clint van damme
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Eastern Europeans aren't refugees. Though that could soon change with things escalating again in Bosnia.
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Otis
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We can't let simple little facts get in the way of a good rant can we.
fernandopartridge
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What's that Clint?
Funny that certain people have vanished down a hole on the subject of innocents being massacred by terrorists..... no Fria Taden or Breitbart shares on the MAGA hat wearing gun toting white teenage murderer who reportedly trained with the separatists from the Republic of Florida.., Still make Eastern Europeans into the enemy as a diversion...
I don’t know as he was adopted.
clint van damme
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Russian trained paramilitaries have been operating in Srpska in Bosnia. Rumoured that Serbs have just ordered a load of weapons to arm the Bosnian Serb police. The latter is a copy cat of one of the key triggers of the last conflict but I can't find that reported in any reputable source so could be bullshit.
Coupled with the fact that there are now Saudi sponsored Wahhibist mosques in Bosnia and I can't see this ending well.
I always thought this region would kick off again, hopefully I'm wrong.
edit: it seems the arming of the police has been reported in the Guardian, just found this article, I know a lot on here don't consider the Guardian a credible source!
Arms shipment to Bosnian Serbs stokes EU fears
fernandopartridge
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Cheers. I find the former Yugoslavia fascinating. Have you ready any of the Anthony Lloyd books on the war?
clint van damme
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I haven't read a lot on the subject but rather watched a lot of documentaries.
I have a bit of a fascination with the region as well.
I think it stems from having visited the former Yugoslavia just before the third Balkan war which began in 1991.
It was such a normal country, supposedly communist but very westernised and very entrepreneurial.
Incredible to think what followed and has lead me to believe that it could happen almost anywhere although it obviously has previous with regard to war breaking out.
skybluetony176
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I bet they all jumped up and clicked their heels too. They might be a bit stabby but they have good old traditional British class, so it’s OK.
skybluetony176
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I reckon all the English stabbings are like this.
Looks more French to me.
fernandopartridge
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Give the Anthony Lloyd books a go, the one about the Bosnian war is fascinating but funnily gives a sense of the West and their contradicting views of Islamic 'fighters'.
Otis
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Racist!
dutchman
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And neither are any of the so-called 'asylum seekers'. Most are economic migrants, a large number are wanted for sex crimes in their own country and a handful are terrorists.
eastwoodsdustman
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Bosnia is a poweder keg which could well explode when the IS fighters come back from Syria and Turkey looking for the next place to wage their jihad. The Serbs could be arming themselves in anticipation of them returning. Ihope that it is for this reason rather than trying to wage war themselves.
Turkey is now the largest threat to Europe with its support of IS and agression in the middle east.
Turkey is now the largest threat to Europe with its support of IS and agression in the middle east.
Really? So they could just go back and restart their lives in Syria or Afghanistan? Must be easier than having to learn a foreign language and having to wait maybe years for a work permit. What are the statistics on people wanted for sex crimes in Syria and Afghanistan? I thought Muslim men could do what they want with women ;-) And yes, I am aware that parts of these countries are functioning. Just interested in how people on an island off the coast of Europe, known by some as „global Britain“, know these facts?
According to one well known rich kid of Turkish and Swiss descent ( going back to the 16 century as recently proved by DNA of a rich ancestor ) and opportunist, who is looking for the top job in a country where he was not even born, Britain is a liberal and open country. Which means „refugees are welcome“, or does it?
clint van damme
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the Serbs have had designs on Bosnia for a very long time. It's got nothing to do with Syria.
It's definitely been targeted as somewhere where the population is rife for radicalisation, hence, as I mentioned, the opening of Wahhibist sponsored mosques paid for by our good friends the Saudis.
As international community stood by while events like Srebrenica and the siege of Sarajevo happened it's hardly surprising really.
Does Turkey support ISIS? Or does it support it only when it's fighting Kurds? I genuinely don't know but I was under the impression that it was a fairly secular country not that long ago.
Remember, we too have supported Islamists in both Syria and Libya when it suited us.
clint van damme
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I don't think people fleeing Syria are economic migrants, have you seen the pictures if places like Aleppo?
They basically had 3 choices, stay where they are and in all likelihood die.
Flee to Europe or flee to the caliphate.
What would you have said if they'd fled to the caliphate?
Any country who takes part in a war like that and doesn't offer refuge to those fleeing needs to have a good look at itself.
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Frankly, I'd consider myself lucky to be born in the country people want to flee to, rather than the one they want to flee from...
clint van damme
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just had a look, the Bosnian one is called My war gone by, I miss it so by the look if it.
I've a feeling I've read it before but some time ago so I've ordered a copy.
dutchman
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The Syrians can, at least the ones who aren't wanted for terrorism offences. The war is over there now, Assad won, there is no shortage of safe areas.
Meanwhile there are 14,000 families in Coventry on the waiting list for social housing.
dutchman
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I didn't mention 'Muslims' or any ethnic group, you did!
It makes no difference to me if a sex criminal seeking so-called 'political asylum' comes from the middle east, north Africa or eastern europe. I'd still send the bastards home to face justice in their own country.
eastwoodsdustman
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That’s exactly my point. It will more than likely end up a power struggle in Bosnia and It’s a case of who tries to go first for it.
Turkey have been supporting IS for a long time. Giving them free passage to war zones and allowing training camp to go unnoticed. The current regime in Turkey are pushing them towards a more Islamic ideology and will need to be brought into line before too long.
fernandopartridge
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The mujahideen were present in the Bosnian war
Sky Blue Pete
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Bosnia is in serious trouble as they teach the children different histories in separate communities in separate schools. It’s so sad. No one has children hoping they can be part of a society at war where neighbours attack neighbours. So so sad
Have you seen pictures of Syria? I don’t know if it’s all over. The wil be reprisals against people in the areas where people held out.
Don’t see the comparison waiting for social housing and returning to an unstable ruined country.
The only problem being that you are claiming that there are lots amongst the refugees. You don’t know if that is true or who they are if it is true. Just claiming that there are many doesn’t justify turning refugees away .
Captain Dart
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Plenty of fighting and bombing still going on in Syria, now the Turks are bombing the shit out of the Kurdish enclaves on their Southern border.
Bombed train station N of Afrin.
IS 'appears' to be almost subdued, the Egyptians insurgents in Sinai are more the focus of attention now.
Map of Syrian Civil War - Syria news today - syria.liveuamap.com
But it is true that the Syrian government has retaken most of its territory, still very messy.
henry the wasp
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They are turning his first book into a film. Great read.
Used to be fascinated by this war aswell. Watcing Martin Bell do his reports from there. Got loads of books on it . Even went there 2 years after the war to go to a lot of places he mentioned daily in his reports, Tuzla, Mostar, Srebrenica etc.
dutchman
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I don't have the figures for England because the government refuses to release them but 'asylum seekers' are suspects in 11% of all sex crimes in Bavaria despite being only a miniscule proportion of the total population and from reading the details of court reports in this country I doubt the situation is very different here.
Why are refugees disproportionately likely to be suspects in sexual assault cases?
The article mentions several reasons and concludes that if trends from other immigrants are followed, it will gradually become more normal rather than worse. The number of crimes from this group is lower than I would have thought having read the hysteria on the internet.
dutchman
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Gotta love the hypocricy there from the CIA-controlled propaganda station.
True civilian death toll in Mosul feared to be 40,000 - eight times higher than previous estimates
So you are saying that the CIA is covering for Trump as Trump relaxed the orders on targeting?