Poll: How long will Trump be President? (15 Viewers)

[chiefdave]

An article full of hot air. Try better next time.

"So, are the policies similar as Trump claimed? In the most superficial of ways, yes."

And that's enough for you? Compare the two.

In 2011, under Obama's term, the state department responded to a clear and specific threat by implementing a temporary, 6 month, threat. A similar thing happened after 9/11.
Trumps ban is not to stop any specific threat. In fact no refugee or immigrant from the countries on Trumps list have ever been involved in a fatal terrorist attack in the US.

Obama paused refugee processing.
Trump is stopping entry for all non US citizens from the countries on his list.

Its not even remotely close to being the same thing, as the piece states the only similarity is in the most superficial of ways.

 

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[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

And that's enough for you? Compare the two.

In 2011, under Obama's term, the state department responded to a clear and specific threat by implementing a temporary, 6 month, threat. A similar thing happened after 9/11.
Trumps ban is not to stop any specific threat. In fact no refugee or immigrant from the countries on Trumps list have ever been involved in a fatal terrorist attack in the US.

Obama paused refugee processing.
Trump is stopping entry for all non US citizens from the countries on his list.

Its not even remotely close to being the same thing, as the piece states the only similarity is in the most superficial of ways.

It's semantics and you know it is.

You're just so warped by Trump that you cannot handle anything that comes out from him. Multiple threads not even related to politics have had you popping up making swipes about him.

God forbid if anyone like that got elected in this country. You'd have an actual meltdown.

 

[chiefdave]

It's semantics and you know it is.

No it isn't. One was a temporary halt to processing refugees due to a specific credible threat. It didn't even stop entry, refugees were still admitted during that time.

Trump's is a ban on all people travelling from Chad, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria, North Korea, Venezuela and Yemen. Why are Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt not on the list given its people from those country who have undertaken terrorist acts against the US recently? Nothing to do with those being countries Trump has business interests in I'm sure.

If you genuinely can't see the huge difference between the two situations I'm speechless.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

No it isn't. One was a temporary halt to processing refugees due to a specific credible threat. It didn't even stop entry, refugees were still admitted during that time.

Trump's is a ban on all people travelling from Chad, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria, North Korea, Venezuela and Yemen. Why are Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt not on the list given its people from those country who have undertaken terrorist acts against the US recently? Nothing to do with those being countries Trump has business interests in I'm sure.

If you genuinely can't see the huge difference between the two situations I'm speechless.

I can see that there is a difference, but not enough of one for people to completely ignore one, and then be completely outraged at the other.

For the record, I think that Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt should be on the list if the others are. It seems pretty ridiculous otherwise.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Jerusalem is Israel's capital, Trump to say

FFS.......I wish Trump was much more like JFK or Abraham Lincoln..........

Ok.....I'll settle for garfield or mckinley.......

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Trump's Jerusalem move sparks clashes

Thanks for that Donald.........what a grade a c**t of a president.....

 

[Otis]

Trump's Jerusalem move sparks clashes

Thanks for that Donald.........what a grade a c**t of a president.....

You light the blue touchpaper and that's what happens.

The guy is a complete clown.

 

[wingy]

And a Merry Christmas to all.
Classic Disrupter /Creat chaos and exploit the space.
Let alone 'Look over ther',distraction,not for the first time in his term.
What an unpleaaant being he is.

 

[martcov]

And a Merry Christmas to all.
Classic Disrupter /Creat chaos and exploit the space.
Let alone 'Look over ther',distraction,not for the first time in his term.
What an unpleaaant being he is.

Yes, especially as it’s coming out about Flynn‘s plans of a joint Russia/ USA project to provide atomic power stations in the Middle East. How much more would Flynn get if that came off.... in addition to 15m US for Kidnapping Gülen and some more for tearing up the sanctions? Not to mention where does the Trump Corporation or subsidiaries come into this? Pure Putinist-like cleptomania. No wonder Flynn and Trump are so popular with Russia. And a tax bill which favours the Trump family and most of his cabinet. The people who voted for Trump wanted to drain the swamp not restock it.

 

[clint van damme]

You light the blue touchpaper and that's what happens.

The guy is a complete clown.

Tin foil hat time but is it a coincident that he made this comment within hours of Mueller subpoenaing his Deutche bank records? This seems to have taken the spotlight away.

 

[Otis]

So reassuring that Trump has backed this guy, Ray Moore, embroiled in a child sex abuse scandal.

Alabama votes in high-stakes election

And this is what this Ray Moore believes.

Things Republican Roy Moore believes

I would definitely see that as extremist.

 

[martcov]

So reassuring that Trump has backed this guy, Ray Moore, embroiled in a child sex abuse scandal.

Alabama votes in high-stakes election

And this is what this Ray Moore believes.

Things Republican Roy Moore believes

I would definitely see that as extremist.

Yes, backed by Steve Bannon of Breitbart fame. Editor in Chief and now back with them fighting for...... NS, racists, bigots, religious nuts ....

 

[wingy]

So they're going back to the moon and eventually on to Mars.

 

[Liquid Gold]

So reassuring that Trump has backed this guy, Ray Moore, embroiled in a child sex abuse scandal.

Alabama votes in high-stakes election

And this is what this Ray Moore believes.

Things Republican Roy Moore believes

I would definitely see that as extremist.

Fantastic news that he seems to have lost the race.

 

[martcov]

Fantastic news that he seems to have lost the race.

Yes. Farage and Bannon backed him. Good to see the scum that represent the silent majority ( according to them ) getting shown up for what they are. Populist opportunists.

 

[martcov]

Fantastic news that he seems to have lost the race.

And his campaign says they are not accepting it because 51:49 is too small a majority. They want to contest it. So much for right wing democracy. Reminds me of „you lost, get over it“....

 

[Grendel]

He is a con man. Believe me... as he says. He is running a family business along white, nationalistic, heterosexual, christian lines.

The USA is bigger and better than that.

His base is around 30%, but he is president for 100% of Americans.

His approval ratings are the worst ever.

I hope he, and his cronies, get led out of office in handcuffs.

What’s merkels base to be chancellor of 100% of Germans?

 

[Grendel]

Yeah, can someone please point me in the direction of those who said Clinton was an angel.

Trump is a very, very dangerous man and a hotheaded one at that.

Trumps not dangerous. He’s just a cartoon character who makes outrageous statements for maximum effect and to detract from the fact that he is doing very little in terms of legislation

Clinton would have been far far more dangerous.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

And his campaign says they are not accepting it because 51:49 is too small a majority. They want to contest it. So much for right wing democracy. Reminds me of „you lost, get over it“....

You lost.

Get over it.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Trumps not dangerous. He’s just a cartoon character who makes outrageous statements for maximum effect and to detract from the fact that he is doing very little in terms of legislation

Clinton would have been far far more dangerous.

Sorry Grendel but Trump is clearly dangerous to both the global environment & world peace...... his statements are more often than not designed to inflame situations as a distraction technique......its a super-condensed version of the "Shock Doctrine"......

His "approach" has escalated tensions considerably in the Middle-East & Korea......

Not only that......his constant twittering has potential to cause panic & uncertainty across the globe......

The bloke is a fucking global liability & the sooner he is impeached (or charged with sexual assault etc.) the safer the world will be.

 

[skybluetony176]

Trumps not dangerous. He’s just a cartoon character who makes outrageous statements for maximum effect and to detract from the fact that he is doing very little in terms of legislation

Clinton would have been far far more dangerous.

Have you seen the rise in right wing terror attacks since he’s been president? A group he seems to take privilege in empowering. Have you seen the troubles he’s reignited in Palestine and Israel? Do you think this will motivate home grown Islamic terrorist in the USA?

Everything the man says and does either antagonises or exacerbates tensions both in the US and wider world. Something Bill Clinton seemed to be able to avoid for the most part and I dare say Hillary would have been similar although in very different times.

Not sure what you’re basing your opinion that Hillary would have been far far more dangerous on. Seems a flippant comment at best.

 

[Otis]

Sorry Grendel but Trump is clearly dangerous to both the global environment & world peace...... his statements are more often than not designed to inflame situations as a distraction technique......its a super-condensed version of the "Shock Doctrine"......

His "approach" has escalated tensions considerably in the Middle-East & Korea......

Not only that......his constant twittering has potential to cause panic & uncertainty across the globe......

The bloke is a fucking global liability & the sooner he is impeached (or charged with sexual assault etc.) the safer the world will be.

Of course he is dangerous. Clear as day.

 

[Grendel]

Sorry Grendel but Trump is clearly dangerous to both the global environment & world peace...... his statements are more often than not designed to inflame situations as a distraction technique......its a super-condensed version of the "Shock Doctrine"......

His "approach" has escalated tensions considerably in the Middle-East & Korea......

Not only that......his constant twittering has potential to cause panic & uncertainty across the globe......

The bloke is a fucking global liability & the sooner he is impeached (or charged with sexual assault etc.) the safer the world will be.

Clinton openly prior to the election campaign indicated she would demand a no fly zone with Syria an action she openly acknowledged could result in conflict against Russia.

Trumps talk and bluster will long be forgotten when he has departed. Clinton shared him on the ego maniac stage but would have persued her anti Russia agenda with far more purpose. The consequence would have been potentially calamitous.

 

[martcov]

You lost.

Get over it.

That’s it. That was what I was looking for... anyway it’s nice seeing these people being defeated especially in a red state and with Trump, Bannon, Farage etc having spoken out for Moore.

 

[martcov]

Clinton openly prior to the election campaign indicated she would demand a no fly zone with Syria an action she openly acknowledged could result in conflict against Russia.

Trumps talk and bluster will long be forgotten when he has departed. Clinton shared him on the ego maniac stage but would have persued her anti Russia agenda with far more purpose. The consequence would have been potentially calamitous.

Maybe. Maybe not. But, we only have to turn on the TV to see how Trump is dividing to rule.

 

[martcov]

What’s merkels base to be chancellor of 100% of Germans?

I’ll tell you when she is re-elected.

 

[martcov]

You lost.

Get over it.

What’s FriaTaden’s and Breitbart’s take on this?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

That’s it. That was what I was looking for... anyway it’s nice seeing these people being defeated especially in a red state and with Trump, Bannon, Farage etc having spoken out for Moore.

What’s FriaTaden’s and Breitbart’s take on this?

You're obsessed with Breitbart.

For the record, I asked them. They also said 'you lose'.

 

[martcov]

You're obsessed with Breitbart.

For the record, I asked them. They also said 'you lose'.

You do surprise me. Waiting for Captain Dart’s Link.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

You do surprise me. Waiting for Captain Dart’s Link.

Surprisingly, you don't surprise me.

The Hundred Years' war elapsed quicker than your ability to accept the result.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Can you two just have your own thread for bitching at one another.

 

[Otis]

Nick should have a sticky called 'Bitch Slap.'

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Can you two just have your own thread for bitching at one another.

I think Mart needs his own forum in general to be honest.

 

[martcov]

I think Mart needs his own forum in general to be honest.

Why? Because I question your posts?

 

[Otis]

Trump actually backed Luther Strange who lost the primary to Roy (not Ray) Moore. He only favoured Moore over Jones to keep the Republican majority at 52.48, and actually rejected Moore before the allegations-meaning just on the grounds of his views, so I would not call that extremist.

I am talking about Moore being extremist.