Slade should stay (1 Viewer)

[CovisGod]

Until the end of the season, for two reasons.

1) We're not getting out of this, Mourinho and Ferguson as joint manager couldn't keep us up, so what's the point ? There's nobody out of work who's going to make any difference now so sack him last day of the season and start again, give someone a whole summer to build a team.

2) Because I don't want to sack Slade and him keep his 100% never relegated record, he's come here and played a shite style of football and doesn't desrerve to have never relegated on his CV.

While I'm here can I please take the opportunity to admit I was wrong, I was one of the biggest callers for Slade to get the job, and on paper honestly thought he would do the business, used to working with limited to no funds, managed to get Orient to a Playoff Final without spending a penny, but I was wrong. He seems to want to not lose more than he wants to win and it's too fucking late for that. Last night was a must win. Why not throw Yakubu on at half time and actually give it a proper go rather than trying his best not to concede, it's too late for that.

Anyway, Wembley is certainly going to be bitter sweet isn't it ? Cracking day out but sat there for 90 minutes with the realisation that this is as good as it's gets for a long, long time.

 

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[covcity4life]

i disagree that noone could keep us up but as you kindly offered to help me for wembley tickets if required i will say great post!

p.s i agree about wembley. gonna take shine off it even if we win. relegation wtf

 

[Evo1883]

I have accepted we are going down , no point getting rid but I hope we don't try and retain him after may

 

[oucho]

Another Slade thread?

I agree about not sacking him though - even though compo would be minimal, I do not see the point of replacing him with another "permanent" manager until May. Definitely do not renew his contact in May, of course.

I would give him until the end of Feb - if no improvement i.e. at least a win and a draw by then, then I'd put Eaden in temporary charge until the end of the season. Make a new appointment with L2 in mind at the end of the season and give the new man plenty of time to plan ahead.

 

[CovisGod]

Another Slade thread?

To be fair, we haven't got many exciting topics to post about currently have we ? It's going to be Wembley or our league plight for a while I suspect.

This thread was more of an "I was wrong" than anything else. Before someone starts bringing up my previous Slade loving threads

 

[oucho]

He wasn't to blame for the late goal, and until then I thought he would get a lot of credit for the "smash and grab" nature of the would-be win last night.

He's only had 9 games, I know things are dire at the moment but I doubt things will improve under a new manager. I think we now need to accept that survival is highly unlikely and give him a free hand to audition for the job next season. The glimpses shown by Kwame, Jones and Yak last night suggest that we might be able to have a few good moments before the end of the season.

 

[NortonSkyBlue]

Until the end of the season, for two reasons.

1) We're not getting out of this, Mourinho and Ferguson as joint manager couldn't keep us up, so what's the point ? There's nobody out of work who's going to make any difference now so sack him last day of the season and start again, give someone a whole summer to build a team.

2) Because I don't want to sack Slade and him keep his 100% never relegated record, he's come here and played a shite style of football and doesn't desrerve to have never relegated on his CV.

While I'm here can I please take the opportunity to admit I was wrong, I was one of the biggest callers for Slade to get the job, and on paper honestly thought he would do the business, used to working with limited to no funds, managed to get Orient to a Playoff Final without spending a penny, but I was wrong. He seems to want to not lose more than he wants to win and it's too fucking late for that. Last night was a must win. Why not throw Yakubu on at half time and actually give it a proper go rather than trying his best not to concede, it's too late for that.

Anyway, Wembley is certainly going to be bitter sweet isn't it ? Cracking day out but sat there for 90 minutes with the realisation that this is as good as it's gets for a long, long time.

1) How about getting someone in who can assess the team and who they would keep rather than waste the first ten games of next season and not be able to sign anyone as the window has closed
2) So the reason to keep Slade is so you can be vindictive, even if it hurts the club?

 

[Grendel]

1) How about getting someone in who can assess the team and who they would keep rather than waste the first ten games of next season and not be able to sign anyone as the window has closed
2) So the reason to keep Slade is so you can be vindictive, even if it hurts the club?

Who is going to stay will partly be determined by who wants to. There will be far more opportunity to recruit an actual real replacement in the summer.

Replacing now and the next guy loses the next 8 (which given the state of hfs squad is a real possibility) would mean the next guy being hounded out as well.

Slade is criticised now for not playing the gifted players such as bigiamarana and Stevenson - the same gifted players who went on a ten March winless run at the start and a 7 game run of defeats from November until he turned up.

It's pretty obvious every player has had ample opportunity to perform and have all failed abysmally.

I have no belief any new manager would turn anything round at all but just be another whipping boy.

It's best just to let the whole debacle play out until the end.

People should really look at the whole season. We had a freak October - take that out and the season has been a list of desperate displays by an utterly hopeless and I suspect Ill disciplined squad of players. I suspect Slade isn't popular as he has tried to address the attitude issue.

The players need to go as well as the manager.

 

[The Reverend Skyblue]

I agree with Grendel totally, let this season play out any new manager will have a certain relegation immediately on his CV, so let's plan for the summer.
I really like the two brothers who manage Lincoln, they have turned them around and were also successful at previous club, I know in non league but they had diddly squat financially to work with at both clubs.
I think they are the Crowley brothers, but up and coming and strict disiplinarians ,so give the fuckers a go I say
Tonylincs may know more about them

 

[ecky]

I hear Ashley and Pudsey will be taking over the managerial reigns for next season
Should be good as pudseys used to
Winalot

 

[AlansEyes]

We've had three managers this season. None of them have been able to get these team playing and winning (although Venus's win ratio all of a sudden looks quite appealing!) Is there anything to suggest that bringing another new manager in could turn the tide? If not, we could bring someone in for the last 15 games, they only win a handful and questions are already being asked about whether they should stay on. If I honestly thought there was a chance someone could come in and get us playing and we finish the season on a high (even while still going down) then I would say go for it, as we would start next season with some optimism. As it stands, it might be best to leave it alone.

 

[Warwickhunt]

if i could see slow improvement over these last 10 games then yes keep him but i honestly can say i see no improvement what so ever and quite frankly dont see what he is doing in training as i dont see it coming out on the field of play. its not good

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Who is going to stay will partly be determined by who wants to. There will be far more opportunity to recruit an actual real replacement in the summer.

Replacing now and the next guy loses the next 8 (which given the state of hfs squad is a real possibility) would mean the next guy being hounded out as well.

Slade is criticised now for not playing the gifted players such as bigiamarana and Stevenson - the same gifted players who went on a ten March winless run at the start and a 7 game run of defeats from November until he turned up.

It's pretty obvious every player has had ample opportunity to perform and have all failed abysmally.

I have no belief any new manager would turn anything round at all but just be another whipping boy.

It's best just to let the whole debacle play out until the end.

People should really look at the whole season. We had a freak October - take that out and the season has been a list of desperate displays by an utterly hopeless and I suspect Ill disciplined squad of players. I suspect Slade isn't popular as he has tried to address the attitude issue.

The players need to go as well as the manager.

Completely agree Grendel.

 

[covcity4life]

lol

 

[steve82]

Who is going to stay will partly be determined by who wants to. There will be far more opportunity to recruit an actual real replacement in the summer.

Replacing now and the next guy loses the next 8 (which given the state of hfs squad is a real possibility) would mean the next guy being hounded out as well.

Slade is criticised now for not playing the gifted players such as bigiamarana and Stevenson - the same gifted players who went on a ten March winless run at the start and a 7 game run of defeats from November until he turned up.

It's pretty obvious every player has had ample opportunity to perform and have all failed abysmally.

I have no belief any new manager would turn anything round at all but just be another whipping boy.

It's best just to let the whole debacle play out until the end.

People should really look at the whole season. We had a freak October - take that out and the season has been a list of desperate displays by an utterly hopeless and I suspect Ill disciplined squad of players. I suspect Slade isn't popular as he has tried to address the attitude issue.

The players need to go as well as the manager.

99% Nail on the head.

 

[Hobo]

We may be a lost cause this season. But it can be a valuable time in preparing for next season.

Now may not be the right time to get rid, but letting Slade along plod to the end of the season may not be right also.

 

[tigersb]

I have accepted we are going down , no point getting rid but I hope we don't try and retain him after may

If we keep him after May then anyone who buys a sesson ticket is demented

 

[oucho]

We've had three managers this season. None of them have been able to get these team playing and winning (although Venus's win ratio all of a sudden looks quite appealing!) Is there anything to suggest that bringing another new manager in could turn the tide? If not, we could bring someone in for the last 15 games, they only win a handful and questions are already being asked about whether they should stay on. If I honestly thought there was a chance someone could come in and get us playing and we finish the season on a high (even while still going down) then I would say go for it, as we would start next season with some optimism. As it stands, it might be best to leave it alone.

I think this is the same point Grendel is making, and I agree actually. Sometimes, just sometimes, he makes a hell of a lot of sense.

We can plan for next season whilst RS remains in place until May. Venus hopefully will not be part of the setup, though, so that does raise the question of who will be the mastermind behind our pre-pre-season planning; certainly I wouldn't want to leave it to Mr "I don't get paid and I do a few hours a week" Fisher.