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Otis

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From what I have seen of Slade he is a shit manager and listening to him about as useful in the role as a shaved monkey.

Jimmy FH must be pissing himself laughing that he could have been here with these mugs.
Done okay elsewhere though. His record is pretty good.

He does look like he doesn't know what he is doing at the moment, but as I say he came in with us already in disarray.

If he stays I think we need to give him 10 games next season before judging.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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Done okay elsewhere though. His record is pretty good.

He does look like he doesn't know what he is doing at the moment, but as I say he came in with us already in disarray.

If he stays I think we need to give him 10 games next season before judging.


I wouldn't give him ten games this season, don't think he was great at Charlton and Cardiff soon shifted him out of the way
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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I still feel if you was to give him a summer to build a squad on frees to take on league two he'd get a very competitive side of "his players" something so very hard to do in January. League two is even more physical and crap football on crap pitches in some old fashioned grounds that this current group will get rolled all over week in week out, even more than what we're currently seeing, the club needs stability for a change.
This is of course if he'd actually still wanted to stick around and this club in its current off the field state and war between fans and owners.
I do fear tho if we don't have a manager in place we will have another summer of poor recruitment in the same situation in league two with kids and loans not a experienced core of players with the no how to see games out and the little tricks were so often on the end of.
It's not just the results but the football has been awful, I'm all for a fast direct approach but Slade is just delivering turgid hoofball. It's just been long balls to tudgay, beavon and Thomas from the beginning
 

Otis

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It's not just the results but the football has been awful, I'm all for a fast direct approach but Slade is just delivering turgid hoofball. It's just been long balls to tudgay, beavon and Thomas from the beginning
The long ball can work though if you have a big target man and a speedy goal getter alongside.

Millwall played a lot of long balls yesterday. You just need the right personnel.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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The long ball can work though if you have a big target man and a speedy goal getter alongside.

Millwall played a lot of long balls yesterday. You just need the right personnel.

Too late now he had the chance in the window and seemed to forget that he could sign players and was having endless midfielders in on trial.
 

NortonSkyBlue

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Russell Slade is like all the recent managers, on a hiding to nothing.
I would like him to walk like Mowbray did but then who wants to come to this festering sore of a club at present?
Actually only someone who is an idiot or desperate or supremely confident would consider us as a career option.
 

Otis

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Russell Slade is like all the recent managers, on a hiding to nothing.
I would like him to walk like Mowbray did but then who wants to come to this festering sore of a club at present?
Actually only someone who is an idiot or desperate or supremely confident would consider us as a career option.
Where do I sign up? (I'm in the idiot category by the way)
 

steve82

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From what I have seen of Slade he is a shit manager and listening to him about as useful in the role as a shaved monkey.

Jimmy FH must be pissing himself laughing that he could have been here with these mugs.

Done okay elsewhere though. His record is pretty good.

He does look like he doesn't know what he is doing at the moment, but as I say he came in with us already in disarray.

If he stays I think we need to give him 10 games next season before judging.

And if JFH had of took the job he'd find himself in the same position as RS.
It's still fundamentally a squad that's very fragile, young, not strong enough and more importantly not mentally strong enough after the November and December we had. That was the nail in the coffin as we all said at the time, this squad will take us down.
The problem we have is we could not change enough of them in a window, it's a task for a summer. A complete overhaul is required.
He's tried to change all he can, look at the bench yesterday at your opinions to try and change anything, some of the players them selves need to step up.
Lee Burge silly basic keeping errors. Again looked out his depth.
Kyle Reid what was his contribution to the game? His jobs to beat his man...
Callum Reilly, of the boy looked up when he was in possession he'd of done ok.
Andy Rose, our most physical player but cannot use his size... plays like he's 5,7, not 6'+ again not stepping up.
Tudgay if we'd of had other options I'm sure he'd be on the bench... playing with 10 men.
That's 5 players not doing there job to there full ability.
 

steve82

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Too late now he had the chance in the window and seemed to forget that he could sign players and was having endless midfielders in on trial.

Because getting a striker in January for a club bottom of the league potless is like nipping out to Tesco's ain't it and selecting one.
There's not many about.
 

Nantwich Skyblues

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I didn't want him , my brother lives in Cardiff and supports the blue birds. He told me the footy under slade was back to the dark ages and he had no plan b.... for fooks sake we haven't won a league game since he came here .. he has to go , not that he will, or we are doomed...
 

Otis

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I didn't want him , my brother lives in Cardiff and supports the blue birds. He told me the footy under shade was back to the dark ages and he had no plan b.... for fooks sake we haven't won a league game since he came here .. he has to go , not that he will, or we are doomed...
I was a bit meh about him. Someone then though pointed out his managerial record and on paper he looked the right sort of bloke for the job.

Fisher said there were something like 70 applications.

I wonder who else applied?
 

NortonSkyBlue

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I was a bit meh about him. Someone then though pointed out his managerial record and on paper he looked the right sort of bloke for the job.

Fisher said there were something like 70 applications.

I wonder who else applied?
Apparently you Otis
 

steve82

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I was a bit meh about him. Someone then though pointed out his managerial record and on paper he looked the right sort of bloke for the job.

Fisher said there were something like 70 applications.

I wonder who else applied?

That's correct, on paper there is no one else out there with a cv and levels of experience he's shown and with limited funds done reasonably well in a long managerial career.
It's proving to be the job that he cannot fix sadly.
The new transfer rules this season mean it's a totally different recruitment pattern for all football league sides and you cannot use the loan window at any given moment like other seasons so options are limited when everyone is shopping at once with likely better options out there.

His record at Charlton this season was won 4 drew 8 lost 4, some of them draws were against Bolton, Fleetwood, and Scunthorpe. He was sacked when they were 14th and 4 points off the play offs after rebuilding the team over the summer which takes time more often than not to settle in.
Cardiff he was tasked with trimming the wage structure after there spell in the prem with players on inflated wages. I don't believe his style was appreciated bt there fans but got then close to the play offs.
 

shmmeee

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I was a bit meh about him. Someone then though pointed out his managerial record and on paper he looked the right sort of bloke for the job.

Fisher said there were something like 70 applications.

I wonder who else applied?

Probably a few Sunderland fans writing books.
 

steve82

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Nothing personal. You just backed wrong horse. I imagine you think all foreingers dive. Tiki taka is for pansys etc

Bet you love it when pep guardiola loses a game etc.

Better worded....
I really think any man coming in would suffer the same fate. I see nothing different that they could of done.
The style of football being the only thing but we had a manager playing football and the end result was still the same with players a lot higher in confidence.
Ultimately without a striker and players with confidence, desire and mental strength your never gonna achieve your targets
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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We were playing shite football under Mowbray. His first four home games were against some of the worst teams in the division and we barely mustered a shot at goal in any of them.

Academic now. However, I felt under Mowbray we were organised and just lacking a goal scorer.we drew lots of games and those we lost, we lost narrowly. The football now is like the club itself, a mess. We look disorganised and still lacking a goal scorer
 

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Part of it is that it looks disorganised yesterday while our players were having their prematch cuddle their players were running in and out of cones and looking ready
 

steve82

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Hes had a window. No1 to blame but hinself.

Miwbray and venus both did better with a bad squad.

He had a window yes, a window, 31 days. TM had 90 odd days....
We talked about this the other day, it's the same players name but not the same players mentality as what TM had.
He like the team lost the belly for the fight..
MV destroyed what little confidence that was left and royally f@*ked it up.
RS or any other manager would of suffered the same fate.
RS has come out and said out of the strikers who moved we were in for them and done there work, they chose other options.
Backing up me saying it's hard to get the players to do the job in January
 

Irish Sky Blue

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Seems things turn sour very quickly... and most now want him gone. He's not been given the luck from the gods with the results with the "new manager bounce theory" and undoubtedly the performance lately have been very poor.
That said....No other manager out there would of produced anything different with the state of the squad he inherited from MV.
Me I think he's had very bad luck and it's been fine lines on most games regardless of performance. We could of been 6 points better off with confidence a little higher if luck had been with us.
Bristol Rovers he should of taken a watching brief... 4-0 defeat, sees first hand the scale of the job.
Peterborough minutes from victory for our No1 keeper to suffer sticky boots... 1-1
Bolton again inches from a hard fought victory but for Reilly to stop his run in the whistlegate episode... and a George Thomas disallowed goal. 2-2
Chesterfield, was a poor performance overall but again a Tudgay goal disallowed.. 1-0
Fleetwood, not a pretty game but so nearly gained a point against the leagues form side who had scored in every game but one and were on winning run. 0-1
Northampton, early Willis red stopped any real chance of victory and another poor display. 3-0
Millwall, was the better of 2 poor sides for spells but a Burge error from a corner and not delt with defensively. Then Millwall score from 2nd string penalty claim from the game. Lack of stikers and goals for 4th game says everything about the season. 0-2.
The football has not been pretty but Slade did say after the Bristol Rovers game we were not doing the basics right and was clear confidence was very low, and since the luck is not going our way it seems it's becoming harder to lift the players belief or in reality the players have not got the belly for the fight after becoming detached from the safety places. We were asking him to turn a confidence shot squad of kids into a competitive group that only weeks before his arrival were disgraced at Cambridge, Southend and Oxford.
RS tried to bolster the squad and I feel the only players that he got that really wanted that he would call his was Clarke, Beavon and Foley and the loans of Rawson and vernam. Rawson was one to cover Willis or replace Turnbull and add some much needed height and muscle. Vernam a attacking midfielder with pace, trickery and a eye for goal. Reilly was clearly drafted in as Stevenson looked to be off, so a quick fix as part of the sordell/Beavon deal. Folivi although we've not seen him yet was clearly just another body who may be of use as other targets fell away choosing other better offers.
This is still not his desired match day squad or even starting 11

It is the same for every manager who comes here. The one thing I don't get with Slade is the persistence with a long ball game with two small forwards. It hasn't worked in 3 or 4 games before yesterday and he still carries on doing it. I just don't understand why.
 

ollyservetta

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i said at the time it felt more of an rush job after venus debacle , but how do people who know fuck all bout football and how to run a club , take on a manager . They would not know the first thing to look for , and ive lost my faith in oggy with the keeper situation and he must be the most experienced man at the club , surely he should be the one to give the advise on what sort of manager we need .the absolute lack of passion and work ethic at games really makes me wonder whats going on in training.
 

davebart

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As I said when he arrived, the test of whether we would stay up was whether he would be allowed to recruit someone who was going to score goals. That hasn't happened.

As usual expected to fight with one arm tied behind his back
 

Irish Sky Blue

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Russell Slade is like all the recent managers, on a hiding to nothing.
I would like him to walk like Mowbray did but then who wants to come to this festering sore of a club at present?
Actually only someone who is an idiot or desperate or supremely confident would consider us as a career option.

Add arrogant to the list and Tim Fisher fits all of your criteria.
 

steve82

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Mowbray is one of the reasons we are where we are now.

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Unfortunately this is true, his short fall of summer dealings have shaped our season.
TM's recruitment left us well short. And RS will carry the title of the man who was in charge when we went down by the looks of it.
A sad season all round.
 

Otis

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Unfortunately this is true, his short fall of summer dealings have shaped our season.
TM's recruitment left us well short. And RS will carry the title of the man who was in charge when we went down by the looks of it.
A sad season all round.
It is and you are right, the summer dealings shaped our season. It's a lot less to do with how many games someone had or didn't have in charge, it's about not putting a competitive squad out there for this league in the first place.

It is a sorry season all round. Failure on all fronts.

We have that one little glimmer of bringing a bit of happiness to the fans at that is by winning on Tuesday.

Lose that and I really do fear for the rest of the campaign. I really think we will just go down without so much as a whimper.

Win Tuesday and maybe, just maybe it can kick-start our season.
 

shepardo01

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Regarding a win on Tuesday night being the one glimmer of hope for the fans, it seems to have gone fairly unnoticed that I his post match comments (mainly fuelled by the idiot from CWR saying that they had spoken to a "couple" of fans and they said they would rather take staying in League 1 over a trip to Wembley - (God knows who would have said that!) and slade then agreeing!) that he isn't seeing Tuesday as being as important as league games!! Having seen the league games under him, that is rather worrying! Especially as it is the one glimmer of hope that most of the fans have in light of the last 50 odd years of nothing! (87 excepted)
This comment really wound me up but like I said seems to have gone unnoticed!!
 

Otis

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Regarding a win on Tuesday night being the one glimmer of hope for the fans, it seems to have gone fairly unnoticed that I his post match comments (mainly fuelled by the idiot from CWR saying that they had spoken to a "couple" of fans and they said they would rather take staying in League 1 over a trip to Wembley - (God knows who would have said that!) and slade then agreeing!) that he isn't seeing Tuesday as being as important as league games!! Having seen the league games under him, that is rather worrying! Especially as it is the one glimmer of hope that most of the fans have in light of the last 50 odd years of nothing! (87 excepted)
This comment really wound me up but like I said seems to have gone unnoticed!!
Thing is, league games are more important if you believe you have any chance of staying up.

If you accept we are down, the cup game is much more important.

You also have to remember that a number of first teamer's will be missing for Tuesday.

No Clarke, Foley, Rawson, Willis, Vernam.
 

shepardo01

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Bang on otis.
In our situation, with our squad, with all of the background too, surely even the most optimistic fan knows there is no way back.
Slade could really get a few people back onside with a Wembley final for the club. What has been served up so far has been dire.
It's Slades job to convince people we can stay up. But just look at the situation....
Can't bring myself to get excited about Tuesday.
 

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