You are appalled that we think that that bad relationships may have an influence on decisions or that money may also have played a role in decision making?
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You are appalled that we think that that bad relationships may have an influence on decisions or that money may also have played a role in decision making?
Nick
Administrator
Again, this isn't the council running it. You are hinting at the council getting other independent charities to do things based on their bad relationships.
Liquid Gold
Well-Known Member
The council are more against the current owners not the club but I don't think they've ever taken a pro CCFC stance. Lets not forget that one of the reasons we were in such a poor financial situation allowing sisu to take control was because of the restrictive rent arrangements enforced on the club by the council.
Otis
Well-Known Member
True, but I don't believe they are anti Coventry City. You have to remember that many councillors are indeed City supporters.
Liquid Gold
Well-Known Member
I agree with you but if you compare our council with those of Doncaster and Swansea for example and what they've done for their respective clubs then it doesn't make them look the friendliest. A premiership football team is worth millions to the local economy every year and, in my opinion, our council has seen the football club as a direct source of income rather than something that can generate wider revenues for the community.
SkyBlueZack
Well-Known Member
Appalled that people think because SISU and the council don't like each other, it's ok to erase CCFC from the cultural side of the City. Not sure what is hard to understand.
SkyBlueZack
Well-Known Member
I give up. We're now on to the councillors are CCFC fans. The same councillors who voted to sell the stadium built for us to a London rugby team. They can do no wrong in some peoples eyes and are excused on everything they do. They don't like the club, have little affinity to it (just like big bad SISU), have only ever seen the club as what they can get out of it. There is examples given by liquid gold but they'll be downplayed by people as SISU caused it, CCFC are responsible for themselves etc. It's tiresome. SISU are shit football club owners without doubt. The council are shit at running a city, including the way they treat both the football club and rugby club. There is nothing good about either organisation. Some won't have it though, too busy on a moral crusade against a Cayman Island hedge fund whilst applauding a Maltese hedge fund for taking the opportunity created by the Cayman Island hedge fund. It's farcical.
The council say the relationship is broken. There is no trust between the parties. The parties being CCC and SISU. Nothing to do with them trying to marginalise CCFC. They are not talking to each other. Until this JR is dead and buried it will remain that way. After that is the time to start repairing things if that is even possible.
No one says it is ok. It is reality, but not Ok. The situation is not hard to understand.
SkyBlueZack
Well-Known Member
Fuck sake. The relationship between the council and the club should have no bearing on whether the club is part of the cities culture. You are saying it's ok for CCFC not to be part of the bid as the relationship is broken.
Nick
Administrator
THE CITY OF CULTURE BID IS NOT BEING RUN BY THE COUNCIL, It's an independent charity.
You keep inferring the council are using their influence to go against CCFC with a third party.
covcity4life
Well-Known Member
lol councillers are ccfc fans
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Facts are not always nice.
I am hinting that Wasps got in early, paid into the kitty and presented themselves in a good light. We didn't.
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Being a sponsor helps getting you into the picture, which is obviously why they paid good money to get in. The council are around somewhere in this bid. I doubt very much if they have no influence on how their city is represented.
Nick
Administrator
Yes, but if I sponsored the Mr Universe competition it doesn't suddenly make me massive does it?
Obviously they do have an influence, you have blamed the relationship with the council again.
Otis
Well-Known Member
Some councillors ARE CCFC fans. I can see absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's a fact.
Otis
Well-Known Member
torchomatic
Well-Known Member
Nah, don't agree with that. If so, they would have helped the club in some way, not shafted it just to spite the owners.
Liquid Gold
Well-Known Member
You forget that is what a load of our supposed fans are doing anyway
Otis
Well-Known Member
Exactly. People are just saying how it is, not that they accept it or agree with it.
Otis
Well-Known Member
Very valid point. Lots of fans shafting the club, rightly or wrongly with the NOPM stance.
SkyBlueZack
Well-Known Member
dongonzalos
Well-Known Member
More importantly the people of Coventry deserve it.
SkyBlueZack
Well-Known Member
There excusing it. It's simple, do you think both CCFC and CRFC are part of the cities culture? If yes, all the other stuff is irrelevant to the topic, which is a culture bid.
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
they were at the civic reception in 87 mate, they must be.
SkyBlueZack
Well-Known Member
For welcoming an out of town rugby club despite being up in arms about their football club? If there was an award for hypocrisy and double standards we'd win it at a canter.
dongonzalos
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dongonzalos
Well-Known Member
350,000 people welcomed an out of town rugby club and so don’t deserve to have their city as the city of culture?
Nick
Administrator
dongonzalos
Well-Known Member
And your answer?
Nick
Administrator
Read the thread rather than again just proving you haven't got a clue.
dongonzalos
Well-Known Member
Didn’t have time so asked a quick question.
Maybe someone less child like will answer when they have chance.
If it is just Wasps and Ricoh who have put money into it. They maybe why they got a mention. Once someone invests a bit of cash they will expect to be talked about at every opportunity.