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[hill83]

Yes I did say it's all down to our fickle fans...

My point is that us and Sheffield Utd are miles apart and are better in almost every possible way. That includes the fan base.



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A couple of thousand more even when we had Sisu in charge until relegation then the Sixfields debacle. I'm not going to debate over who is a bigger club as it's open to interpretation, but they've certainly had more success than us in recent years and have some actual hope. You know, things like a ground to play at after next season and other assorted luxuries.

 

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[Sky Blue Kid]

The reality is Sheffield United have consistently averaged 20,000 fans in the league - have consistently had a big budget - and haven't until this season achieved promotion.

Portsmouth in the division below are only achieving promotion this season after being by far the biggest team in that league.

The reality is these owners won't put any money in as no one will invest in something that's not likely to get a return

Read your own words matey!

 

[hill83]

Also let's not forget that they haven't averaged 20000 once in league one.

England historical attendance and performance

Nice guess though, but as you are a stickler for detail I thought it would be worth mentioning.

 

[ecky]

Whilst the parasite remains expect more of the same next year.

Robins will do his best whilst being hamstrung and having both hands tied behind his back.

I don't see where anything is going to change?

 

[Fergusons_Beard]

As per usual a post that blames Sisu for Sheffield Utd's success and not Ours descends into a slanging match.

Why is it that whenever a OP mentions SISU & there's a disagreement that this automatically means that they love SISU?

Sheffield Utd have better players and a better squad. They own their own ground and consistently get high attendances (even when they were in the old Div 3 &4). They have owners that have consistently invested in the squad.

What they haven't had for years is a decent manager (which they have now).

There's a whole lot of reasons why Utd are top and we are bottom-not all of them SISU's fault.

Managers, players and yes supporters are to blame (would we have lost at home to Sheff Utd this season if those protests didn't happen?).


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[GaryPendrysEyes]

As per usual a post that blames Sisu for Sheffield Utd's success and not Ours descends into a slanging match.

Why is it that whenever a OP mentions SISU & there's a disagreement that this automatically means that they love SISU?

Sheffield Utd have better players and a better squad. They own their own ground and consistently get high attendances (even when they were in the old Div 3 &4). They have owners that have consistently invested in the squad.

What they haven't had for years is a decent manager (which they have now).

There's a whole lot of reasons why Utd are top and we are bottom-not all of them SISU's fault.

Managers, players and yes supporters are to blame (would we have lost at home to Sheff Utd this season if those protests didn't happen?).


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You really need to understand that after 10 years of complete chaos on and off the pitch that the buck stops with the owners. It's really not difficult it the same with any business.
As to 'Sisu lovers' again if you had you eyes open and brain engaged you'd have seen year after year of subtle and none so subtle apologism from a mouthy handful on here. They are the ones who express undying love for the club whilst supporting those killing it, you couldn't make it up.

 

[ccfc_ukr]

Sheffield Utd have better players and a better squad.

Two of which are ex-city... oh the irony!

 

[Evo1883]

Look I hate SISU with the best of them , and nothing will change as long as they remain .

but when new owners (if they ever) take this club over , at some point the so called fans of this football club HAVE to start backing them consistently if they ever want to see their club rise again

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

As per usual a post that blames Sisu for Sheffield Utd's success and not Ours descends into a slanging match.

Why is it that whenever a OP mentions SISU & there's a disagreement that this automatically means that they love SISU?

Sheffield Utd have better players and a better squad. They own their own ground and consistently get high attendances (even when they were in the old Div 3 &4). They have owners that have consistently invested in the squad.

What they haven't had for years is a decent manager (which they have now).

There's a whole lot of reasons why Utd are top and we are bottom-not all of them SISU's fault.

Managers, players and yes supporters are to blame (would we have lost at home to Sheff Utd this season if those protests didn't happen?).


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Looking hard but.....
No it doesn't. It says the difference between the two Clubs is Sheff Utd owners invest in the team... That is why they're pushing for promotion.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Look I hate SISU with the best of them , and nothing will change as long as they remain .

but when new owners (if they ever) take this club over , at some point the so called fans of this football club HAVE to start backing them if they ever want to see their club rise again

I havent got any fears of the fans not coming back mate.. We're here waiting for those arseholes to fuck off

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

Sheffield Utd have better players and a better squad.

Two of which are ex-city... oh the irony!

One of which is a mercenary, and the other never really fullfilling his potential with CCFC. IMHO

 

[Brylowes]

Look I hate SISU with the best of them , and nothing will change as long as they remain .

but when new owners (if they ever) take this club over , at some point the so called fans of this football club HAVE to start backing them consistently if they ever want to see their club rise again

When the owners do their job (whoever they are) and back the club, so will the fans. IMO

 

[Nick]

When the owners do their job (whoever they are) and back the club, so will the fans. IMO

It makes the "city till I die" songs from Sunday seem even more ironic.

Will have to re-word it to "city till I tie if we are winning, if there's an offer on tickets, if I can get a freebie, if we play a big team, if we play at Wembley"

Owners come and go, fans don't pick and choose their football team.

 

[Captain Dart]

Also let's not forget that they haven't averaged 20000 once in league one.

England historical attendance and performance

Nice guess though, but as you are a stickler for detail I thought it would be worth mentioning.

Meanwhile under SISU ownership, Coventry City FC average attendance 2014-15 was 2.348.
Never mind Sheffield Utd, look at the mess those hedge fund bastards have made of this club.

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

It makes the "city till I die" songs from Sunday seem even more ironic.

Will have to re-word it to "city till I tie if we are winning, if there's an offer on tickets, if I can get a freebie, if we play a big team, if we play at Wembley"

Owners come and go, fans don't pick and choose their football team.

You talk some "Utter Bollocks" at times.

 

[Nick]

You talk some "Utter Bollocks" at times.

What's bollocks about that?

Go back and sit on your armchair and make your excuses and moan about investment, didn't take long for the hypocrisy to start again.

 

[Skybluefaz]

You talk some "Utter Bollocks" at times.

It's not bollocks though is it. Fans shouldn't abandon their football club because of the owners. We'd be in a much better position to achieve success if half of the Wembley crew turned up most weeks.

 

[Brylowes]

It makes the "city till I die" songs from Sunday seem even more ironic.

Will have to re-word it.

Look Nick I've spent thousands of pounds and thousands of hours supporting my team From
a distance for 30 + years, the one thing I always had was hope, hope that this just might be
The year. As far as I can make out all hope has been extinguished at this club, the owners
Openly tell us they're not putting anything in, so why the fuck should I.

To attend a game costs me £200 odd quid and a full day, if the owners were doing their job
I wouldn't have a problem with that, but how can I justify it now.
Of course if I lived round the corner like you, I'd have a ST and be a super fan like you.

 

[Nick]

Look Nick I've spent thousands of pounds and thousands of hours supporting my team From
a distance for 30 + years, the one thing I always had was hope, hope that this just might be
The year. As far as I can make out all hope has been extinguished at this club, the owners
Openly tell us they're not putting anything in, so why the fuck should I.

To attend a game costs me £200 odd quid and a full day, if the owners were doing their job
I wouldn't have a problem with that, but how can I justify it now.
Of course if I lived round the corner like you, I'd have a ST and be a super fan like you.

Who said anything about Super Fan? It seems the only people wanting medals are when the posts are along the lines of yours trying to be a moral hero.

If you don't want to support the club then it's fine, just note the irony when you moan about investment and wage budgets.

 

[Grendel]

Also let's not forget that they haven't averaged 20000 once in league one.

England historical attendance and performance

Nice guess though, but as you are a stickler for detail I thought it would be worth mentioning.

Well...

League One 2016/2017 - Attendance

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

It's not bollocks though is it. Fans shouldn't abandon their football club because of the owners. We'd be in a much better position to achieve success if half of the Wembley crew turned up most weeks.

Therein lies the problem. We DID have regular gates of 20-24k when SISU bought(I use that term loosely) CCFC. Season upon season of bad management sees us where we are now. Fans have proven what gates are achievable. Don't misplace loyalty for fan fickleness. The vast majority of the CCFC fans at Wembley want to be at the Ricoh every other week but see that it doesn't matter if they paid £100 or a 100 pence for a ticket, NONE of it goes back into the team to make it successful. Trust me when I say this. This Football Club is a "Sleeping Giant" and when the right owners are in place will show the whole of British Football that a Poxy 12k Stadium is nowhere near big enough for the fans of Coventry City FC.

 

[Nick]

Therein lies the problem. We DID have regular gates of 20-24k when SISU bought(I use that term loosely) CCFC. Season upon season of bad management sees us where we are now. Fans have proven what gates are achievable. Don't misplace loyalty for fan fickleness. The vast majority of the CCFC fans at Wembley want to be at the Ricoh every other week but see that it doesn't matter if they paid £100 or a 100 pence for a ticket, NONE of it goes back into the team to make it successful. Trust me when I say this. This Football Club is a "Sleeping Giant" and when the right owners are in place will show the whole of British Football that a Poxy 12k Stadium is nowhere near big enough for the fans of Coventry City FC.

So none of the ticket money goes towards the team? Have a word.

I miss the weekend, it was bullshit free.

Fans have proven what attendance is achieved if it's an occasion. Nothing more.

 

[italiahorse]

Sheffield united have been in this league - what 6 seasons?

The Sisu spokesman defends the Sisu cause again. He has the club he deserves?

 

[Nick]

The Sisu spokesman defends the Sisu cause again. He has the club he deserves?

fuck me, as well as bullshit we have the irony out to play.

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Well hopefully we'll get the chance to see if the fans come back when we have a change of ownership. But the minute there is no success on the pitch, the numbers will dwindle again, so I believe what Nick said is correct.
What were we averaging at home for the first half of the 2015-16 season when we were top at Christmas? I am guessing, but I reckon around 15-16K. THAT was under SISU's ownership, and with Mowbray as manager. City fans only seem to want to see success. (Note that L1 and L2 attendances fluctuate quite a bit depending on who you are playing, because of the away following from some seriously small clubs)
As for the 2.3K season average the year before, that was when we were at Northampton, which cannot be regarded as a normal situation.

Portsmouth have been the "biggest" club in L2 for a few seasons, and have been getting close on 20K all the time due to their ownership model. But it is only now that they are pushing for promotion - now that they have a new majority shareholder who is willing to invest.

I want #SISUOUT, but I don't think we'll see overnight success in terms of big crowds. That will come with results on the pitch.

I'll be there Saturday to cheer on MY CLUB, even though chances are we'll be down by 5 o'clock

Play Up Sky Blues!

 

[Fergusons_Beard]

You really need to understand that after 10 years of complete chaos on and off the pitch that the buck stops with the owners. It's really not difficult it the same with any business.
As to 'Sisu lovers' again if you had you eyes open and brain engaged you'd have seen year after year of subtle and none so subtle apologism from a mouthy handful on here. They are the ones who express undying love for the club whilst supporting those killing it, you couldn't make it up.

No mention of Sisu lovers.

What about the owners before SISU? Did anyone blame them for our success?

Sheff Utd / Coventry Chalk and Cheese.

My eyes are wide open pal, wide enough to see the whole picture not the bullshit, spin media bollocks that is so readily swallowed by those with sub-level intelligence.

Where was the blame when we bought Fox, Dann, Westwood, Gunnarson etc and that investment brought nothing.

Was THAT SISUs fault too?




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[Brylowes]

It's not bollocks though is it. Fans shouldn't abandon their football club because of the owners. We'd be in a much better position to achieve success if half of the Wembley crew turned up most weeks.

Half the Wembley crew DID used to turn up most weeks, the owners failed to engage With them,
the owners failed in the day to day running of the club.
They made supporting CCFC more about off-field woes and angst, than what it's supposed To be
about 'you know" hope, good times, disappointment, atmosphere, camaraderie, anticipation, joy,
Mates, rivalry,.......... and as a result lost a large proportion of the fanbase,
It's not Rocket science, the same thing would happen at any club.

 

[Grendel]

The Sisu spokesman defends the Sisu cause again. He has the club he deserves?

Can you explain how that statement offers any defence of sisu. The fact is even at £10 a head their revenue this season is what - £2.7 million more than ours?

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

So none of the ticket money goes towards the team? Have a word.

I miss the weekend, it was bullshit free.

Fans have proven what attendance is achieved if it's an occasion. Nothing more.

And going to "Support SISU at Sixfields proved some fans will take a beating, roll over and say Beat me again."

 

[Astute]

The reality is Sheffield United have consistently averaged 20,000 fans in the league

We were averaging over 20,000 when SISU took over.

 

[italiahorse]

fuck me, as well as bullshit we have the irony out to play.

... and then we have the ones that defend Sisu and Grendel.

 

[Nick]

And going to "Support SISU at Sixfields proved some fans will take a beating, roll over and say Beat me again."

I went to support CCFC you retard. You know, "city till I die"?

 

[Nick]

... and then we have the ones that defend Sisu and Grendel.

Point out where I defended either?

I pointed out the irony in what you said.

Are people genuinely this stupid, seriously?

 

[italiahorse]

Can you explain how that statement offers any defence of sisu. The fact is even at £10 a head their revenue this season is what - £2.7 million more than ours?

So it's the fans fault. They need to turn up and support a poorly funded team first?
Now where have I heard that before?

 

[italiahorse]

I went to support CCFC you retard. You know, "city till I die"?

Supporting would be 'not' going to Sixfields in this case.
It just delayed the return and gave Sisu a false hope that more would follow.