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cloughie

cloughie

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letsallsingtogether said:
Your right what difference does it make?
But what does doing nothing do?

So if we just take it all on the state of the club now bottom of the table lose the next 2 games and we are fucked can't even afford to draw.
Fans disappearing in droves supporters turning there backs on attending next season, will Sisu get to hear about that or will they just keep walking around blindfolded and wearing ear defenders?

Will Joy say "where is all the money being spent" when they go to her and say look we need to move back to Sixfields as we have no home, and they want the Rent up front, and we have no one else to sell.
Joy " why did our customers not protest I know I would have for something I hold in high esteem."

You don't see Joy give up on her losing causes So why the fuck should we.
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We will never give up they can go f**k themselves before I give in to these bastards.
Yet the Lilly white 'oh I don't think it's right but lets wait and see' brigade will still object to fans being angry
 
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stupot07

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"Doing something" = invading the pitch, throwing smoke bombs, pissing of fans of other teams as well as a lot of their own.

"Doing nothing" = everyone else including the other 1480+ that were at Sixfields

#heroes

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Astute

Astute

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Grendel said:
So where's yours invested in then? That's all I asked. I get statements of fund values and of final earnings at 65, death in service benefits, cash free sums, total fund value and penalty clauses for early settlement but not the specified funds the pension fund invests in. I'm surprised yours goes into the detail so where do they invest out of interest?

What sort of scheme is yours - a 39/50? It's important to know as the company can of course suspend the scheme at any time.

Out of interest what's your schemes approach to dependants?

Which act are you reverting to regarding security of investment? The last legislation was more concerned with fund withdrawal. This may be a route to go actually as dependant recovery is generally pretty poor.
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You must be in a poorly run scheme if they don't let you know where the money is invested. And are you telling me that you think that any of it is in high risk? It is not allowed these days. That is why 90% of it is guaranteed these days. And is yours fully funded? They should also inform you of this.

Dependants you say? As in all my kids get a pension until they are 18 if I die before then and my wife gets a pension if I die first. And a lump sum to each of them. Plus all the pension I would have got up to 75 if I die before then. The wife would get 280k and kids 1k a month each until the age of 18 IIRC.

So how good is yours considering you asked such a personal question?
 
chiefdave

chiefdave

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letsallsingtogether said:
Your right what difference does it make?
But what does doing nothing do?
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Nobody is saying do nothing. But what was the aim of yesterday protests? The reports talk about smoke bombs and pitch invasions. Little to nothing about the state of the club. But we have pissed off another set of fans who, a quick look at the message board would suggest, no longer support our cause. Do you really think it has made the slightest bit of difference to how SISU will go about their business?

If the aim is SISU out at all costs then target their business. If the aim is new owners then identify a viable exit strategy for SISU and work to find an alternative owner.
 
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theferret

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stupot07 said:
"Doing something" = invading the pitch, throwing smoke bombs, pissing of fans of other teams as well as a lot of their own.

"Doing nothing" = everyone else including the other 1480+ that were at Sixfields

#heroes

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But it isn't just about yesterday. Doing 'something' means different things to different people. Some went on the pitch against SU in what was a peaceful demonstration, some threw pigs at Charlton, some blew whistles at the SU game (which for that game I think achieved its aim), some have been on protest marches or held banners.

The 'do nothing' people are literally those that do nothing other than post snide remarks and hide in the CT comments section.

Of course some people will go beyond what the majority deem acceptable - but the point about doing something still stands I think. Some will react irrationally at times, but since when has there been anything rational about being a football fan? I don't know why it matters so much, it just does. It's fine to be critical about some of the actions yesterday, but some have jumped on it and used it as an excuse to attack the whole notion of protesting which I just don't get tbh.
 
cloughie

cloughie

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Astute said:
Oh yes I do. We get a yearly statement telling us where the money is invested. And with the latest rules brought out none of it is allowed to be invested in high risk anything. Most of it has to be in minimal risk. As in bonds or similar.

Or don't you have a clue about final salary pensions?
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He rarely has a clue about anything
 
oucho

oucho

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I have been in sympathy with all the protests this season until yesterday. But for the first time EVER, i left a game with 30 mins to go. When more flares were thrown on when the second goal went in, me and 4 other lads just looked at each other and we all knew it was time to go. It wasn't the product on the pitch although that didn't help; we were stood right in front of a load of the knobheads, one of whom had a real go at my mate's wife. We stormed out and i felt terrible, quite literally brought a tear to the eye. But the absolute knobs causing all that aggro do not represent me or my friends. Yes we are CCFC fans and we want sisu out but not by carrying on like that. They embarrassed the club yesterday just as much as the players did.
 
cloughie

cloughie

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Astute said:
You must be in a poorly run scheme if they don't let you know where the money is invested. And are you telling me that you think that any of it is in high risk? It is not allowed these days. That is why 90% of it is guaranteed these days. And is yours fully funded? They should also inform you of this.

Dependants you say? As in all my kids get a pension until they are 18 if I die before then and my wife gets a pension if I die first. And a lump sum to each of them. Plus all the pension I would have got up to 75 if I die before then. The wife would get 280k and kids 1k a month each until the age of 18 IIRC.

So how good is yours considering you asked such a personal question?
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you should remember he is a LIAR
 
oucho

oucho

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Because i was in the middle of it and the atmosphere was awful, so toxic.
 
Astute

Astute

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fernandopartridge said:
I can't believe how fragile some Cov fans are. It was a minor pitch invasion and a few fireworks. Christ, football really has been sanitised if that feels like it does to some of you.
I've seen some comments on facebook where fans of other clubs show great sympathy to the protest, not sure why our own fans don't feel the same way.
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Maybe those that it scared didn't go to games in the 70's and 80's where it was mission accomplished just getting into the ground in one piece. They were brought up on football where no contact with the GK is allowed.
 
SkyBlue_Bear83

SkyBlue_Bear83

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theferret said:
All the faux outrage is a bit tiresome.

I agree, ideally we wouldn't take these sort of things on the road, and can understand NT fans being pissed off.

That said, we have to fight for our club. The alternative is to do nothing, sit on our hands and join in with those who stay at home and try and dress their apathy up as protest. People are angry. This shit matters, and some people will overstep the mark from time to time because they care, perhaps too much.

It hurts, and perhaps yesterday won't achieve anything, but I'd rather that than rolling over and submitting. Maybe a line was crossed yesterday, and we have to be careful, but I'm tired of the suck it and see approach. What has that achieved? Precisely nothing. We're as good as down, and if we fall foul of the authorities between now and the end of the season so what. We may be fined, and that ultimately will come out of the club's finances, but then given that most people have stated they won't be renewing their season ticket next season (including many who have condemned the protest), since when has that bothered us? What does it matter when pretty much everyone agrees we have no future anyway under the current owners.

The last thing I want is in a few years time, when there is no club, to look back and ask if we could have done more. To ask, did we fight hard enough? Did we go down with a fight or a whimper? Desperate times call for desperate measures. But yes, perhaps we have to be a bit cleverer in how we approach these things and repeated pitch invasions may not win friends and influence people. Understandable though? I'd say so.
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If we really we want to do something we need some direction, organisation and leadership for people to get behind. A few people acting like vandals does nothing.
 
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Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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Got to say it was a lot more of a hostile atmosphere than I was expecting, before and after the game too.

Did anyone here go to the Auctioneers pub before the game?
 
SkyBlue_Bear83

SkyBlue_Bear83

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theferret said:
But it isn't just about yesterday. Doing 'something' means different things to different people. Some went on the pitch against SU in what was a peaceful demonstration, some threw pigs at Charlton, some blew whistles at the SU game (which for that game I think achieved its aim), some have been on protest marches or held banners.

The 'do nothing' people are literally those that do nothing other than post snide remarks and hide in the CT comments section.

Of course some people will go beyond what the majority deem acceptable - but the point about doing something still stands I think. Some will react irrationally at times, but since when has there been anything rational about being a football fan? I don't know why it matters so much, it just does. It's fine to be critical about some of the actions yesterday, but some have jumped on it and used it as an excuse to attack the whole notion of protesting which I just don't get tbh.
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I don't think people have used it as an excuse to attack the notion of protesting, I'm an active protester but yesterday's scenes were appalling and I don't want anything to do with those forms of 'protests'.
 
Wheelfass

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Moff said:
Collective efforts of protest like the one at Charlton, seem to get a lot more air time and decent press coverage, than fucking off opposition fans and throwing a few flares on the pitch.
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Tell you what then Moff.
You just stick to your plastic pigs.
 
Wheelfass

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chiefdave said:
Nobody is saying do nothing. But what was the aim of yesterday protests? The reports talk about smoke bombs and pitch invasions. Little to nothing about the state of the club. But we have pissed off another set of fans who, a quick look at the message board would suggest, no longer support our cause
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If they had "EVER" supported our cause they would have protested against us sharing their ground in the first place. Your argument holds no credence to our case or cause.
What are you gonna do eh..... Put a poster up in your back garden. Pffft.
 
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Steve.B50

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Moff said:
Collective efforts of protest like the one at Charlton, seem to get a lot more air time and decent press coverage, than fucking off opposition fans and throwing a few flares on the pitch.
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But what did it actually achieve?
It made me feel good being there but it changed nothing.

Personally I don't care about other fans, they say they care about us but do they?
 
letsallsingtogether

letsallsingtogether

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Moff said:
Fair enough. I just thought the Charlton protest got some very good press coverage against SISU, but yes I take on board that a lot of clubs fans don't care, but I also thank you for trying to get them on board.
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The thing is I do get upset when posters start spouting shit about the protests etc.
We do listen to people we do take things on board from social media, we just don't spout on about it.
Some things are just running there course others haven't worked.
We do try and approach the owners but they don't care, we run any of our protests past the Police to make sure nothing we do is illegal, we are a protest group not criminals.
We do this for our love of CCFC we also know not everyone is happy with what we do but generally most City fans are on our side.

Sorry if we can't just sit there quietly but what needs doing needs doing.

Like I have said before Joy doesn't give up and we have news for her,
Nor do we.
PUSB
 
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letsallsingtogether

letsallsingtogether

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chiefdave said:
So why the hell are we having protests to raise awareness then? And if not to raise awareness, which is the usual reason given, what are the aims of the protest. Was anyone from SISU there yesterday, do you think they will even hear about what happens and if they do what difference will it make?
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Well we have got you all talking about it on nearly every thread and as we know Sisu read these boards.
So yes they will know about it, thanks to the likes of yourself.
As for making a difference who knows but we are not going away, we will be that Thorn in their side.
They have dragged us through the dirt now it is their time.
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wingy

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letsallsingtogether said:
Well we have got you all talking about it on nearly every thread and as we know Sisu read these boards.
So yes they will know about it, thanks to the likes of yourself.
As for making a difference who knows but we are not going away, we will be that Thorn in their side.
They have dragged us through the dirt now it is their time.
PUSB
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Contempt breeds Contempt
 
chiefdave

chiefdave

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letsallsingtogether said:
Well we have got you all talking about it on nearly every thread and as we know Sisu read these boards.
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Brilliant, that will make all the difference as I'm sure nobody on this board had any idea there were any problems with the club before the pitch invasions and smoke bombs yesterday :banghead:

It doesn't matter if Fisher knows, it doesn't matter if some PR person at SISU knows. Do you think Sepalla will change her course in the slightest over what happened yesterday? Its not being a thorn in SISU's side, its pissing off our fans, opposition fans and the players. Nobody past that seems bothered in the slightest.
 
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benji123

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pastythegreat said:
Points deduction followed by certain relegation!!?? And add ANOTHER group of fans to Sheff Utd and Bolton that think we're all cunts now and have zero sympathy for our cause!!!
Great fucking success you fucking moron! Suppose you don't care though! Suppose your NOPM so haven't a clue what's happening inside the stadium when we're passing off other supporters

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Wake up and smell the coffee mate CCFC is slowly dying and you care about what other fans think of us .. What a joke! I can't believe the protesters are being called morons there the ones that are trying to make things better! Our main priority at the moment should be getting sisu out not worrying about the league.. Look at the bigger picture for god sake!!
 
Nick

Nick

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benji123 said:
Wake up and smell the coffee mate CCFC is slowly dying and you care about what other fans think of us .. What a joke! I can't believe the protesters are being called morons there the ones that are trying to make things better! Our main priority at the moment should be getting sisu out not worrying about the league.. Look at the bigger picture for god sake!!
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How is it making anything better?
 
Astute

Astute

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chiefdave said:
Brilliant, that will make all the difference as I'm sure nobody on this board had any idea there were any problems with the club before the pitch invasions and smoke bombs yesterday :banghead:

It doesn't matter if Fisher knows, it doesn't matter if some PR person at SISU knows. Do you think Sepalla will change her course in the slightest over what happened yesterday? Its not being a thorn in SISU's side, its pissing off our fans, opposition fans and the players. Nobody past that seems bothered in the slightest.
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You have got it so wrong. Most people still don't know what is going on at our club. Most people don't even know that London Wasps have become Coventry Wasps and own what should have been our stadium.

Pissed off our own supporters? That has been done by SISU. Haven't you noticed that it looks like they are taking us to Division 4? Yet you don't want us to demonstrate :wideyed:

Most of us want to have a club to support. And giving SISU an easy time is the opposite of what is needed. Look where it has got us so far. Nothing has bothered SISU so far? You are living in a dream world. I suppose Fisher blamed us supporters because they are not bothered.
 
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Steve.B50

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chiefdave said:
Brilliant, that will make all the difference as I'm sure nobody on this board had any idea there were any problems with the club before the pitch invasions and smoke bombs yesterday :banghead:

It doesn't matter if Fisher knows, it doesn't matter if some PR person at SISU knows. Do you think Sepalla will change her course in the slightest over what happened yesterday? Its not being a thorn in SISU's side, its pissing off our fans, opposition fans and the players. Nobody past that seems bothered in the slightest.
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Other fans don't care, just like if we are all honest do we give a damn about other clubs with owner issues?

Our options are limited.
 
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