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shmmeee

shmmeee

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ccfc92 said:
I suppose, you may be right on the weed.

With the minimum wage, it'd only work if living costs remained the same, which would have to be enforced on employers. Otherwise you could be on £10 an hour, but bread is £3, a pint is £6, fuel £2/L etc
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Why would the price of bread go up? Are you suggesting people on NMW have nothing to spend money on?

More money in people's pockets = more money spent on goods and services = more money in the economy = more jobs.

Obviously there's a limit but we are nowhere near it. Much like borrowing to invest really. We have an economy built around consumerism it'd be a good idea to have as many people as possible able to take part in it.

I agree that there are some stupid policies out there (funnily enough the absolute worst is from the party likely to win: banning encryption - both insane and impossible), but the two you've picked aren't them. Both would be workable and probably provide a significant boost to the economy.

As for who to vote for: here's a crazy idea - look at the actual people you are voting for to represent you and pick the one you like. You aren't voting for a PM, you're voting for a local rep.
 
ccfc92

ccfc92

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shmmeee said:
Why would the price of bread go up? Are you suggesting people on NMW have nothing to spend money on?

More money in people's pockets = more money spent on goods and services = more money in the economy = more jobs.

Obviously there's a limit but we are nowhere near it. Much like borrowing to invest really. We have an economy built around consumerism it'd be a good idea to have as many people as possible able to take part in it.

I agree that there are some stupid policies out there (funnily enough the absolute worst is from the party likely to win: banning encryption - both insane and impossible), but the two you've picked aren't them. Both would be workable and probably provide a significant boost to the economy.

As for who to vote for: here's a crazy idea - look at the actual people you are voting for to represent you and pick the one you like. You aren't voting for a PM, you're voting for a local rep.
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Not at all, it's just an example. I could have used bread, milk, cakes, fuel, beer, TV's, cars....

Well if the minimum wage goes up, the cost of producing the wheat and flour goes up, the baker's wage goes up, the shop selling it offsets the costs to the consumer. Now, if the "big companies" took a hit on their huge profits, to offset the costs, it will work the MW being £10 an hour, but somehow I doubt that will be the case?

The only way people will be better off financially, is if wages rose and the cost of living remained the same. But this is very unrealistic as big companies won't want to take the hit, wouldn't you agree?
 
Philosoraptor

Philosoraptor

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So, the latest poll of polls is in, which is always good to look at. I think its getting closer to assume there are going to be major changes in West Midlands Labour including their Coventry branch.

Is there such a thing as political redundancies for MPs and councillors of the right wing of the party or do they just get asked quietly to step down?
 
Captain Dart

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Grendel

Grendel

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Liquid Gold said:
You need another layer of tin foil you fucking nut job.
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Id say a fucking nut job is someone who defends the bombing of innocent men, women and children on uk soil.

This week when asked if he condemned the IRA he said no.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Ian1779 said:
That's bollocks - he said he condemned ALL bombings. If you can't understand what that means the issue is yours.
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He was asked a question "will you condemn the IRA" why did he say no I condemn all bombings? As far as I'm aware Mr Corbyn has not ever attended funerals of Ulster Unionists has he?

Even Alan Johnson laughed on This Week when asked about it. It's a known fact Corbyn was an IRA sympathiser - if that sits well with you that's fine.
 
Ian1779

Ian1779

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Grendel said:
He was asked a question "will you condemn the IRA" why did he say no I condemn all bombings? As far as I'm aware Mr Corbyn has not ever attended funerals of Ulster Unionists has he?

Even Alan Johnson laughed on This Week when asked about it. It's a known fact Corbyn was an IRA sympathiser - if that sits well with you that's fine.
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So the word ALL is not good enough for you?

Terrorism doesn't sit well with anyone - for you to suggest that Corbyn defended the killing of innocent people is nonsense.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Ian1779 said:
So the word ALL is not good enough for you?

Terrorism doesn't sit well with anyone - for you to suggest that Corbyn defended the killing of innocent people is nonsense.
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Really? Why was he arrested once at a rally in support of Patrick Magee, why did he campaign for better prison conditions for convicted IRA murderers, why did he attend the funeral of the dispicable Bobby Sands.

For someone who condemned all bombing he seemed awfully pally and supportive of well....bombers.
 
Liquid Gold

Liquid Gold

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Grendel said:
Id say a fucking nut job is someone who defends the bombing of innocent men, women and children on uk soil.

This week when asked if he condemned the IRA he said no.
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HAHAHAA! He said he condemned bombing in all forms. I'm happy to debate with reasonable people like Earlsdon but you're just an antagonistic prick.
 
ccfc92

ccfc92

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Liquid Gold said:
Armed forces don't necessarily have to be used for war. They can be used for peace keeping and I think that's the sort of role JC has in mind.
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You're right, but an increase in military spending on an army that won't be used? Seem's a waste of public funds, surely?
 
Liquid Gold

Liquid Gold

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ccfc92 said:
You're right, but an increase in military spending on an army that won't be used? Seem's a waste of public funds, surely?
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Our army is under equipped. Equiping then properly in preparation to defend innocent people and prevent conflict is what I think a modern professional armed forces should be used for.
 
ccfc92

ccfc92

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Liquid Gold said:
Our army is under equipped. Equiping then properly in preparation to defend innocent people and prevent conflict is what I think a modern professional armed forces should be used for.
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Completely agree.

But surely defending innocent people leads to conflict?
 
Liquid Gold

Liquid Gold

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ccfc92 said:
Completely agree.

But surely defending innocent people leads to conflict?
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It depends to what degree. I think we need to use the balklands in the 90s as a model. Use armed forces to protect civilians and engage when hastily forces try and interrupt.

I'm going to stop now 92 I've had a drink and I don't want to be a prick. Have a good evening mate.
 
ccfc92

ccfc92

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Liquid Gold said:
It depends to what degree. I think we need to use the balklands in the 90s as a model. Use armed forces to protect civilians and engage when hastily forces try and interrupt.

I'm going to stop now 92 I've had a drink and I don't want to be a prick. Have a good evening mate.
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No, that's fair enough. We don't know the answers, we are all human after all.

Same here, just wish the the world could get on and have a drink!
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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Grendel said:
Id say a fucking nut job is someone who defends the bombing of innocent men, women and children on uk soil.

This week when asked if he condemned the IRA he said no.
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You described the soldiers involved in Bloody Sunday as doing their job the other week...
 
Liquid Gold

Liquid Gold

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ccfc92 said:
No, that's fair enough. We don't know the answers, we are all human after all.

Same here, just wish the the world could get on and have a drink!
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