The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (26 Viewers)

As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .

Liquid Gold

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BoJo now saying the Eu can 'Shove Off' with the divorce bill demands. He's just playing to the gallery to get the top job because that bill is being discussed as we speak.
 

Astute

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BoJo now saying the Eu can 'Shove Off' with the divorce bill demands. He's just playing to the gallery to get the top job because that bill is being discussed as we speak.
As I said earlier they are all full of shit.
 

Sick Boy

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I fully agree. I love Italy, the people and the food. I love drinking Peroni at less than people drink pisswater like Carling here. I love driving in Milan. I have seen the country go seriously downhill in recent years. It is sad to see.

The country going downhill is down to successive governments, especially during the Belesconi era.

By the way, Nastro Azzuro is considered to be pisswater in Italy, there's a reason why it's the beer on offer at the Auto Grills. They are just very good at marketing ;).
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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All they've asked is that the UK pays what it should do. The likes of Johnson are doing us no favours.

As I said earlier they can take it out of the rental charges for the buildings we have funded, look Europe will manage well without us I am sure as places like Albania can make up the shortfall, they will have to make it difficult for us as if it was easy a few others might go as well.
 

Sick Boy

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As I said earlier they can take it out of the rental charges for the buildings we have funded, look Europe will manage well without us I am sure as places like Albania can make up the shortfall, they will have to make it difficult for us as if it was easy a few others might go as well.

Hang on, I though that it was Turkey on the verge of joining? Is it now Albania?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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Hang on, I though that it was Turkey on the verge of joining? Is it now Albania?

I don't know just picked Albania as it is early in the alphabet and the first that came to mind, but let's be honest if they are not already in the group they can't be brilliant as there are already loads in it, these other countries are the also rans
 

Grendel

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I don't know just picked Albania as it is early in the alphabet and the first that came to mind, but let's be honest if they are not already in the group they can't be brilliant as there are already loads in it, these other countries are the also rans

Macedonia are next most likely and then Albania Kosovo and the remainder of the balkans
 

Kingokings204

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Macedonia are next most likely and then Albania Kosovo and the remainder of the balkans

They will make up our money contributions. NOT

They are trying to eat every penny as they need it and the threats and bullying is seen as desperation. Wait until the other countries have to pay to make up the shortfall. Mix that in with banking crisis in the southern countries and the immigrant crisis and no wonder you can't keep everyone happy.
 

Kingokings204

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All they've asked is that the UK pays what it should do. The likes of Johnson are doing us no favours.

What by plucking a figure out the air and then doubling it a week later for good measure to 100b. Yeah let's just hand it over.
 

Kingokings204

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The country going downhill is down to successive governments, especially during the Belesconi era.

By the way, Nastro Azzuro is considered to be pisswater in Italy, there's a reason why it's the beer on offer at the Auto Grills. They are just very good at marketing ;).

Wasn't bulesconi removed because he stuck up for then Italian people and replaced by the EU with a Goldman Sachs puppet?
 

Brylowes

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That is the problem. Many voted remain because the lies to get the leave vote were easy to see. We were told that we were in massive trouble if we voted leave. Shares were supposed to crash. Millions of jobs would be lost. But it didn't happen. People wouldn't be scared to vote leave if it happened again.
But we haven't left yet have we, when we do the repercussions will be felt over many Years,
but every single economist worth his salt is convinced it will happen.
When rot sets into your house, it will not fall down overnight, but it will fall down eventually,
The people predicting a rosy future for the UK post Brexit, don't seem to have anything much,
And definitely nothing substantial to base those predictions on.
 

Grendel

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What happened to Turkey?

Well the EU has in the past praised it for its democratic standards. However, it's issues with Cyprus and the anti Muslim agenda of some EU stated will mean despite those "standards" it's unlikely to make it on the next ten years.
 

Astute

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They will make up our money contributions. NOT

They are trying to eat every penny as they need it and the threats and bullying is seen as desperation. Wait until the other countries have to pay to make up the shortfall. Mix that in with banking crisis in the southern countries and the immigrant crisis and no wonder you can't keep everyone happy.
There are only a few countries in the whole of the EU that are net contributors. Nearly all take out more than they put in. That is why by hook or by crook they want us to stay in.
 

Astute

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What happened to Turkey?
The EU can't afford them to join if we leave. They won't be able to afford what they already have unless Germany pumps more Billions in to cover us leaving. That is why they are shitting themselves.
 

Astute

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But we haven't left yet have we, when we do the repercussions will be felt over many Years,
but every single economist worth his salt is convinced it will happen.
When rot sets into your house, it will not fall down overnight, but it will fall down eventually,
The people predicting a rosy future for the UK post Brexit, don't seem to have anything much,
And definitely nothing substantial to base those predictions on.
So they all think it is better for us to stay?
 

Astute

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Fair enough, I honestly don't know. I just know he was removed and replaced with a puppet from the EU that caused a bit of a stir at the time.
I thought it was because what he is like with women and him being in it for himself.
 

martcov

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Would love to see you win. But you won't beat them though. That is unless you are a billionaire. You could easily get away with it then.

If I were a billionaire I would have a compliance department which would ensure that everything is correct. I would also have a tax lawyer to ensure that my taxable profit was somewhere where they cannot get at it. That is exactly what our taxman star in Kiel says to his bosses. Don't waste your resources checking big companies. Do the "small and smallest" rigorously -in particular small caterers, publicans and plumbers etc.- that way the "Ausbeute" ( booty ) will be higher. They don't have the time or resources or knowledge not to make mistakes. This guy invented a system supported by a program based on Excel to do just that. Schäuble and co. love him. He is now a lecturer at the tax academy and makes a fortune giving lectures to other tax offices and publishing course books for the taxman's exams. His wife, who works in the same office as him - did my tax inspection - it and the disputes about it have been going on 3 years now. But fxxk them, I will keep fighting and I am not the only one.
 

skybluetony176

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The EU can't afford them to join if we leave. They won't be able to afford what they already have unless Germany pumps more Billions in to cover us leaving. That is why they are shitting themselves.

Turkey has been "joining" the EU for 30 years, they have to agree some 20 odd conditions before they can join, they've only started discussions on a dozen of those and come to an agreement in that time on zero, they won't recognise Cyprus which is a massive hurdle they'll have to get over if they join, they even withdrew from talks altogether while Cyprus held the EU presidency and their human rights record was a problem when it was improving and it's got worse in the last eight years or so under the current regime. They're further away from joining now than they were when they first applied to join.
 
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