Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations (61 Viewers)
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Grendel
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Reject what exactly? A bid to take over or a deal to stay at the stadium?
stevefloyd
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To be honest I could make a bid and leave everyone speculating like these rumours, but I am pre guessing Joy and her chums would'nt really take my bid too serious either...its one thing to try and get peoples hopes up that are clutching at straws its another thing trying to appease the locusts there
Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue
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Seems like a certain Italian Horse has tried to get people's hopes up of a takeover, for no reason other than a personal kick.
Fuck Wasps and your spaghetti!
Fuck Wasps and your spaghetti!
SkyblueBazza
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You're going on a bit NickNo, because if it is a great offer then I will say that it's a great offer. It's not hard to understand.
I'm not displaying faux anger at Italia, I have said he has back tracked (as have others) from how he was portraying it before and how it reads more like a PR stunt the way he is saying things. Have others who have repeated rumours given it the "I guess you will be backing SISU come Wednesday" and stuff like that?
Where have SISU been defended in any of it in terms of Italia's rumour? What's more predictable is using that bullshit because I have pointed out it looks like it could be a PR stunt to get everybody worked up. The whole "Everybody get ready to be angry at SISU" type comments make it look that way.
If it is a PR stunt then no doubt you will be on at people who question it or try to gather more information about it like you were with the £51,987.35 offer from KCIC to buy the club debt free. Looking back you were quite worked up when anybody asked anything about it because they weren't just getting angry at SISU for rejecting it. :emoji_clap: Apparently people who asked Michael questions about it were doing "SISU's spin". You even called somebody a "spin doctor" and a "fan" because they asked these about that KCIC offer:
Your reply:
In reply to somebody saying he was just asking questions, you said:
Yeah. Looks like you are the predictable one in all of this using the "defending SISU" line when they clearly aren't.
The other good ones were when somebody asked decent questions about how the offer would work, not stupid ones or abusive and your clever replies were to just bang on about asking SISU about the new stadium.
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Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue
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If god forbid one day we get taken over, we need a clearout from top to bottom, in all areas of the club!
Fisher Out, Sepalla Out, Igwe Out, Brody Out, SISU Out, Slade Out, Oggy Out, Wasps Out, Coventry Council Out, Alan Higgs Out, Sharp Out, Linnel Out, Foster Out, Nick Out, Italia Horse Out, Grendel Out, EarlsdonSkyBlue Out, Hoffman Out, Elliot Out ....imagine trying to get all that on a banner!
Fisher Out, Sepalla Out, Igwe Out, Brody Out, SISU Out, Slade Out, Oggy Out, Wasps Out, Coventry Council Out, Alan Higgs Out, Sharp Out, Linnel Out, Foster Out, Nick Out, Italia Horse Out, Grendel Out, EarlsdonSkyBlue Out, Hoffman Out, Elliot Out ....imagine trying to get all that on a banner!
Kingokings204
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I'm still not convinced by this rumour you know.
Corrado
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It's because it's about the 100th bullshit rumour that some sad fuck has started to create attention. It's funny how it's allways "I've heard something from MY source but I can't say what it is" just fuck off cretins!
I still find myself reading the threads tho
rupert_bear
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I think it is pretty certain there are moves afoot to try and wrestle the club from sisu, I also think Sepalla and Coleman would like to get rid too, they and their business are not awash with money, unlike the Charlton owner who can just sit back with his billions and smile at the antics of the Charlton fans.
We have these Hoffman rumours doing the rounds...again.. and this latest Aussie possible interest, that wouldn't be a bad one if we think about it comes with a ready maybe goalkeeper coach in Mark Schwarzer, might still be good enough to play ! What I'm certain will happen if any of this speculation bares fruit is it will happen very quietly, no on going banner headlines and sisu will slink off into the night, they are a Hedgefund, that's what they do, as little publicity as possible, fingers crossed something materialises, in my opinion we are staring at the abyss.
We have these Hoffman rumours doing the rounds...again.. and this latest Aussie possible interest, that wouldn't be a bad one if we think about it comes with a ready maybe goalkeeper coach in Mark Schwarzer, might still be good enough to play ! What I'm certain will happen if any of this speculation bares fruit is it will happen very quietly, no on going banner headlines and sisu will slink off into the night, they are a Hedgefund, that's what they do, as little publicity as possible, fingers crossed something materialises, in my opinion we are staring at the abyss.
Esoterica
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Fuck off you heartless prick. It took a lot of courage for me to open up about my tortoise dying and you think you can just click your shiny red heels together and purge it do you Dorothy?!!!
clint van damme
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the bit about shares make sense and I've had my suspicions that some of the info gathered in the trust survey was done so on behalf of a third party.
i'd definitely be interested in taking up on a shares offer.
rupert_bear
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Another thing, owning a football club nowadays costs big money and you need people with big money, I don't think Gary Hoffman is at that level, but he could be stalking horse seeing what it might take to get sisu to atleast cock an ear and listen.
Just getting some idea of a price would be something.
Just getting some idea of a price would be something.
clint van damme
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I dont think you need big money to reach the lower reaches of the chamionship and that can be achieved with the right break even model.
Anything above that realistically need bank rolling though there will always be an exception.
Sky Blue Kid
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This is indeed true. They have black skin and colourless fur.Polar bears are not white either
Going off topic a little (and this may have already been mentioned elsewhere on the forum) but I heard a Talksport interview with Brighton's chief exec the day after they won promotion. Jim White was saying how Brighton have proved that you can get it right with the right owners, in this case the owner is a Brighton fan. But, then the chief exec mentioned that the owner had put £250m into the Club and they had for the last few years been losing £25m a year. They gambled on promotion and got it, but surely if they had gone another few years in the Championship then they would have been on their arse (with the owner most likely protested against for bringing the club to its knees financially!) Is someone really ever going to come into CCFC and invest that kind of money and take that risk?
ajsccfc
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Ooh blimey. New plan, purge the nonsense football stuff, keep all animal and pet talk. I can only apologise for the oversight on behalf of my organisation xx
Rugby Union is not massive down under, not sure where you've got that from, its probably the 4th/5th most popular sport. Voice of nonsense.
italiahorse
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It's unlikely to meet Sisu losses but I'm advised (but don't know the details) it will be a reasonable offer.
What we don't want is people like you taking a Sisu approach and straight batting it,
Fans need to get behind it as we need Sisu out regardless.
We should be getting Sisu phone numbers and emails and contacting them directly with our views.
I've got my list ready.
Liquid Gold
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Share your list (pm them if necessary) if it appears to be a decent offer then I'll join in the barage.
SkyBlueRuffian
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Surfing and shark dodging is number 1
robbiekeane
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Honest question. Let's forget all the fun and games and just be real for a minute - do you genuinely think that Nick, or anyone else, takes a "SISU approach" or "defends SISU"?
As I say, serious question - if you do then there's no hope and I'll save a lot of time
italiahorse
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covcity4life
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i hope that its just italias personal view that it will be rejected and we should get angry
would be disappointed if the actual bidders are putting an offer in just to get it rejected and get fans on their side.
would be disappointed if the actual bidders are putting an offer in just to get it rejected and get fans on their side.
fernandopartridge
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weecohawena
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I'm starting to think this rumour my not be true. Anyone else get this feeling?
Sky Blue Kid
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Does this help?......
League attendance of team sports
Competition Sport Total
spectatorship Average
attendance Year Ref
Australian Football League Australian football 6,872,005 33,198 2016 [96]
Big Bash League Cricket 1,053,997 30,114 2016–17 [97][98]
Super Rugby Rugby union 773,940 19,348 2012 [99]
National Rugby League Rugby league 3,227,436 16,057 2016 [100]
A-League Soccer 1,778,844 12,706 2015–16 [101]
National Basketball League Basketball 574,813 5,132 2013–14 [102]
National Rugby Championship Rugby union 87,704 2,249 2014
Total attendance by sport
Sport Total
spectatorship Average
attendance Year Ref
Australian football 7,150,586 30,044 2016 [103]
Cricket 1,756,131 24,734 2016–17 [104][105]
Rugby union 771,521 18,818 2016 [106]
Rugby league 3,589,789 16,619 2016 [107]
Soccer 2,502,789 13,242 2015–16 [108]
Basketball 316,018 6,724 2015–16 [109]
League attendance of team sports
Competition Sport Total
spectatorship Average
attendance Year Ref
Australian Football League Australian football 6,872,005 33,198 2016 [96]
Big Bash League Cricket 1,053,997 30,114 2016–17 [97][98]
Super Rugby Rugby union 773,940 19,348 2012 [99]
National Rugby League Rugby league 3,227,436 16,057 2016 [100]
A-League Soccer 1,778,844 12,706 2015–16 [101]
National Basketball League Basketball 574,813 5,132 2013–14 [102]
National Rugby Championship Rugby union 87,704 2,249 2014
Total attendance by sport
Sport Total
spectatorship Average
attendance Year Ref
Australian football 7,150,586 30,044 2016 [103]
Cricket 1,756,131 24,734 2016–17 [104][105]
Rugby union 771,521 18,818 2016 [106]
Rugby league 3,589,789 16,619 2016 [107]
Soccer 2,502,789 13,242 2015–16 [108]
Basketball 316,018 6,724 2015–16 [109]
Nick
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Fans will get behind it if we know more about the actual offer.
"straight batting it", is that the same as asking questions about it to get more information?
It's exactly like that KCIC offer where people were asking decent questions directly to the person on here making the offer and got abuse for it.
All you are doing is making it look like a PR stunt.
stupot07
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A couple of years old but...
Even TV union popularity is right down the pecking order
http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/5488-sports-viewing-on-tv-201403140213
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Nick
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What are you going on about with the "get ready to back your side"?
It's embarrassing.
weecohawena
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"Straight batting it" or "calling bullshit on it"?
Captain Dart
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It may be the value SISU place on the club is incredible but the offers are credible.
Sky Blue Kid
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A couple of years old but...
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That's over 8 years old mate!
Nick
Administrator
Or even just trying to find out more information about it.
It's exactly the same as when KCIC did that offer, anybody who asked any sort of question was defending SISU.
It's laughable.
RegTheDonk
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I dunno, too many variables. Why would 4 "wealthy" men only muster 80% of the bid? You would think it must be a pretty sizeable amount. And if so, what guarantees can they give to SISU that 20% can be raised by fans? Do they really expect honest but average wage fans to be able to put up the other 20%, without any forethought or consultation?
Gut feeling yes. Though I did find it extremely plausable that Hoff would take his wing man Joe to a meeting with the head of WASPs...just get his kid on their netball team. :shifty: