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Londonccfcfan
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Burge 8...superb save first half, but collected ball brilliantly. Commanded his area for a change
Grimmer 7
McDonald 9
Willis n/a
Haynes 8,,,,,almost won it for us. But for a great save.
Doyle 8
Bayliss 7
Shipley 9
Kelly n/a but started very brightly.
JCH 8
McNulty 6 didn’t look himself , didn’t hold the ball up as well as he can.
JP 7
Hyam 7
Biamou 6
Robins 10, changed formation superbly, good substations.
Grimmer 7
McDonald 9
Willis n/a
Haynes 8,,,,,almost won it for us. But for a great save.
Doyle 8
Bayliss 7
Shipley 9
Kelly n/a but started very brightly.
JCH 8
McNulty 6 didn’t look himself , didn’t hold the ball up as well as he can.
JP 7
Hyam 7
Biamou 6
Robins 10, changed formation superbly, good substations.
ccfcway
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I would give him an 8, but definitely did his homework today and you only have to see how annoyed Evans is to show who can claim the moral victory in this draw.
rob9872
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Agree with most of that although think 9 for Shipley too high. Burges kicking (apart from first one) was much improved too.
Londonccfcfan
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Shipley was motm for me (apart from a couple rubbish corners)
but there was a few candidates from, Mcdonald,Doyle, Burge, jch.
Referee and linesman were atrocious.
Esoterica
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Burge 7.5 - Made a couple of decent saves in either half. Kicking was better today as most of it was out of his hands.
Grimmer 7 - Willing outlet on the right with not much end product today. Got skinned round the outside by his winger a couple of times which is his weakness.
McDonald 8 - Better game than he's had for a while and stepped up after the red card when needed. Always feel like he's got a dodgy pen in him though, gave his marker a silly push in the box 2nd half that had me holding my breath.
Willis 3 - Completely unnecessary challenge that should have cost us the game.
Hyam 7 - Did ok, said on the match thread that he is a little too short for my liking - can't ever see him being someone's first choice centre back. Seems quite comfortable with the ball at his feet though.
Haynes 8 - Really good going forwards today, carried the ball and beat a man several times, had a shot turned onto the post and linked quite nicely with Shipley. Guilty of some aimless long balls first half.
Doyle 8 - Handed out some proper bollockings today, most notably to Hyam in the second half. Wasteful a couple of freekicks from decent positions and looked knackered last 20 minutes
Bayliss 7 - Worked hard and passed the ball nicely when he had it. Was very narrow before he moved central.
Shipley 7.5 Played a lovely pass to put Haynes through and did an awful lot of running today. Not a fan of his floaty corner variation though.
Kelly N/A - Looked sharp, involved and most importantly playing a higher role in what turned out to be just a cameo.
JCH 8 - Bought a lot of fouls today. It's very obvious he has a higher pedigree and is probably too good for this division. Sticking his penalty where the keeper pointed was just brilliant. Spent a lot of the 2nd half on his arse though.
McNulty 6 - Didn't get a sniff today really, sacrificed out wide first half as we regrouped after the red card and 2nd half had a couple of mazy dribbles but crowded out with too many people to beat.
Ponti 6.5 - Pressured Mansfield but never on the ball in the areas where he'd be most dangerous
Biamou 6 - Won a corner when completely alone and that was about all he had time for.
Robins 9 - Thought he got a lot right today. We were on it from the get go, started Kelly visibly higher up the pitch than Doyle and up til the red card I doubt Mansfield have been put that much on the back foot at home all season. When we passed the ball around we passed the ball around well, for longer spells than you normally see in L2 even with 10 men. Saw the game out til HT and adjusted the team accordingly for the 2nd half.
The Game 10: I thought it was a really great game of footy today. Had a bit of everything in the game: red card, dodgy penalty, couple of meaty challenges, some decent saves, occasional decent moves, noisy support from both sets of fans throughout and some edge between the managers.
Grimmer 7 - Willing outlet on the right with not much end product today. Got skinned round the outside by his winger a couple of times which is his weakness.
McDonald 8 - Better game than he's had for a while and stepped up after the red card when needed. Always feel like he's got a dodgy pen in him though, gave his marker a silly push in the box 2nd half that had me holding my breath.
Willis 3 - Completely unnecessary challenge that should have cost us the game.
Hyam 7 - Did ok, said on the match thread that he is a little too short for my liking - can't ever see him being someone's first choice centre back. Seems quite comfortable with the ball at his feet though.
Haynes 8 - Really good going forwards today, carried the ball and beat a man several times, had a shot turned onto the post and linked quite nicely with Shipley. Guilty of some aimless long balls first half.
Doyle 8 - Handed out some proper bollockings today, most notably to Hyam in the second half. Wasteful a couple of freekicks from decent positions and looked knackered last 20 minutes
Bayliss 7 - Worked hard and passed the ball nicely when he had it. Was very narrow before he moved central.
Shipley 7.5 Played a lovely pass to put Haynes through and did an awful lot of running today. Not a fan of his floaty corner variation though.
Kelly N/A - Looked sharp, involved and most importantly playing a higher role in what turned out to be just a cameo.
JCH 8 - Bought a lot of fouls today. It's very obvious he has a higher pedigree and is probably too good for this division. Sticking his penalty where the keeper pointed was just brilliant. Spent a lot of the 2nd half on his arse though.
McNulty 6 - Didn't get a sniff today really, sacrificed out wide first half as we regrouped after the red card and 2nd half had a couple of mazy dribbles but crowded out with too many people to beat.
Ponti 6.5 - Pressured Mansfield but never on the ball in the areas where he'd be most dangerous
Biamou 6 - Won a corner when completely alone and that was about all he had time for.
Robins 9 - Thought he got a lot right today. We were on it from the get go, started Kelly visibly higher up the pitch than Doyle and up til the red card I doubt Mansfield have been put that much on the back foot at home all season. When we passed the ball around we passed the ball around well, for longer spells than you normally see in L2 even with 10 men. Saw the game out til HT and adjusted the team accordingly for the 2nd half.
The Game 10: I thought it was a really great game of footy today. Had a bit of everything in the game: red card, dodgy penalty, couple of meaty challenges, some decent saves, occasional decent moves, noisy support from both sets of fans throughout and some edge between the managers.
pusbccfc
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Burge: 6 - Made a couple of really sound saves in the second half. However, most of the game he was all over the place. Kicking was shocking.
Grimmer: 6 - Sound performance. Some good moments, some bad.
Willis N/A
Rod: 7.5 - Did very well today.
Haynes: 8.5 - Offensively the best I've seen him all season. Bombed on forward, had a brilliant effort saved and struck a good partnership with Shipley. Some clever bits of play from both of them in the second half.
Doyle: 4.5 - I know his job isn't to play the ball around, but my God his passing today was appalling. Endless stupid dinked passes going to no one. If he played simple football each week he would be much more effective.
Bayliss: 7 - Certainly not his best.
Shipley: 8 - Worked so well with Haynes. His silly corners pee me off a bit.
McNulty: 5 - Isolated for most of the game. Almost trying too hard to score in the second half trying to dribble past 4 players.
JCH: 8.5 - Very good performance again. Clearly a player good enough to play higher. Strong, quick and good first touch. Great penalty as well.
Subs:
Ponti: 7 - I would be tempted to start him Tuesday. Looks like a man these days. Definitely bulked up.
Hyam: 7 - Did well again in the circumstances.
Biamou: 5 - Did his job. Miscommunication with Haynes meant he spurred a very decent chance late on.
Grimmer: 6 - Sound performance. Some good moments, some bad.
Willis N/A
Rod: 7.5 - Did very well today.
Haynes: 8.5 - Offensively the best I've seen him all season. Bombed on forward, had a brilliant effort saved and struck a good partnership with Shipley. Some clever bits of play from both of them in the second half.
Doyle: 4.5 - I know his job isn't to play the ball around, but my God his passing today was appalling. Endless stupid dinked passes going to no one. If he played simple football each week he would be much more effective.
Bayliss: 7 - Certainly not his best.
Shipley: 8 - Worked so well with Haynes. His silly corners pee me off a bit.
McNulty: 5 - Isolated for most of the game. Almost trying too hard to score in the second half trying to dribble past 4 players.
JCH: 8.5 - Very good performance again. Clearly a player good enough to play higher. Strong, quick and good first touch. Great penalty as well.
Subs:
Ponti: 7 - I would be tempted to start him Tuesday. Looks like a man these days. Definitely bulked up.
Hyam: 7 - Did well again in the circumstances.
Biamou: 5 - Did his job. Miscommunication with Haynes meant he spurred a very decent chance late on.
Legia Sky Blue
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[QUOTE="Esoterica, post: 1488188, member: 6511".
Willis 3 - Completely unnecessary challenge that should have cost us the game.
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Need to see it again, but I don't think Willis could do much once Rose got in front of him. Rose deliberately cut across Willis to make sure he was caught by him although I notice on the Mansfield forum someone posted that Rose was indicating to his bench that he wasn't actually touched by Willis, which might also explain Robins anger at Rose.
Willis 3 - Completely unnecessary challenge that should have cost us the game.
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Need to see it again, but I don't think Willis could do much once Rose got in front of him. Rose deliberately cut across Willis to make sure he was caught by him although I notice on the Mansfield forum someone posted that Rose was indicating to his bench that he wasn't actually touched by Willis, which might also explain Robins anger at Rose.
larry_david
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Thought rose looked like a lost little boy after the 16th minute
Esoterica
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Rose definitely played for it and went down easily but I think Willis puts an arm around him as he catches his heels (IF he catches his heels) and I thought that was the damning part. I did only watch it back a couple of times though and have had a drink or two since so it's probably not a reliable witness statement!
Londonccfcfan
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It was definately a 50/50, contact was minimal if any. But it was clever play from him. He knew he had to touch it and then just waited for contact. His touch was heavy and Burge was in decent position to collect the ball.
But I suppose if your the last man. He’s gotta go, it was just unfortunate.
steve82
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Burge 6.5
Haynes 6.5
Willis- big fat zero is generous enough!
Mcdonald 7.5 MOTM
Grimmer 6.5
Bayliss 7
Kelly 5
Doyle 7
Shipley 7
McNulty 6
JCH 6.5
Hyam 6.5
Ponticelli 5.5
Biamou 6
Pleased with the start we made, but importantly the response to going 1-0 down after a poor naive challenge from the most experienced man in the defence. He really let his team mates down with that challenge. School boy error.
Team really dug in and battled for each other for a change and a huge slice of luck for the pen. Forwards were isolated but the point was more than deserved against a good side who have some good home form.
The ref had a shocker, didn't feel it was a pen but we're not gonna turn down a gift. Felt the only decision he did get right all day was the red card unfortunately and was the easiest decision.
Haynes 6.5
Willis- big fat zero is generous enough!
Mcdonald 7.5 MOTM
Grimmer 6.5
Bayliss 7
Kelly 5
Doyle 7
Shipley 7
McNulty 6
JCH 6.5
Hyam 6.5
Ponticelli 5.5
Biamou 6
Pleased with the start we made, but importantly the response to going 1-0 down after a poor naive challenge from the most experienced man in the defence. He really let his team mates down with that challenge. School boy error.
Team really dug in and battled for each other for a change and a huge slice of luck for the pen. Forwards were isolated but the point was more than deserved against a good side who have some good home form.
The ref had a shocker, didn't feel it was a pen but we're not gonna turn down a gift. Felt the only decision he did get right all day was the red card unfortunately and was the easiest decision.
steve82
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Poor poor judgement from Jordan Willis today, to be briefed all week on the tricks of what Danny Rose does and does well and at the first time of trouble he give the ref the easiest decision of the day to make.
2 games Jordan Willis has played v Danny Rose and he's had his pants down twice.
Adge
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No such thing as last man-been listening to too many pundits on the box.
larry_david
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to get caught out 3 times by their goal kick is absolutely disgusting, but anyways, onto the ratings!
Burge - 7 Saved when he had to, collected when he had to, a slightly dodgy moment in the second half but over all, didn't have much to do. Had one shocking kick but every one was fine.
Grimmer - 7 Solid. Boy did we miss him when he was out. I'm still having nightmares about Di-ke-evens performance against Accrington. Didn't get forward as much understandably and did get run at alot by their pacey lad Hamilton but he's a very solid performer at this level.
Mcdonald - 7.5 - Thought he did most things well. For the red card I thought he was at fault as he stood with his hand up claiming offside but having watched it back, don't think he was in a position to do anything anyway.
Willis - What do you say about that?
Haynes - 8 MOTM That was the Haynes towards the end of last season who ran at players, beat players like they wern't there. Outside, inside, didn't matter he just went at them. Hit the post after a good save from their keeper. Should be an asset this season, I think the injury pre-season affected him more than we think.
Bayliss - 6.5 Better than the Accrington game, some good touches and some good runs. Wish he'd sign a new contract though
Kelly - No score due to circumstance but had a great bit of composure before the red card where he sent their player completely the wrong way.
Doyle - 7 Thought he passed it around well today bar one moment where he thought he was Iniesta. That tackle after the red card was excellent what we needed as fans, got us back into the game vocally I thought after understandably being subdued from the spawniest free kick you'll ever see.
Shipley - 8 Much better. Think he was coming off for Reid before JCH's little knock but played well, great little interchange passes with Haynes and Ponte
Mcnulty - 5 I love Marc but there were a few moments in the second half where he'd beaten his man and just had to shoot, 22 yards out, have a dig man we know you can!
JCH - When backs against the wall he's the sort of character you want. Was never a pen but tucked it away superbly. He must be a nightmare to play against, get the feeling he loves being back as well.
Subs:
Hyamm - 7 Thought he did well and every time i've seen him he looks solid
JP - 7 for impact, ran and ran and got stuck in. Unlucky with a few little breaks that just fell the other way
Max - N/A but I will say, just shoot!! Tried to play someone in at the end when he was 15 yards out, head down in 91st min..just shoot!
Ref was awful, atmosphere was class, Evans is laughable, my fav away day so far this season.
Burge - 7 Saved when he had to, collected when he had to, a slightly dodgy moment in the second half but over all, didn't have much to do. Had one shocking kick but every one was fine.
Grimmer - 7 Solid. Boy did we miss him when he was out. I'm still having nightmares about Di-ke-evens performance against Accrington. Didn't get forward as much understandably and did get run at alot by their pacey lad Hamilton but he's a very solid performer at this level.
Mcdonald - 7.5 - Thought he did most things well. For the red card I thought he was at fault as he stood with his hand up claiming offside but having watched it back, don't think he was in a position to do anything anyway.
Willis - What do you say about that?
Haynes - 8 MOTM That was the Haynes towards the end of last season who ran at players, beat players like they wern't there. Outside, inside, didn't matter he just went at them. Hit the post after a good save from their keeper. Should be an asset this season, I think the injury pre-season affected him more than we think.
Bayliss - 6.5 Better than the Accrington game, some good touches and some good runs. Wish he'd sign a new contract though
Kelly - No score due to circumstance but had a great bit of composure before the red card where he sent their player completely the wrong way.
Doyle - 7 Thought he passed it around well today bar one moment where he thought he was Iniesta. That tackle after the red card was excellent what we needed as fans, got us back into the game vocally I thought after understandably being subdued from the spawniest free kick you'll ever see.
Shipley - 8 Much better. Think he was coming off for Reid before JCH's little knock but played well, great little interchange passes with Haynes and Ponte
Mcnulty - 5 I love Marc but there were a few moments in the second half where he'd beaten his man and just had to shoot, 22 yards out, have a dig man we know you can!
JCH - When backs against the wall he's the sort of character you want. Was never a pen but tucked it away superbly. He must be a nightmare to play against, get the feeling he loves being back as well.
Subs:
Hyamm - 7 Thought he did well and every time i've seen him he looks solid
JP - 7 for impact, ran and ran and got stuck in. Unlucky with a few little breaks that just fell the other way
Max - N/A but I will say, just shoot!! Tried to play someone in at the end when he was 15 yards out, head down in 91st min..just shoot!
Ref was awful, atmosphere was class, Evans is laughable, my fav away day so far this season.
fernandopartridge
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Burge 7
Grimmer 6 poor on the ball but gets very little help from Bayliss
McDonald 6 much better second half
Willis 0 should never have been caught like that regardless of whether he fouled or not
Haynes 7 ok defensively and good movement and shot in the lead up to our goal. Like him or not he's a good asset going forwards.
Kelly 6 not on that long but we were in control before the sending off
Doyle 6 terrible first half, aimless and hospital balls but his unbelievable energy was great second half. Please don't take any more set pieces
Shipley 6 tried hard and works well with Haynes. Set piece delivery far better than Doyle
Bayliss 5 getting caught in possession a lot and running into blind alleys, did some nice things but think he needs a rest
McNulty 6 very little to work with but kept moving and trying to get involved
JCH 6 some good, some bad. I didn't think it was a pen but the replay shows otherwise. Great penalty and looks a good target man. We're still learning how to play with and off him I feel
Subs
Ponticelli 7 purely for his energy which perked us up at that point
Hyam 6 did ok in the end but some bizarre decisions
Grimmer 6 poor on the ball but gets very little help from Bayliss
McDonald 6 much better second half
Willis 0 should never have been caught like that regardless of whether he fouled or not
Haynes 7 ok defensively and good movement and shot in the lead up to our goal. Like him or not he's a good asset going forwards.
Kelly 6 not on that long but we were in control before the sending off
Doyle 6 terrible first half, aimless and hospital balls but his unbelievable energy was great second half. Please don't take any more set pieces
Shipley 6 tried hard and works well with Haynes. Set piece delivery far better than Doyle
Bayliss 5 getting caught in possession a lot and running into blind alleys, did some nice things but think he needs a rest
McNulty 6 very little to work with but kept moving and trying to get involved
JCH 6 some good, some bad. I didn't think it was a pen but the replay shows otherwise. Great penalty and looks a good target man. We're still learning how to play with and off him I feel
Subs
Ponticelli 7 purely for his energy which perked us up at that point
Hyam 6 did ok in the end but some bizarre decisions
harvey098
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Comments on Willis seem harsh to me. I went yesterday and my first opinion of it was that it was almost an unavoidable tangle as Willis was running after the ball. I think the ref has to give a red but not sure there was anything Willis could do about it. He doesn’t actually go to tackle him, Rose just almost runs into Willis’ path and goes down.
Otis
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Willis grabs him round the waist.
Amcoventry
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Nice comments well said and well done to those involved
eastwoodsdustman
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Forwards are always taught or told to run across in front of the defender when going through on goal aren’t they? Rose did it and Willis had no real option other than to just give up on the ball and man.
The ball should have been dealt with better before it got to that point but once in that position it was pretty likely to happen.
The ball should have been dealt with better before it got to that point but once in that position it was pretty likely to happen.
Amcoventry
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So your not a Bourge fan. Everyone else rates a good performance?? Any reason??
Otis
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Because he's scoring Burge and not Bourge?
Esoterica
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He might not rate Bourge but he is pro Letariat.
covcity4life
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Burge had a hood game
Shipley was nothing special.
Shipley was nothing special.
italiahorse
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Burge could have beat the forward to the ball rather than leave Willis to deal with it.
He just can't judge distance on the long ball into our half.
That forward ran 35 yards he only needed to go 15 yards.
covcity4life
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Yeah i heard that. Missed the sending off instance so need watch highlights
Not going to absolve him but he did it at Lincoln the other week and it ended badly.
pusbccfc
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I am a Burge fan, but he was caught out of position a few times. He has a good game, nothing special.
rob9872
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I get that some dont rate him, but I was more surprised that you said his kicking was bad yesterday. A wayward first kick into touch but then long and down the middle almost every time after. Idiots in the stand wanted him to do it quicker occasionally but usually to one player on his own among 3 defenders.
rob9872
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Absolute garbage
Speedies_Chips
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Think that was Exeter.
There was an element of doubt as
I posted it.
My shit memory I'm affraid.
Thanks for correcting.
Londonccfcfan
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I’m one of Burges biggest critics. But he was very good. Can remember three decent saves. But most pleasing was his handling/catching the ball. And he actually commanded his whole penalty area which was really pleasing to see.
Even for the penalty he was on the edge of his box with ball in hand after Willis collision.
Must say having a conversation about him yesterday he certainly keeps better when the ball is dry and sun is out. (Wembley springs to mind) But that’s the same for all keepers.