The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (79 Viewers)

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%

  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
Sick Boy

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Grendel said:
Yep. Liquid Gold is joining in on the Brexit lies and Sick boy is liking the lies.
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Priceless. You're the one who got duped into voting for a bunch of liars claiming the EU would get £350M a week, and went and voted for them again.

Good to see Alan Partridge is making a return as the voice of Brexit, you'd probably get along famously.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Sick Boy said:
Priceless. You're the one who got duped into voting for a bunch of liars claiming the EU would get £350M a week, and went and voted for them again.

Good to see Alan Partridge is making a return as the voice of Brexit, you'd probably get along famously.
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So was liquid gold lying - yes or no?
 
Grendel

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martcov said:
I thought Lord Sugar was the one suggesting prosecution for Brexit lies - especially for Gove and the buffoon BoJo.
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So you and sick boy now ally yourself to our very own Donald Trump

Oh mart wasn't there a little animal welfare issue in Europe today? Can you enlighten us or shall I?
 
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martcov

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Grendel said:
So you and sick boy now ally yourself to our very own Donald Trump

Oh mart wasn't there a little animal welfare issue in Europe today? Can you enlighten us or shall I?
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By pointing out that more prominent people are now condemning lies I am allying myself with the Liar in Chief...'Mr Brexit' friend of Farage.. Trump???????

Which animal welfare case? The one where a poisonous substance was found in eggs? Control System worked and eggs withdrawn from system. That one?
 
Captain Dart

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Sick Boy said:
Nice deflection away from your own contradictions. Are you disputing the fact that food prices have risen?

To eat the same quality of food will inevitably become more expensive, if not more and more difficult for the majority of people. Eating mass produced hlorine washed chicken and hormone injected beef would become the norm. I'm surprised you aren't more outraged considering that you see to have great affection for animals?

Fair enough if your happy for you and your children to eat inferior quality food and to see even lower standards on animal welfare, I most certainly am not.
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So try the alternative of salmonella and pesticide laden eggs from the EU.
 
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martcov

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Captain Dart said:
So try the alternative of salmonella and pesticide laden eggs from the EU.
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Slight difference to Chlor chickens. The pesticide used was not licensed for use with the food supply. It is used for delousing dogs etc.. The people who used it for disinfecting chicken farms have just been arrested and charged- amongst other things - for using illegal pesticides. A criminal case. Still the U.K. doesn't have to put up with the regulations which ban this product. Less bureaucracy...
 
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scubasteve

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The question people should be asking is why are we importing chicken eggs from holland? Surely we can produce enough eggs in this country, wouldn't it be cheaper to get eggs sourced locally, less transport costs, lower carbon foot print as they are not shipped and transported 300+ miles, fresher.
 
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wingy

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I'm more interested that our own body is so relaxed to the point where people would be OK eating those eggs and they may have.
Plus it's took five days to ascertain that there were 680K more of them in the supply than they originally thought.
 
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martcov

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scubasteve said:
The question people should be asking is why are we importing chicken eggs from holland? Surely we can produce enough eggs in this country, wouldn't it be cheaper to get eggs sourced locally, less transport costs, lower carbon foot print as they are not shipped and transported 300+ miles, fresher.
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Economies of scale. One truck bringing thousands of eggs may also be less polluting than many smaller vehicles bringing eggs to market from smaller farms. ( I don't know if that is so , but moving greater numbers reduces the number of journeys ).
 
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scubasteve

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martcov said:
Economies of scale. One truck bringing thousands of eggs may also be less polluting than many smaller vehicles bringing eggs to market from smaller farms. ( I don't know if that is so , but moving greater numbers reduces the number of journeys ).
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Surely the UK have farms producing just as many eggs as a farms in Holland, it just doesn't make sense to me. I understand if its something we cant produce say Spanish oranges, but eggs... there must me hundreds if not thousands of farms all over the UK producing eggs why import them?
Though I think I did read a while back and could be wrong that the EU has quotas on what farms can produce and cant produce anymore, this is to make it fair on farms around Europe. For example a farm in England can only produce say a maximum of 1000 eggs per day no more, so a farm in Holland has the chance to produce the same to sell, as if the farms in England could produce 2000 eggs a day the could under cut cost of farms in other countries. Though im not sure on this so don't take it as gospel and the example is just a rough made up numbers, we could be talking about meat, milk etc. and at completely different levels. Though if the UK is limited on what it is allowed to produce and demand outweighs supply in the UK, then the UK would have to import, but it just seems a waste if that's the case.
 
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martcov

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skybluetony176 said:
There's a saying that I just can't quite remember. Something about rats and a ship. If true of course.
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In one report it was claimed that he was making sure his children got dual citizenship. That way his family gets privileges most Brits won't get. Could help them a lot in the future.

He probably wouldn't get German citizenship if it requires 3 years residency for a marriage partner. Everyone is registered in Germany, so it would only take a mouseclick from the authorities to check out his story if he claimed to have had 3 years residency. They checked me out on the phone when I enquired. If he had lied, they would have said drop your application, you have no chance. If it goes further, you then have to show your tax returns, and if you have children, you have to prove - in the case when you live apart from your wife - that you are paying child maintenance. Which I am sure he could, but it takes time and I doubt whether he would get further than the residency question. His children would have it a lot easier and would no doubt get German citizenship.

All in all Farage is a very hypocritical person.
 
SIR ERNIE

SIR ERNIE

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The laughable irony about you Farage Haters calling him hypocritical is that you are the same people who want Comrades Corbyn, McDonnell & Abbott to run the country. The most duplicitous political hypocrites of modern times and far more dangerous to the UK than Nigel Farage could ever be.
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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SIR ERNIE said:
The laughable irony about you Farage Haters calling him hypocritical is that you are the same people who want Comrades Corbyn, McDonnell & Abbott to run the country. The most duplicitous political hypocrites of modern times and far more dangerous to the UK than Nigel Farage could ever be.
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Luckily you're very very much in a minority. :)
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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SIR ERNIE said:
The laughable irony about you Farage Haters calling him hypocritical is that you are the same people who want Comrades Corbyn, McDonnell & Abbott to run the country. The most duplicitous political hypocrites of modern times and far more dangerous to the UK than Nigel Farage could ever be.
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You may be right with your distraction. But if the story has any truth to it wether that be dual citizenship for himself and/or children or full citizenship for either than he's a hypocrite. In fact what's his wife's status? Surely if he had the courage of his conviction she'd be a fully paid up British citizen to save her from the clutches of the evil EU he's spent his entire political life fighting for the UK to leave before they completely take us down.
 
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martcov

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SIR ERNIE said:
The laughable irony about you Farage Haters calling him hypocritical is that you are the same people who want Comrades Corbyn, McDonnell & Abbott to run the country. The most duplicitous political hypocrites of modern times and far more dangerous to the UK than Nigel Farage could ever be.
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Well, I think that Charlotteville has shown what dangers arise from populist rhetoric blaming minorities for problems and creating hate against people who don't share racist and anti foreigner or anti minority views. Farage expresses surprise at what happened in Charlottevile whilst the supporters of Trump and his alt right friends celebrate on Breitbart. What a joke- Farage knows full well why Charlotteville happened. Colateral damage from Trump rhetoric. Rhetoric which Farage described as "Refreshing" when talking about "the Donald" ( as Farage calls him - slime slime ). The same sort of thing could well happen ( Pole already been killed ) in Britain because of Farage and his hate posters and rhetoric.

Just because I see Farage for what he is - a snake oil salesman - doesn't make me a Corbyn, McDonnell or Abott fan. Nice try at a deflection.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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I struggle with this 'hate the haters' approach. That just makes those that take that line set themselves up to be hated & vilified because they take on the same mob rules approach to try to achieve their own aim.

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martcov

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SkyblueBazza said:
I struggle with this 'hate the haters' approach. That just makes those that take that line set themselves up to be hated & vilified because they take on the same mob rules approach to try to achieve their own aim.

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Well I don't lie, bully, threaten or march around the streets wearing NSM ( National Socialist Movement ), NSDAP, or KKK badges and I will hate people who do wear these things and thus support and/ or promote an idealogy based on hating people who think differently, look different or enjoy different forms of sex. Me hating such people does not put me in their league. The default position at birth is not hating anyone. These people have been taught to hate and are passing their hate on to future generations. To hate them is a reaction to them.
 
skybluetony176

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Why is the pound so low against the euro? - BBC News

Read this with interest earlier. Seems that the pound is expected to reach polarity with the euro at some point in 2018. Seems largely to do with the much anticipated collapse of the eurozone and euro by the brexit camp being the opposite of what is actually predicted to happen.

Mind you. I'm still waiting to be still getting as many euros for my holiday as I did pre-brexit as promised by my many pro brexit friends. This was only a glitch apparently and would be corrected by this summer. Funnily enough those same friends are also moaning on facebook about how much more spending money they've got to take to Spain this year. Perhaps I should remind them it's a glitch ;)
 
jimmyhillsfanclub

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......and of course the pound was widely reported as significantly over-valued before the referendum......

...swings & roundabouts innit.....
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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skybluetony176 said:
Why is the pound so low against the euro? - BBC News

Read this with interest earlier. Seems that the pound is expected to reach polarity with the euro at some point in 2018. Seems largely to do with the much anticipated collapse of the eurozone and euro by the brexit camp being the opposite of what is actually predicted to happen.

Mind you. I'm still waiting to be still getting as many euros for my holiday as I did pre-brexit as promised by my many pro brexit friends. This was only a glitch apparently and would be corrected by this summer. Funnily enough those same friends are also moaning on facebook about how much more spending money they've got to take to Spain this year. Perhaps I should remind them it's a glitch ;)
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Without discrediting the story I find that reporting on exchange rates is something of a self fulfilling prophecy

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Grendel

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martcov said:
Hope so ;-). Then I can start praising Brexit...
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Me to as it will make companies like mine incredibly rich and I get an even bigger bonus.
 
fernandopartridge

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jimmyhillsfanclub said:
Err.....just pointing out that sterling was in a bubble......now its not...this might come as a shock to you...but bubbles do burst you know.

Keep up.
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It probably should be about par with the Euro considering how integrated the UK economy is with the Eurozone and has central bank interest rates which are similar.

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