Burge "injured" (3 Viewers)

Cavan O'Doherty

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Because a professional and experienced football manager selects him in the team

As always though, the best managers and judge of players are on internet forums
So you’re telling me that you think Haynes is a good player? If so, then you sir are deluded.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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So you’re telling me that you think Haynes is a good player? If so, then you sir are deluded.

No I’m telling you a professional and experienced football manager selects him in the team and there might be a slight chance he has a better idea than you when it comes to managing a football team
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Yes because Reid was at left back?

Exactly, that’s precisely my point. The way some people on this forum hark on, he’s responsible for every ill in our team.

Based on today, he was our least worse defender. The other 3 and Burge were that bad. I don’t perticularly rate Haynes, but I think he gets a lot of undue stick.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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What makes it so frustrating was that he made such a good save against Newport.

It's the hope isn't it? You think they've turned a corner and then it's back to classic flapping.

I agree with Nick though, I don't belive he was genuinely injured. Robins was very quick to come out with 'it was his knee' when Clive asked him too. It was almost preloaded before the question even finished leaving his mouth actually.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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No I’m telling you a professional and experienced football manager selects him in the team and there might be a slight chance he has a better idea than you when it comes to managing a football team

Sports fans are the worst. As soon as you like someone, they can do no wrong, of you don’t like them, they can do no right.

I absolutely dreaded Doyle and Platt in the Hoofroyd day’s. I couldn’t see any positives back then. Mind you, was about 15 back then — everything was black and white.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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Sports fans are the worst. As soon as you like someone, they can do no wrong, of you don’t like them, they can do no right.

I absolutely dreaded Doyle and Platt in the Hoofroyd day’s. I couldn’t see any positives back then. Mind you, was about 15 back then — everything was black and white.

It was the same with Ruben Lameiras and Jordan Clarke. Both disliked on here told they wouldn’t play professional football ever again now play for clubs 8th and 9th in L1
 

Cavan O'Doherty

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No I’m telling you a professional and experienced football manager selects him in the team and there might be a slight chance he has a better idea than you when it comes to managing a football team
The only reason he’s in the team is because there’s no one better. Lucky for Haynes that Stokes is just as bad as him.
 

Grendel

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So in your opinion Haynes never made a mistake and Grimmer did because Grimmer overlaps his winger? When his first mistake was a weak header back to the goalkeeper?..

To suggest grimmer is as bad as Haynes is frankly absurd.
 

skybluepm2

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The only reason he’s in the team is because there’s no one better. Lucky for Haynes that Stokes is just as bad as him.

Absolutely. Haynes is one of the worst players to ever pull on he shirt, and that isn’t an exaggeration. Goal 2 today, where the fuck was he?
 

Grendel

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The only reason he’s in the team is because there’s no one better. Lucky for Haynes that Stokes is just as bad as him.

Stokes is far better as a defender. He is better at covering centre backs when they are stretched, he is more disciplined at keeping position and far stronger and more powerful in the air.
 

Cavan O'Doherty

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Stokes is far better as a defender. He is better at covering centre backs when they are stretched, he is more disciplined at keeping position and far stronger and more powerful in the air.
Yes if I had it my way I’d have Stokes in the team, but whilst Stokes is better defensively the attacking side to his game is very poor. Mind you, the same could be said about Haynes!
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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Absolutely. Haynes is one of the worst players to ever pull on he shirt, and that isn’t an exaggeration. Goal 2 today, where the fuck was he?

Haynes is now to blame for Doyle losing possession in the middle of the park and Hyam and McDonald going to the same player leaving a man free for a run at a goal?
 

Nick

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Haynes is now to blame for Doyle losing possession in the middle of the park and Hyam and McDonald going to the same player leaving a man free for a run at a goal?

Shouldn't have been a 2 on 2 in the first place to be fair. Wouldn't say Haynes fault, but down his side there was nobody there or covering him.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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I rate Stokes above Haynes too and I’d rather he played. I just find the ‘he didn’t make a mistake because he doesn’t overlap his winger’ and trying to blame him for everything and anything a bit puzzling
 

Cavan O'Doherty

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I rate Stokes above Haynes too and I’d rather he played. I just find the ‘he didn’t make a mistake because he doesn’t overlap his winger’ and trying to blame him for everything and anything a bit puzzling
You’re twisting my words. Haynes didn’t make a mistake because when things aren’t going well he doesn’t want the ball, offer himself or take a risk as he is mentally weak. This was shown when he was bottling tackles and headers at Newport.
 

JulianDarbyFTW

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The season, as a whole, has been brilliant from a defensive point of view when compared to other teams in this division. One shite performance isn't enough to lambast the entire back four. Without them, we'd be languishing in mid-table given our goalscoring record early on. Let's put this down as an aberration and move on. Unless it happens again next week, of course.
 

fernandopartridge

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OBrien needs to start on Saturday for me. I honestly don't understand how plain it is to see that none of our keepers are good enough. That's been the case for about 3 or 4 seasons now, yet manager after manager after manager sticks with poor keepers. For all the Burge supporters I just don't see it. Yes, he made a couple of decent saves on Friday, but that's what's he's paid to do, you can't look past his mistakes all the while claiming made a decent save 3 weeks ago. He needs to go in the summer, as does OB as does Oggy. Burge hasn't improved AT ALL in about 4 seasons. The goalkeeper coach has to shoulder some of that blame.
O'Brien is shite as well. Burge has improved a fair bit he's just too error prone.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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You’re twisting my words. Haynes didn’t make a mistake because when things aren’t going well he doesn’t want the ball, offer himself or take a risk as he is mentally weak. This was shown when he was bottling tackles and headers at Newport.

Oh ‘mentally weak’ knew you were a relation of Adge’s. Do you also wish Haynes gets season ending injuries?

It’s just funny. People complain he doesn’t get up the pitch, for the second goal instead of ‘hiding’ as you claim he seems to be further up the pitch offering a option in attack when things aren’t going well. Yet will complain ‘where is he’ in defence for the second goal
 

pastythegreat

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Absolutely. Haynes is one of the worst players to ever pull on he shirt, and that isn’t an exaggeration. Goal 2 today, where the fuck was he?
As we had the ball he'd of been on the half way line on the left offering himself as an outlet to attack. Where would you rather him be when we have the ball? Standing on the edge of our box so he can be berated on Here for being shit going forwards as Well as shit at defending?

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skybluepm2

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He’s further up the pitch exactly like Grimmer. You don’t really expect Doyle to lose the ball like that then it becomes a two on two

No and I completely agree that Doyle and Grimmer’s roles in goals 2 and 3 are completely acceptable but it’s not something we’re used to seeing. Haynes has been fully involved in the goals conceded against Luton, Crewe and Newport and cannot be trusted.
 

Nick

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Haynes would have have time to get back surely? Doyle was going toward our goal so surely he would track back a bit?
 

skybluepm2

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As we had the ball he'd of been on the half way line on the left offering himself as an outlet to attack. Where would you rather him be when we have the ball? Standing on the edge of our box so he can be berated on Here for being shit going forwards as Well as shit at defending?

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He IS shit going forwards as well as being shit at defending.

Besides, hardly busted a gut to get back did he? Still not in shot when the ball was stroked past the exposed Lee Burge.
 

Cavan O'Doherty

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Oh ‘mentally weak’ knew you were a relation of Adge’s. Do you also wish Haynes gets season ending injuries?

It’s just funny. People complain he doesn’t get up the pitch, for the second goal instead of ‘hiding’ as you claim he seems to be further up the pitch offering a option in attack when things aren’t going well. Yet will complain ‘where is he’ in defence for the second goal
My experience of you is that you have no balance. In your eyes a player can do no wrong. Stop defending the indefensible.
 

Cavan O'Doherty

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Oh ‘mentally weak’ knew you were a relation of Adge’s. Do you also wish Haynes gets season ending injuries?

It’s just funny. People complain he doesn’t get up the pitch, for the second goal instead of ‘hiding’ as you claim he seems to be further up the pitch offering a option in attack when things aren’t going well. Yet will complain ‘where is he’ in defence for the second goal
And how did you come to that conclusion? Start making up nonsense as your point is nonsense.
 

Adge

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Oh ‘mentally weak’ knew you were a relation of Adge’s. Do you also wish Haynes gets season ending injuries?

It’s just funny. People complain he doesn’t get up the pitch, for the second goal instead of ‘hiding’ as you claim he seems to be further up the pitch offering a option in attack when things aren’t going well. Yet will complain ‘where is he’ in defence for the second goal
Dear oh dear. Really scraping the barrell while trying to make your point. Surprised you didn't go and knock on Farndons door with that one. Tell you what, we might as well get the history books out and talk about England winning the 1966 world cup as well. Jeez-some people!
 

PVA

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So he was that injured he needed to come off and use a sub? Why did he start?

What? Do you really need me to answer that? Do you think every player that comes off injured started the game with that injury?

Which mistake did OB make?

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The header (5th goal?) Weak header straight at him that he should have saved.
 

Gilbo

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I don’t like criticising players, especially goalkeepers. Furthermore, I have been very supportive of Burge on this site. Yesterday however, you can’t defend him. First goal, I am happy he has the confidence to go for the ball, but after making that decision, he has to get the ball. I also think on the second goal he went down far to quickly making it easy for the forward. Would I play him next game? Yes, he deserves ONE more chance.
 

torchomatic

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Burge is rubbish.
 

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