Whoes the gay boy in the pink? (21 Viewers)

[clint van damme]

Wow. We could have a competition on here to see who is the most p.c.

I know, what's the world coming to when you can't throw casual racist, homophobic, sexist chants around, the worlds gone mad.

 

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[Malaka]

Some of the Gay people around that heard might have found it a big deal though

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I really didn't mind

 

[ccfctommy]

Wondered when the pee cee word would be banded about

 

[Otis]

Wow. We could have a competition on here to see who is the most p.c.

Surely it is a case of right and wrong isn't it rather than being PC.

Isn't homophobic chanting illegal?

 

[ajsccfc]

Until there's reference to a brigade and things going mad, my bingo card's still too empty.

 

[Otis]

Until there's reference to a brigade and things going mad, my bingo card's still too empty.

Yeah. Just awaiting my brigade badge in the post.

 

[fatso]

Surely it is a case of right and wrong isn't it rather than being PC.

Isn't homophobic chanting illegal?

What about fatist remarks !

 

[matesx]

What about fatist remarks !

Shut it fatty

 

[fatso]

Shut it fatty

If you said that to my face, my boyfriend would slap you and I'd give you a good fisting!

 

[fatso]

If you said that to my face, my boyfriend would slap you and I'd give you a good fisting!

No offence.

 

[Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue]

That song used to come out frequently at HR where the fans were a lot closer together. Time does move on though like.

On another note I also remember an old lady behind me who used to frequently shout c*on and w*g at Uriah Rennie whenever we had him refereeing our games. She then moved on to shout it at Stern John too and that used to make me cringe.

She got away with it for years till eventually someone complained and she got a written warning from the club, warning that someone had put in a formal complaint about her language (no reference to racism) and she should stop.

I think the punishment would be far greater now and I dare say in a few years time homophobia will be punished a lot more harshly like racism now is.

 

[Grendel]

I'd say derogatory homophobic chanting is a big deal. You'd have probably claimed that throwing bananas at black players was no big deal as well though.

Although it's all rather pathetic unless he is gay that doesn't really apply does it?

 

[Otis]

What about fatist remarks !

Don't use any derogatory remarks past 'you lemon' and 'you Muppet.'

Don't think I ever have called anyone fatty. Mind, I only hang around with thin people.

 

[Sick Boy]

Although it's all rather pathetic unless he is gay that doesn't really apply does it?

Perhaps you should have represented the Leicester fan who got done for shouting 'queers' at Brighton fans?

 

[letsallsingtogether]

personally i would prefer Tim Fisher is a wanker and SISU out

Not allowed to sing that ether it upsets quite a few on here.

 

[matesx]

If you said that to my face, my boyfriend would slap you and I'd give you a good fisting!

Take your watch off first

 

[SkyblueBazza]

Well it's hardly the wit of genius to be fair but the keeper wasnt gay I assume? The gay men I know wouldn't cry themselves to sleep about it but if it offends do something about it, demand a lifetime ban or whatever.

Fat c**t? Any better, bullying people because they are fat? If we are going to have outrage let's be consistent

Couldn't agree more. Either everyone is fair game to poke fun at - or nobody is

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[Cavan O'Doherty]

Like many have said on here it is childish, but if you don't like hearing these kinds of chants football is not the sport for you. Unfortunately it will always be a part of the game.

 

[fatso]

Couldn't agree more. Either everyone is fair game to poke fun at - or nobody is

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I agree, I'm really not too sure what I should get offended at any more, or to what level of offence I should get to, I find it all quite confusing.

 

[oucho]

Like many have said on here it is childish, but if you don't like hearing these kinds of chants football is not the sport for you. Unfortunately it will always be a part of the game.

That attide is part of the problem. We shouldn't accept that sort of behavior, we should challenge it. 40 years ago it was ok to throw bananas at John Barnes, Cyrile Regis and Viv Anderson, that only changed because some people challenged it. Your response reminds me of every time i complain of swearing at football and am told i should accept it as it is 'part of the game'. No, i shouldn't have to and it says so in the FA/FL/ground rules which we agree to observe as conditions on entering any league ground.

That song used to come out frequently at HR where the fans were a lot closer together. Time does move on though like.

On another note I also remember an old lady behind me who used to frequently shout c*on and w*g at Uriah Rennie whenever we had him refereeing our games. She then moved on to shout it at Stern John too and that used to make me cringe.

She got away with it for years till eventually someone complained and she got a written warning from the club, warning that someone had put in a formal complaint about her language (no reference to racism) and she should stop.

I think the punishment would be far greater now and I dare say in a few years time homophobia will be punished a lot more harshly like racism now is.

Why didn't you challenge her yourself and/or report her?

 

[Cavan O'Doherty]

That attide is part of the problem. We shouldn't accept that sort of behavior, we should challenge it. 40 years ago it was ok to throw bananas at John Barnes, Cyrile Regis and Viv Anderson, that only changed because some people challenged it. Your response reminds me of every time i complain of swearing at football and am told i should accept it as it is 'part of the game'. No, i shouldn't have to and it says so in the FA/FL/ground rules which we agree to observe as conditions on entering any league ground.



Why didn't you challenge her yourself and/or report her?

It shouldn't be in the game but it is, and nobody can really do anything to stop it. Us fans can't anyway.

 

[Sick Boy]

It shouldn't be in the game but it is, and nobody can really do anything to stop it. Us fans can't anyway.

So if a minority of fans started racist chanting, the fans couldn't really do anything?

 

[Cavan O'Doherty]

So if a minority of fans started racist chanting, the fans couldn't really do anything?

It's so engrained in the game what can we really do? If we challenge them what's that really going to do except from start a fight. You have to bear in mind what kind of people you are dealing with here(slightly backwards).

 

[fatso]

I'm going to stop singing and chanting from now on,just in case I offend anyone....... in fact I may just stop going all together, like most of the other people in Coventry.

 

[Houchens Head]

I remember singing when the ref gave a really bad decision against us many, many years ago.
(To the tune of My Darling Clementine)
"Who's your father, who's your father, who's your father referee?
You ain't got one, you're a bastard, you're a bastard referee!"
They never took any notice coz they knew it was banter, but these days, you'd probably be kicked out of the ground for referring to the parentage of the officials! :emoji_stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

 

[SkyblueBazza]

I agree, I'm really not too sure what I should get offended at any more, or to what level of offence I should get to, I find it all quite confusing.

Confusing?

I reckon that the powers that be have tied themselves up in knots. Especially when the 'establishment' has deliberated & decreed that calling someone a 'Jock' or 'Nazi' nor even 'Ginge' is not offensive, but things like 'Taffy', 'fatty' or 'homo' is. How the fck are we the Joe Public supposed to decide on the spur of the moment???

Just perhaps another example of how far removed from the real world "they" have become?!

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[SkyblueBazza]

I remember singing when the ref gave a really bad decision against us many, many years ago.
(To the tune of My Darling Clementine)
"Who's your father, who's your father, who's your father referee?
You ain't got one, you're a bastard, you're a bastard referee!"
They never took any notice coz they knew it was banter, but these days, you'd probably be kicked out of the ground for referring to the parentage of the officials! :emoji_stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

What would you have expected them to actually do???

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[Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue]

That attide is part of the problem. We shouldn't accept that sort of behavior, we should challenge it. 40 years ago it was ok to throw bananas at John Barnes, Cyrile Regis and Viv Anderson, that only changed because some people challenged it. Your response reminds me of every time i complain of swearing at football and am told i should accept it as it is 'part of the game'. No, i shouldn't have to and it says so in the FA/FL/ground rules which we agree to observe as conditions on entering any league ground.



Why didn't you challenge her yourself and/or report her?

Because I was only 7 years old? I didn't even understand what most of those words meant at that age. I just got told by my Grandad not to use them.

 

[letsallsingtogether]

So if a minority of fans started racist chanting, the fans couldn't really do anything?

We could just pile into them and teach the heterosexual racist bastards a lesson.

 

[chiefdave]

if you don't like hearing these kinds of chants football is not the sport for you. Unfortunately it will always be a part of the game.

Why will it always be part of the game. It was once part of the game to chuck bananas at black players should the same attitude have been taken to that?

Should we just accept as 'banter' the abuse some fans get? Homophobia in football: How LGBT fans' groups are changing opinions on terraces

 

[PorkyCovvy]

To be fair it was only a tiny minority singing it and was over pretty quickly.

How is that being fair? You're marginalising the situation.

 

[PorkyCovvy]

I go to watch football because i enjoy the sport. That chant is not part of the sport and as a proud homosexual gentleman I'd like to see those guilty of joining in chastised by the more reasonable members of society around them.

 

[Sick Boy]

How is that being fair? You're marginalising the situation.

I'm not at all! 15 years ago it would have been sung more by more supporters and at various points throughout the game. I was pointing out that it was a small minority and it was over pretty quickly followed by an awkward silence.

 

[RB1992]

Remember being at Preston maybe 7/8 years ago and a couple of builders were sat in their half built stand to the left - they got "gayboy" abuse all game and no-one batted an eyelid. Not saying it's right, but just shows how much the game has moved on when a 15-second chant from a minority is now topic for debate.

Personally, I think we're entering dangerous territory if everyone starts throwing a wobbly and taking offence about chants such as this - does this mean we cannot now mock stereotypes for any players/supporters? No more "fat bastard" chants? Cannot call the Welsh "sheep shaggers"? Leicester fans "inbreds"? I could go on. People need to lighten up.

 

[Liquid Gold]

In a better world we'd be abusing other fans as being homophobes rather than brushing off homophobia in our own fan base. Professional footballs are having to hide their true identity because of the fear of abuse and this sort of thing is the reason why. It's a dark age mindset.