Mark Robins Plea (12 Viewers)

[RoboCCFC90]

“There are two sides to every argument.

“We’re asking people to look past that and see past that, and come and support the team and what we do, because those things are separate. We’ve separated those things.

“Any extra revenue that we get will come into running the football club and making sure we’re as strong as we possibly can be on the pitch.

“We can’t do it without them. Simple. We’ve had to sell players to make sure we’ve got a budget this year.

“We’ve got to make sure we’ve got all our ducks in a row. We’ve got to make sure everybody is working flat out and giving everything they possibly can, on a skeleton staff.

“There’s teams in this division that are spending far more than we have done on salaries and other things, on running the club in general.

“This is a really big club and we desperately want it to get back to where it needs to be.

“And for that we need everybody to stick together and need everybody to support our efforts.

“That’s by no means taking anything for granted. Every supporter that comes through the turnstile to watch us is valued, without a shadow of doubt.

“I think the atmosphere generated during the cup game.. you can’t buy that. You look back to the Checkatrade final and the amount of people we took (43,000).

“If we’re going to build a successful Coventry City, we need as many of those stay-away people, alongside those people who watch us every week, as we possibly can. Then we can take it forward quicker.

“We need to galvanise everybody and try and let bygones be bygones.

“It’s very, very difficult, and it’s easy for me to say. It’s very difficult for people to look past that.

“There will be difficulties. There are difficulties at every football club.

“You look at Brighton, for years when there were a lot of problems, with the move to the Withdean. It took 10 years to get the planning permission through and make sure there was a stadium built. Look at them now and the way they built that football club.

“We have to use those experiences of other football teams to build a successful and sustainable future for Coventry City.”

‘Let bygones be bygones, there’s two sides to every argument,’ says boss Mark Robins to stay-away Coventry City fans

 

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[Nick]

Where's that said?

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Where's that said?

Coventry Observer..

I agree with every word to be honest.

 

[ajsccfc]

He was saying it in slightly briefer terms on the BBC draw programme the other day too. He's right, but I can't see people believing him about where the revenue will go or calling him a SISU mouthpiece or so on.

 

[ccfcway]

“You look at Brighton, for years when there were a lot of problems, with the move to the Withdean. It took 10 years to get the planning permission through and make sure there was a stadium built. Look at them now and the way they built that football club."

That's good news then, as its taken SISU 10 years to take us from Championship to League Two, with no sign whatsoever of a stadium or planning permission, whilst still in court with the council who decide on planning permission and our landlords who rent their ground to us...

 

[pastythegreat]

But, But, But, But........... What about NOPM???

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[italiahorse]

Did he really say there are 2 sides to every argument? I thought he was just asking fans to support the football.
If he did he is inferring Sisu may be right and I'm not happy with that.
He should keep the football and politics separate.
I'm sure this can't be right and its the papers introducing the politics.

 

[shmmeee]

Better to keep his head down and focus on the football rather than wading into the politics TBH. No good can come of it. I generally agree with him and I’ve still read that and got pissed off.

 

[lifelongcityfan]

so what exactly is SISU's argument , goals and ambitions for the club.... i would love to know!!!

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Did he really say there are 2 sides to every argument? I thought he was just asking fans to support the football.
If he did he is inferring Sisu may be right and I'm not happy with that.
He should keep the football and politics separate.
I'm sure this can't be right and its the papers introducing the politics.

Even sisu aren’t wrong on everything

 

[Liquid Gold]

There you go NOPM only harms city, not sisu.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

The sentiment is that we need every fan possible through the door to help the Club progress - that is something I totally agree with.

 

[italiahorse]

Even sisu aren’t wrong on everything

Can I push you on one example ?

 

[pusbccfc]

I think the problem lies deeper than NOPM.

Of course there is a sizable number of people who haven't been since Northampton.

However, the vast majority of people staying away are involved in no direct boycott. They are staying away because of many small reasons and added together it puts people off. For example:

1) Lost the habit during the year at Northampton and haven't got back into it.
2) The Ricoh match day experience is very poor and isn't one to rush back to for the average fan. Poor atmosphere, hard to get to etc.
3) Lack of success. Forget the Checkatrade, we've done nothing since 87. We must have the lowest average league position across our history for any club.
4) Poor pricing structure and hassle buying tickets. Booking fees, collecting tickets and the Butts being out the way.

The biggest one is the habit. The amount of people I know who had season tickets during the first 4/5 years at the Ricoh who lost the habit is remarkable. They aren't officially boycotting, they have just lost interest.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Can I push you on one example ?

Going back the rent was too high but there will be others not many but others

 

[Otis]

‘Let bygones be bygones, there’s two sides to every argument,’ says boss Mark Robins to stay-away Coventry City fans

I totally agree with all that he's said there and though it's great we are taking loads to MK, it does sadden me that people are not coming to the home league games.

That's our bread and butter and for us to compete and be successful we need more fans backing the team.

There is absolutely no sign of Sisu leaving, so any NOPM stance is just going to keep hurting the club.

I hope MR's words don't fall on deaf ears.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

I totally agree with all that he's said there and though it's great we are taking loads to MK, it does sadden me that people are not coming to the home league games.

That's our bread and butter and for us to compete and be successful we need more fans backing the team.

There is absolutely no sign of Sisu leaving, so any NOPM stance is just going to keep hitting the club.

I hope MR's words don't fall on deaf ears.

100% agree with you Otis, the Club need to do more as well with their ticket pricing and entice more fans back...

But I'm hoping these words don't fall on deaf ears.

 

[italiahorse]

Going back the rent was too high but there will be others not many but others

That can be argued both ways so a clearer example would be nice.

 

[harvey098]

Better to keep his head down and focus on the football rather than wading into the politics TBH. No good can come of it. I generally agree with him and I’ve still read that and got pissed off.

He is concentrating on the football. He’s saying that the best chance he has of providing success on the pitch is if the fans come out and support him and the team.

 

[italiahorse]

100% agree with you Otis, the Club need to do more as well with their ticket pricing and entice more fans back...

But I'm hoping these words don't fall on deaf ears.

It's simple for me. A team playing well will bring most back.
New fans will also be encouraged if they enjoy the football.

 

[MusicDating]

Did he really say there are 2 sides to every argument? I thought he was just asking fans to support the football.
If he did he is inferring Sisu may be right and I'm not happy with that.
He should keep the football and politics separate.
I'm sure this can't be right and its the papers introducing the politics.

I didn't read it like that, I think he's talking about two sides of the argument of attending games or not attending games.

He's asking us to put aside our hatred of SISU to support the team and help with the promotion push.

 

[Covstu]

I think the problem lies deeper than NOPM.

Of course there is a sizable number of people who haven't been since Northampton.

However, the vast majority of people staying away are involved in no direct boycott. They are staying away because of many small reasons and added together it puts people off. For example:

1) Lost the habit during the year at Northampton and haven't got back into it.
2) The Ricoh match day experience is very poor and isn't one to rush back to for the average fan. Poor atmosphere, hard to get to etc.
3) Lack of success. Forget the Checkatrade, we've done nothing since 87. We must have the lowest average league position across our history for any club.
4) Poor pricing structure and hassle buying tickets. Booking fees, collecting tickets and the Butts being out the way.

The biggest one is the habit. The amount of people I know who had season tickets during the first 4/5 years at the Ricoh who lost the habit is remarkable. They aren't officially boycotting, they have just lost interest.

Agree albeit people use NOPM as an excuse then look silly attending cup games such as this. I would also add that sense of duty to support the club, the number of times I really didn’t want to go but went out of that duty to support the club through thick and thin

 

[italiahorse]

I didn't read it like that, I think he's talking about two sides of the argument of attending games or not attending games.

He's asking us to put aside our hatred of SISU to support the team and help with the promotion push.

So the article bought in the politics ?

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

That can be argued both ways so a clearer example would be nice.

How can it be argued both ways the rent was too high it was artificially inflated to prop up a failing business

 

[mark82]

How can it be argued both ways the rent was too high it was artificially inflated to prop up a failing business

Absolutely. They went the wrong way about fixing it though.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Absolutely. They went the wrong way about fixing it though.

They did but they were right and Italia the wasp wanted an occasion they were right

 

[mark82]

The reduction in costs, particularly on player side, is probably the most obvious one. Being self sustainable is obviously a better long term strategy than not. Unfortunately our only real revenue is ticket sales and fans would rather stay at home and moan about the lack of money being spent.

 

[mark82]

They did but they were right and Italia the wasp wanted an occasion they were right

They were right when they said we needed access to more revenue streams.

There aren't many examples but it does happen.

 

[Adge]

Well as the manager he is right about the support-but “let bygones be bygones”, I don’t think so. He has been a bit nieve there with bringing the politics into it and towing the Sisu line. There really was no need as there was bound to be a reaction to that.

 

[Irish Sky Blue]

I think the vast majority of people who go are already doing what he asks for, putting Sisu on one side and going because, in spite of Sisu, this is still our club, not theirs. Certainly this is the way I look at things. Like the overwhelming majority of those that go or those that don’t go I want Sisu to leave. I don’t see any sustainable future with them. I disagree with Robins in that I don’t see two sides to the story. To me, what Sisu have done is indefensible. Their measures have wrecked our club, in some cases deliberately.
Brighton’s story I think is a good one to state, a good model to hopefully follow. The big difference is that they,presumably, have owners who want the best and who work cooperatively alongside all of the stakeholders who have an interest in the future of the club. That can never and will never be Sisu.
I agree, the more fans who go, the better the immediate future will be. I think that this will happen more slowly because of Sisu as they have taken away people’s ability to hope, dream and trust in a brighter future for the club. A team winning and playing good football in a stadium that has an atmosphere as good as the one on Saturday will I think eventually encourage a lot more to return, in spite of Sisu.

 

[Captain Dart]

The reduction in costs, particularly on player side, is probably the most obvious one. Being self sustainable is obviously a better long term strategy than not. Unfortunately our only real revenue is ticket sales and fans would rather stay at home and moan about the lack of money being spent.

I see clearly what they've done to control costs but I disagree profoundly in the manner they've done it, I despise them for the lies they've told over the years about their plans and I certainly don't applaud the 2 relegations the club has undergone on that road.

Then there is the burning question of what are future plans for the club, nothing is settled like is is for most other well established English clubs, is the plan simply to yo yo between D4 & D3? To my mind that is not good enough, we should be in the Championship with a solid chance of promotion.

 

[Captain Dart]

The reduction in costs, particularly on player side, is probably the most obvious one. Being self sustainable is obviously a better long term strategy than not. Unfortunately our only real revenue is ticket sales and fans would rather stay at home and moan about the lack of money being spent.

Not true, you still believe the nonsense Fisher spouts.

Firstly CCFC made almost £2.5M on transfer dealings in the last accounts, slightly more the year before.

There is also a central distribution from the EFL/Premier League to all EFL League 2 clubs, per link below for last season it was about £1,000,000
How Much Prize Money For Winning L2? | VitalFootball.co.uk

 

[skybluetony176]

Unfortunately it’s going to take more than an MR’s interview to undo the work SISU have put in to get us where we are. He’s right for the most part, it doesn’t need LR to add fillers but MR is basically confirming what we all know anyway. And that is we have invisible owners and basically promoting success at the club is down to us. MR’s is basically saying he owners aren’t going to help me make a success of the club so I need your (the fans) help. I guess people who are staying away have to weigh that up. Not so sure about zombie club but we’re definitely lumbered with Zombie owners.

 

[Johnnythespider]

"Two sides to every story" - John Lydon, and if he said it, it must be true

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Well as the manager he is right about the support-but “let bygones be bygones”, I don’t think so. He has been a bit nieve there with bringing the politics into it and towing the Sisu line. There really was no need as there was bound to be a reaction to that.

still don't get where that bit came from.

That is surely not a quote from him. The rest was pretty much what he said live on the BBC draw. at no point do I recollect he said let bygones be bygones???? or theres two sides to every story???

Where was these extracted from?