The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (321 Viewers)

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%

  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%

  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .
Astute

Astute

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Sick Boy said:
Didn't Tony vote Labour at the last election after reading the manifestos? I'm sure you were recently complaining about people attacking each other as well, yet are now attempting to insult someone with the lowest insult of them all.
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What insult is that? Countless.times he accused me of being a Tory and making out that Tories are this and Tories are that. Then he announces that he is a Tory.

As I said most are happy that middle ground is being found. Then look at the moaning from him. Nothing will be good enough.
 
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Kingokings204

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Duo have done the right thing imo. They need to have the same deal as Britain. Fair play for sticking to their principals.

Bigger question is surely TM knew they would reject it. They said they would. What the heck?
 
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martcov

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Ashdown said:
Oh dear Mart, where have you been for the last 70 years ?! Our influence on the world has been diminishing ever since WW2...........What was worrying more of us was the worlds influence on us now !!
The European Defence force..............don't make me laugh, have you seen the relative strength of the Russian military against the Europeans, if Putin fancied having a dance in Paris anytime soon in terms of conventional forces he could probably be in by New Year to see the fireworks !
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Do you think that the Europeans will let Putin through? Without the USA and Britain, Europe is no threat to Russia. They are unlikely to have their own missiles pointing at Moscow. I don’t know what Putin would do if the threats were removed. Pure speculation if you think that he wants to go to Paris.

Our influence was still there a year ago, albeit reduced. We were part of a powerful trading bloc and the Scottish referendum and GFA had put off any break up of the UK.

Now we are almost out of our trading block and the Irish question is back on the table. The once mighty UK is at the mercy of a backward religious dominated provincial party.

I predicted this on the day after Brexit Day.

It was so bloody obvious. We have driven into a cul de sac full of people who are against us.

The one who has been claiming the glory after pissing off the EU for years has now said that he is a family man and will take his non earned 72000,00 GBP pension when it is due, because it would be unfair on his family if he didn’t... So many of the „forgotten people“ fell for the lies of this rat catcher.

It is a sad situation for our country to be in. I am raging.

Luckily I am finally doing my German exams for German citizenship at the weekend. I feel sorry for the young intelligent people of our country who are having their chances reduced by Brexit,
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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Astute said:
What insult is that? Countless.times he accused me of being a Tory and making out that Tories are this and Tories are that. Then he announces that he is a Tory.

As I said most are happy that middle ground is being found. Then look at the moaning from him. Nothing will be good enough.
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The tories at the moment are a fucking shambles and a shadow of any party they’ve been at any time in their history.

Can’t ever remember calling you a Tory so don’t know where you get that from. I’ve referred to voting Tory as my default position, I’ll still vote Tory in the council elections but this Tory government aren’t fit to run the country, it’s as simple as that.
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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Kingokings204 said:
Duo have done the right thing imo. They need to have the same deal as Britain. Fair play for sticking to their principals.

Bigger question is surely TM knew they would reject it. They said they would. What the heck?
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It's highly unlikely that NI is going to end up with the same deal.
 
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martcov

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Kingokings204 said:
Duo have done the right thing imo. They need to have the same deal as Britain. Fair play for sticking to their principals.

Bigger question is surely TM knew they would reject it. They said they would. What the heck?
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No they don’t need the same as Brexit Britain. They didn’t vote for this crap and they don’t want a fxxking border through their island. People like you did, but you don’t live there and won’t be affected either way.

You have even less to say on the future of the island of Ireland than this proxy unionist party.
 
Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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martcov said:
Juncker? Tusk?

Having had wankers like Farage insulting them for years, I think they will not be working to help us.

We have the equivalent of a SISU relationship with them now.
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I think that sums it up nicely. The EU are SISU. You are a Coventry fan.

Definition: Mart Cov is a SISU lover!
 
SIR ERNIE

SIR ERNIE

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martcov said:
No they don’t need the same as Brexit Britain. They didn’t vote for this crap and they don’t want a fxxking border through their island. People like you did, but you don’t live there and won’t be affected either way.

You have even less to say on the future of the island of Ireland than this proxy unionist party.
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Oh the irony, martKiel.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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martcov said:
You don’t even live in Ireland. That’s the whole point of the Irish revolts against British rule. The Brits don’t care about what happens in Ireland as a result of their policies. People like you are the cause of the troubles, not the solution.
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Hard border could quite easily see a return to the troubles or the break up of the U.K. A border on the Irish Channel could quite easily see a return to the troubles and the break up of the U.K.

Can’t see a scenario here where Northern Ireland wins.

Still I’m sure it was just a scaremongering lie from the remain camp.
 
Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Gigantisk databas över invandrares brott – sajten polisanmäls

There's been a leak in Sweden over crime figures that have been kept from the public, now being released.

The mainstream media and government over there are freaking out. Why? Surely there isn't a problem is there?

82% of those scentenced to prison for gang rape in Sweden in the last 10 years were migrants.

Let me guess:

1) Gang rape isn't real
2) The definition of rape has changed
3) This is just another right wing conspiracy theory
4) Earlsdon_Skyblue1 is literally hitler
 
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Kingokings204

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martcov said:
No they don’t need the same as Brexit Britain. They didn’t vote for this crap and they don’t want a fxxking border through their island. People like you did, but you don’t live there and won’t be affected either way.

You have even less to say on the future of the island of Ireland than this proxy unionist party.
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The irony isn’t lost on you I hope.

I don’t want a hard border. Only said that 50 times. Do you understand yet?
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Gigantisk databas över invandrares brott – sajten polisanmäls

There's been a leak in Sweden over crime figures that have been kept from the public, now being released.

The mainstream media and government over there are freaking out. Why? Surely there isn't a problem is there?

82% of those scentenced to prison for gang rape in Sweden in the last 10 years were migrants.

Let me guess:

1) Gang rape isn't real
2) The definition of rape has changed
3) This is just another right wing conspiracy theory
4) Earlsdon_Skyblue1 is literally hitler
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Not sure what this has to do with Brexit?
 
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martcov

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Gigantisk databas över invandrares brott – sajten polisanmäls

There's been a leak in Sweden over crime figures that have been kept from the public, now being released.

The mainstream media and government over there are freaking out. Why? Surely there isn't a problem is there?

82% of those scentenced to prison for gang rape in Sweden in the last 10 years were migrants.

Let me guess:

1) Gang rape isn't real
2) The definition of rape has changed
3) This is just another right wing conspiracy theory
4) Earlsdon_Skyblue1 is literally hitler
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Ok. 432 attacks on refugees outside of their accommodation in the third quarter in Germany as opposed to 340? odd in the second quarter.

Breitbart missed that.
 
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martcov

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Kingokings204 said:
The irony isn’t lost on you I hope.

I don’t want a hard border. Only said that 50 times. Do you understand yet?
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You told us 100 times that you knew why you voted leave. One reason was hard borders to stop terrorists and EU migrants after Brexit. Do you really understand what Brexit is? Do you even understand what you keep saying?
 
Captain Dart

Captain Dart

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Gigantisk databas över invandrares brott – sajten polisanmäls

There's been a leak in Sweden over crime figures that have been kept from the public, now being released.

The mainstream media and government over there are freaking out. Why? Surely there isn't a problem is there?

82% of those scentenced to prison for gang rape in Sweden in the last 10 years were migrants.

Let me guess:

1) Gang rape isn't real
2) The definition of rape has changed
3) This is just another right wing conspiracy theory
4) Earlsdon_Skyblue1 is literally hitler
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Sweden 2004 - 2014:
16% of people in Sweden are born in a foreign country.
45% of people sent to prison for crime were foreign born.
82% of people sent to prison for gangrape were foreign born.
70% of those sentenced to a 9 year prison sentence were foreign born.
 
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martcov

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SIR ERNIE said:
Oh the irony, martKiel.
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There is no irony, at least from my point of view. I said Brexit was stupid and would lead to problems with the UK. I predict a break up within a short time.

The irony is with the leave side who don’t want the customs union, but at the same time think that we don’t need a customs border to the EU.

They, at the same time, want to stop illegal immigration without a hard border.

Full of contradictions and nonsense.

The people who voted Brexit caused this mess.
 
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martcov

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SIR ERNIE said:
Meanwhile back in Germany, more than 2 months since the German election and old Merkel’s still not found a way to form a government and it looks as though the increasing influence of the right continues.

Blow for Merkel in coalition talks as ally makes way for right-wing rival
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Well actually no. Söder is a twat, but if the CSU want to join a coalition which includes SPD, they will have to share an EU reform policy. The main reforms being demanded by the SPD include an EU Finance Minister, coordinated taxes, coordinated social policies and others suggested by Macron.

Just for people like yourself.
 
Astute

Astute

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skybluetony176 said:
The tories at the moment are a fucking shambles and a shadow of any party they’ve been at any time in their history.

Can’t ever remember calling you a Tory so don’t know where you get that from. I’ve referred to voting Tory as my default position, I’ll still vote Tory in the council elections but this Tory government aren’t fit to run the country, it’s as simple as that.
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Do you want to show where I have praised them? There was a few of you making comments on the matter because I made comments against Corbyn and Labour. But they are not fit to govern either.

It still looks like we are leaving the EU. So which way of leaving would you not moan about?
 
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martcov

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
You're pair of fucking disgraceful rapist apologists.
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You are now off the scale. You keep throwing Breitbart „facts“ into the discussion. I just pointed out what Breitbart misses. Right wing violence is a real problem and increasing. It has to be tackled just as much as other crimes. I have never said that rape should be allowed or wasn’t as important, if not more important, than right wing violence. Pointless tackling only one part of a bigger problem.

Are you then a fascist apologist for only pointing out crimes commited by migrants?
 
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Kingokings204

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martcov said:
You told us 100 times that you knew why you voted leave. One reason was hard borders to stop terrorists and EU migrants after Brexit. Do you really understand what Brexit is? Do you even understand what you keep saying?
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Yes again 50 times I’ve not met one leaver who wants a hard border in Ireland. It doesn’t have to happen.

Northern Ireland hasn’t been massively affected by EU rules just like Scotland. That’s why they voted to remain. It wasn’t a big remain as some would like to make out though.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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Astute said:
Do you want to show where I have praised them? There was a few of you making comments on the matter because I made comments against Corbyn and Labour. But they are not fit to govern either.

It still looks like we are leaving the EU. So which way of leaving would you not moan about?
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Why have I suddenly lost the right to point out the pitfalls of Brexit? Is freedom of speech one of the things we’re relinquishing with our EU passports.
 
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westcountry_skyblue

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martcov said:
You don’t even live in Ireland. That’s the whole point of the Irish revolts against British rule. The Brits don’t care about what happens in Ireland as a result of their policies. People like you are the cause of the troubles, not the solution.
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Northern Ireland is and always will be Britsh end of deal with it,No Surrender!!
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
Astute said:
Do you want to show where I have praised them? There was a few of you making comments on the matter because I made comments against Corbyn and Labour. But they are not fit to govern either.

It still looks like we are leaving the EU. So which way of leaving would you not moan about?
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Hard to say. So many things are going wrong. A Norway situation would probably cause the least damage. But the leavers would be moaning so much, you wouldn’t hear me.
 
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