Astute
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So the EU are totally blameless?
Says it all really. You and Mart can keep up with the back patting. Your partner is from the EU. He lives in the EU. I wonder why you are both so vocal.
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Says it all really. You and Mart can keep up with the back patting. Your partner is from the EU. He lives in the EU. I wonder why you are both so vocal.
Astute
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Just like you said would happen after the vote. And it didn't happen then either.
Astute
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Yeah we all hear you. You are OK. But not bothered about those who stayed in the UK who are affected by what has been forced upon us by the EU.
Astute
Well-Known Member
So you don't see the difference between one country having the same currency and lots of countries having the same currency?
No. Not if there is co-ordinated fiscal control of the common currency.
Really? You do know a lot about me - more than I do. I am very worried about what is about to be forced on you because of a referendum decided by a small minority and opinions based on some of the biggest lies ever in U.K. Politics - Blair's war being a possible exception.
Astute
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What you said about the USA is like our government spending most money down south and hardly anything in the rest of the UK but on a much larger scale. It is a disgrace how they treat millions of their own people. But it is nothing to do with them having one currency for one country as you say.
Probably because we know more about living in other countries than you do and can compare Daily Express, Mail etc. with other news outlets in Europe. We can also understand other EU news outlets because we can speak the language and don't need the media filter in the UK to translate what is going on.
You seem to be convinced that Brexit has happened. Why? We haven't even agreed on how to trigger article 50 yet.
Astute
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Referendum decided by a small minority? You are getting desperate now or are clueless. It was the highest turnout I ever remember. I suppose the only ones that couldn't be bothered to vote would have voted remain.
Astute
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Is that right? And you say that I don't know you.
Astute
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Nobody knows what will happen or when. But you seem to know everything.
Turnout and 52/48 are two different things. Ask Farage. He said if it were 52/48 it would mean "work to be done" as it would inconclusive.
You are the one claiming things haven't happened since Brexit, not me.
Ok. In which EU European mainland country have you lived? Sorry if I have got that wrong, but most people here/ in Britain haven't and rely on the British take on things - often from unreliable newspapers as sources.
Kingokings204
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For the last time. That comment meant nothing. He actually when pressed said it was to do with "unfinished business" in the Tory party. Nothing about not accepting the result and I doubt farage or anyone else would of taken the result of the referendum to the high court and pushed it though the lords whilst they were at it. Smacks of bad losers if you ask me. Fair play to the remoaners they don't go down without a fight even though we've had a clear result. Or is it in denial? You chose. The result will stay the same.
Kingokings204
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Yeah and we are all "lower educated" ....you forgot that one. We "bought it" remember.
Sick Boy
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Remoaners? Sounds like someone reads too much of the the Sun/Mail/Express.
It's difficult to take anyone seriously who users the terms remoaners/breshiteers.
What have the eurosceptics being doing for the last 40 years? Did they not accept a clear result? Did they just suck it up?
In the long-run the UK will end up trying to rejoin when Empire 2.0 is shown up for what it is..only this time it'll probably get rejected.
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Astute
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It is you that can't accept a clear result. Well over 1m more voted to leave than stay. But ever since you have made excuses including calling those who voted to leave racist and thick.
dutchman
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And that was despite 2m remainers being allowed to register to vote when they shouldn't have been.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
I haven't called all leave voters racist, I have highlighted and criticised the growing xenophobia in the country.
I even said I would happily drink beers with you in Italy.
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Sick Boy
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Like who? How did you manage to gain access to voting data? You are clearly a Trump disciple, so it is probably one of your alternative facts.
A fair few British citizens were denied a vote for having the audacity to leave and live in another country. Even in America you retain voting rights for life. I actually know of one of these people living in Italy who would have bizarrely voted leave, he regrets it now obviously.
No-one is disputing the result in the courts or the Lords. I don't know where you got that from. Farage when pressed about a supposedly clear statement wriggled and tried to twist it round. What a surprise.
52/48 would not be acceptable in most countries' parliaments or constitutions to enforce a major change like Brexit. Usually you need a two thirds majority.
Hardly a decisive vote. First past the post,yes. Not a convincing mandate though.
Not knowing the difference between turnout and majority doesn't help your case.
An Indian politician has already said that Empire 2.0 will go down like a lead balloon there.
But, apparently everyone is queuing up to deals with global Britain so nothing to worry about.
Junior partner to Trump seems like a good place to start.
A 4% majority is hardly a landslide vote.
Start an investigation into voter fraud. If what you are saying is true then we will have to vote again. You cannot have a valid Referendum with 2 million illegal votes.
dutchman
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It was widely reported at the time that 436,000 people were allowed to register after the official deadline for voter registration had expired and the vast majority of those were EU supporters. There was even talk of a legal challenge had the result favoured the remain campaign:
EU referendum poll voter registration deadline extended after website crash | Daily Mail Online
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Astute
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Those that registered late were mainly younger voters. And as we all know the large majority voted remain.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
The website had technical issues and so the deadline was extended. I'm still interested to know how your managed to gain access to all of this data on how pepole voted.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Let's just get on with renaming the place Air Strip One. The Daily Mail could be in charge of a daily 2 minutes of hate towards Barnier.
Well, one could still mount a legal challenge- illegal is illegal. Obviously the cannot be much chance of a re referendum or else someone else from remain would have challenged it.
Why bother with a referendum then? Just count how many are young and how many are old and apportion the votes accordingly.
dutchman
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The website had technical issues for two hours but the deadline was extended by two whole days during a period when ever increasing numbers were trying to register online.
By the way I unintentionally exaggerated the numbers who voted after the original deadline, it was only 436,000 not "two million", I must have been confusing it with the American election. (I was about to fall asleep and too tired to check the facts).
See Astute's post above yours.
It's debatable whether someone who no longer lives in this country should be allowed to vote who runs it. As it is anyone who had left up to 15 years earlier was allowed to vote as were the entire voting population of Gibraltar.
I am also dubious how many of the 'qualifying commonwealth citizens' who voted actually live here but that is a problem in all elections, not just the Referendum.
chiefdave
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How do you know those who were registering later voted remain? And wouldn't democracy be having as many people as possible voting, its sounding a bit like people can vote as long as they vote for the side I want to win.
Of course the solution is to hold the vote again, doubt there will be many leave voters pushing for that to happen.
Of course the solution is to hold the vote again, doubt there will be many leave voters pushing for that to happen.