Relegation thread (13 Viewers)

[Captain Dart]

we need to win the next 2
then the gap will be 3 or 4 points

Only if Bury, Oldham and Port Vale fail to win/draw some.

 

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[Gazolba]

<snip> Goodness knows how we've managed to come bottom of the pile in such a poor league.

Our leading league scorer (Tudgay) has 4 goals. Our next leading scorer (Willis) has 3 goals, and he is a defender not a striker.
Both our goal-keepers are crap and we've had three different managers just this season, all of whom have played different systems.

 

[lifeskyblue]

At this stage we just need to build on the gillingham win. Win the next two or three then see where we are. Just concentrate at the minute on ourselves...time to worry about the other teams if the gap narrows significantly


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[skybluesam66]

Only if Bury, Oldham and Port Vale fail to win/draw some.

we are playing bury in one of them

 

[Otis]

I cannot foresee 14 games without any draws.
We've currently drawn 10 in 32, so drawing about one in three.
So if that continues we can expect to draw 4-5 of the remaining games.

Chesterfield and Rochdale currently have the least draws and even they are drawing around one in five.

No, agree.

Just saying I can see us losing 6. We have Bradford, Scunthorpe and Sheff U to play and we will surely slip up elsewhere too.

If I can see us losing 6, therefore we would have to win 8.

As I say, I think it would be draws that would do us. With every draw would come the requirement for another win.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Our leading league scorer has 4 goals. Our next leading scorer has 3 goals, and he is a defender not a striker.
Both our goal-keepers are crap and we've had three different managers just this season, all of whom have played different systems.

I'm wondering more what has caused that to be the case.

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

One step at a time. Let's see if we can beat Swindon. Can't remember the last time we had back to back wins.

 

[skybluesam66]

One step at a time. Let's see if we can beat Swindon. Can't remember the last time we had back to back wins.

4 out of 5 when venus took over - the heady heights

 

[covcity4life]

4 out of 5 when venus took over - the heady heights

thats the thing. if we won 4 out of 5 then and we do similar again now hopefully it puts an end to myth that this squad is so bad it should lose every match and be bottom of league.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It's not a myth it's the reality

 

[covcity4life]

It's not a myth it's the reality

if a team wins 4 out of 5 two seperate times it shows the squad is not rock bottom calibre imo.

lets just focus on 2 in a row fr now though.

 

[no_loyalty]

A 5-0 home win for Millwall this evening would be nice

 

[Gazolba]

The number of draws I'd expect from the 14 remaining games is 5.
That gives us 5 points, and 9 games to accumulate the rest.
If we assume 51 points is the magic number, we need 21 more from those 9 games.
On that basis, 7 wins are needed, allowing only 2 defeats.

 

[Grendel]

thats the thing. if we won 4 out of 5 then and we do similar again now hopefully it puts an end to myth that this squad is so bad it should lose every match and be bottom of league.

No because you get judged over a season - not 4 or 5 games.

 

[Otis]

A good chance this weekend to make up some more points on those ahead of us perhaps.

Some of our rival teams have some tough games on paper.

Charlton v Bury

Chesterfield v Oxford

Port Vale v Bradford

Oldham v Millwall

Think this needs bumping.

This is who are rivals play this weekend. Fingers heavily crossed they go our way and we also win our game too.

They all look like tough games for those above us.

 

[oucho]

As Egon Spengler once said, "there's definitely a very slim chance we'll survive". That said, I do not believe we will.

 

[covcity4life]

funny how slim chance and fat chance mean same thing

 

[oucho]

My maths now tell me that to stay up we need to win something like two thirds of the 39 points that remain available to us, which is more than double the rate at which we have gained points this season, which is just under a quarter of the 99 points that we've played for thus far.

Further, to stay up would require us to win at least 7 of our remaining games, which is more than half of them now. We have won 5 out of 33 so far. It just seems too far gone.

We clearly have a sniff especially if we beat Bury but it would take a monumental turnaround to escape from this self inflicted quagmire.

 

[CJ_covblaze]

We have 7 games until Wembley and 6 afterwards. Granted the 5/6 teams immediately above us are shit. It's L1 so it's more like 20 but most of those are irrelevant to our situation. However during those 7 games it wouldn't surprise me if a couple of those sides gain a point a game more than us. If that happens we could be relegated before the final. It's probably more likely to be the week after but it's possible for it to happen the day before.

Not sure how I would feel if that happens. Especially if we win it. Would make it a very odd weekend no matter what the result on the Sunday.

 

[Chipfat]

History tells us teams do not get out of the situation we are in. The fact it's still a conversation shows a few still think it's a possibility and with games and points left it still is no matter how remote it is.

We need to win these next two and go from there, if these next 2 end in defeats it for me comes down to when and not if. Unfortunately Bury and Shrewsbury have shown some form lately and then Bradford after are a team that will be a little too strong for us I would think.

It's all guess work and opinion but this is a tough ask already.

 

[Liquid Gold]

we're down. end of discussion.

 

[mds]

we're down. end of discussion.

When we need 4 points from a max of 3, i`ll accept that. Ive watched us need to win the last three to stay up and we did, we USED to be fighters, when and only when it is mathematically impossible will i refuse to believe we may be able to stay up.
Altho under Slade playing the way we dont, yeah we are down!

 

[Gazolba]

In my opinion, after one more defeat, it's all over. We'll need to win or draw every remaining game and we aren't going to do that.
The teams above the drop zone are all picking up points. I think the bottom four now will most likely all go down.

 

[Otis]

My maths now tell me that to stay up we need to win something like two thirds of the 39 points that remain available to us, which is more than double the rate at which we have gained points this season, which is just under a quarter of the 99 points that we've played for thus far.

Further, to stay up would require us to win at least 7 of our remaining games, which is more than half of them now. We have won 5 out of 33 so far. It just seems too far gone.

We clearly have a sniff especially if we beat Bury but it would take a monumental turnaround to escape from this self inflicted quagmire.

You have to sit yourself down in front of the mirror, take a good long look at yourself, put your thinking head on and ask yourself 'Is this team capable at all of putting 3 or 4 back to back victories together? Even 2 or 3?'

The answer has to be a resounding no.

I think we will win the odd game here and there and I think we will draw a few, but I think we will be soon cut adrift.

Can we honestly make up 11 points? With THIS side? FIVE wins in 33 games and now we need 8 or 9 out of 13.

Got to keep going and we may well win against Bury on Tuesday, but this team is surely not capable and not good enough to produce such wonderful form that is surely needed to survive.

 

[Monners]

We are down. Time for everyone to get their heads around it.

 

[steve82]

The teams simply not up to it, the deeper issues are still there.
We could draft in a "pick of a manager" and there would still be nothing there. No manager could get anything from this group, it's a few "players" but not enough to compete

 

[covcity4life]

The teams simply not up to it, the deeper issues are still there.
We could draft in a "pick of a manager" and there would still be nothing there. No manager could get anything from this group, it's a few "players" but not enough to compete

Lol

 

[steve82]

Lol

Agree or disagree?

 

[covcity4life]

Agree or disagree?

Not gonna keep arguing.

You know exactly where i stand on this one

 

[steve82]

Not gonna keep arguing.

You know exactly where i stand on this one

Fair play, there's no argument from me... We've both our opinions, that's football.

 

[oucho]

When you think that in short order we played Chesterfield, Northampton, Oldham, Wimbledon, Gillingham and Swindon, and only won 1 of them, and drew just one more, that tells you all you need to know. The next two look similarly winnable but after that all the remaining games, with the dubious exception of MK away, are against teams way above us in the top half, most of whom at this point will still fancy a shot at the playoffs as a minimum.

 

[no_loyalty]

I'm predicting nil points from the next 2 games, just cannot see us getting anything at Bury or Shrewsbury

 

[Otis]

When you think that in short order we played Chesterfield, Northampton, Oldham, Wimbledon, Gillingham and Swindon, and only won 1 of them, and drew just one more, that tells you all you need to know. The next two look similarly winnable but after that all the remaining games, with the dubious exception of MK away, are against teams way above us in the top half, most of whom at this point will still fancy a shot at the playoffs as a minimum.

You asked anyone about a prediction for those games, Chesterfield, Northampton, Oldham, Wimbledon, Gillingham and Swindon a couple of months ago and I think even the most pessimistic of us would have predicted more than one single, solitary win.

 

[lifeskyblue]

I said d before the game yesterday we had to make the Ricoh a fortress and not lose at home for the rest of the season. We lost yesterday without a whimper...more a sandcastle that collapsed with the first wave than a fortress. We played a very poor team on a bad run of results who couldn't score. They outplayed, outfought and outscored us without really needing to break sweat. Cant see us getting enough points to finish anywhere other than 24th out of 24.


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[Otis]

I said d before the game yesterday we had to make the Ricoh a fortress and not lose at home for the rest of the season. We lost yesterday without a whimper...more a sandcastle that collapsed with the first wave than a fortress. We played a very poor team on a bad run of results who couldn't score. They outplayed, outfought and outscored us without really needing to break sweat. Cant see us getting enough points to finish anywhere other than 24th out of 24.


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We obviously didn't work on stopping Ajose. He just kept ghosting in while our defenders just stood by and watched.

What on earth was Turnbull doing for the first goal? He just stops, throws his arms up in the air and thinks the keeper will take it.

Similarly Clarke just stops and again passes on the responsibility to someone else.