's that tribal thing. Holding the game up with objects on the pitch - particularly if the TV cameras are present - would get noticed but so do the more radical approaches that have been employed.
I support all means of highlighting our situation.
 
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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Nick said:
I don't know, nobody who Has said it will be sisu has explained how yet.

If it is sisu paying from their pocket then it puts a completely different shine on things to if it's ccfc doesn't it?
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CCFC season ticket holder's and match day tickets sales , corporate sales and merchandise sales put money into the Club , so any fines will be paid by the FANS and not SISU .
So there you have it Nick , you say NOPM doesn't work , it's works for SISU every penny the fans put in means NOPM for SISU to pay out .
 
Nick

Nick

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
CCFC season ticket holder's and match day tickets sales , corporate sales and merchandise sales put money into the Club , so any fines will be paid by the FANS and not SISU .
So there you have it Nick , you say NOPM doesn't work , it's works for SISU every penny the fans put in means NOPM for SISU to pay out .
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Can you translate?
 
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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oldskyblue58 said:
Cheers CVD. Think it is important that the unemotional facts are focused on. What happened yesterday will be used by the owners directors and certain media to discredit the fans protests and the organisations behind them. It will help them keep opposition to Sisu divided and to ignore any proposed alternative ownership
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Surely if we had NEW owners there wouldn't be any protest , so any NEW investor's would understand that surely !!!
 
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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Nick said:
Can you translate?
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Typical response from you Nick , you answer a question with a question .
Your so predictable .
Let's try again , SISU say though Mr Fisher who is there mouthpiece !!! CCFC must be self-sufficient !!!
 
Nick

Nick

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Typical response from you Nick , you answer a question with a question .
Your so predictable .
Let's try again , SISU say though Mr Fisher who is there mouthpiece !!! CCFC must be self-sufficient !!!
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Predictable because your post didn't make much sense?
 
Nick

Nick

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
No you understand ok , you just don't want to engage.
Fans put money in to run the club. SIMPLES :wacky:
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No I am just confused because I am saying CCFC pay the fines and not SISU, which is what you are saying also.

What am I engaging with, you agreeing?
 
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