Who would you keep next season. (5 Viewers)

[Skyblueol]

Honestly which players do we keep and who do we let go.

 

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[Grendel]

Depends what division we are in

 

[Otis]

Honestly which players do we keep and who do we let go.

If we could, combined with likelihoods.

Based mine on League Two

Grimmer
Davies
McDonald
Hyam
Shipley
Doyle
Ponticelli
JCH
Biamou

Unlikely to still be here

Willis
McNulty
Haynes
Vincenti
Reid
Bayliss

Need to get rid

Haynes
Stokes
Burge/LOB
Vincenti
The DKE twins

 

[stevefloyd]

If we could, combined with likelihoods.

Based mine on League Two

Grimmer
Davies
McDonald
Hyam
Shipley
Doyle
Ponticelli
JCH
Biamou

Unlikely to still be here

Willis
McNulty
Haynes
Vincenti
Reid
Bayliss

Need to get rid

Haynes
Stokes
Burge/LOB
Vincenti
The DKE twins

And Beavon too unless he has already gone, get rid of that is

 

[Otis]

And Beavon too unless he has already gone, get rid of that is

Ah, forgot about him.

Can see him maybe retiring anyway.

 

[italiahorse]

Won't care if its D2

 

[Londonccfcfan]

Keep no matter what division.

McNulty
Biamou
JCH
JP

Jones
Andreu
Doyle
Kelly
Reid
Bayliss
Shipley

Grimmer
Willis
Rod
Davies
Stokes

Undecided

Doyle
Hyam

Sell/move on

Beavon
Vincenti
DKE twins
Haynes
Baker

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Really not sure what the solution is if we don’t go up. We’ve tried plenty of managers and players over the years. Older experienced managers, young managers with something to prove. Yet any combination hasn’t resulted in success

 

[ccfcway]

lose both left backs, both GK's, both DKE's, Beavon, Biamou, Reid & Vince

 

[ccfcway]

Really not sure what the solution is if we don’t go up. We’ve tried plenty of managers and players over the years. Older experienced managers, young managers with something to prove. Yet any combination hasn’t resulted in success

in play offs this season and that's without Jones and Andreu.

If we don't go up this year, we will be there or there abouts next year with robins

 

[Otis]

Twisting this a little, Which player(s) have you been most disappointed with this season.

For me, Vincenti and Kelly.

Was expecting big things from the pair and at the start of the season, Kelly especially was looking a class act. He just hasn't been the same player since his injury though. Too many anonymous efforts from him.

Vincenti has been a big disappointment. I have stuck up for him on a number of occasions and on occasion I think he has done pretty well, but he is so inconsistent and for every half decent game he puts in a poor performance.

The others have to be the DKE's. We knew they weren't without fault, but they seem have gone backwards this season to a degree where they are a bit of a liability.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

lose both left backs, both GK's, both DKE's, Beavon, Biamou, Reid & Vince

Booooo ! Biamou !?
Admittedly didn't have a good game today.

He will improve. And get better next year.

 

[Adge]

Out-Burge O'Brien Haynes DKE x2 Vincenti Beavon Biamou Reid.
Willis undecided-one of the ones with the losing mentality ingrained in him.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Out-Burge O'Brien Haynes DKE x2 Vincenti Beavon Biamou Reid.
Willis undecided-one of the ones with the losing mentality ingrained in him.

I suppose you also want Jodi Jones out of the club as he has played a part in relegation two times as a player already and he’s only 20. Dagenham 2015/16 (27 apps) and CCFC 2016/17 (35 apps)?

I’m sure clubs interested in Jones will make sure they check your expert analysis as usual before they bid

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Out
Addai
Burge
Haynes
Beavon
Both dke’s
Maycock
Kelly
Sayoud
Vincenti
This one will be controversial but Shipley if we can get any sort of fee as he will be pointless if we had jones and Reid plus a right sided player
I think McNulty will go and one of the centre backs


I would like a real goalkeeper who can command his area and kick it to one of our players
A player like Billy Kee to replace McNulty
I would re sign Reid and get a right winger so we have cover on the flanks (maybe Baker if he ever gets fit)

I would try to get nine out but only replace with three or four and get a bit more quality rather than the quantity we have now

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

I’m not sure of the logic behind offering Reid (a high earner and 30 year old who’s already forced a move out of the club) a new deal then selling Shipley for a small fee who’s in his first year of first team fotball and has done well

Shipley will play at least in the Championship. Very happy to be quoted on that in a few years time.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I’m not sure of the logic behind offering Reid (a high earner and 30 year old who’s already forced a move out of the club) a new deal then selling Shipley for a small fee who’s in his first year of first team fotball and has done well

Shipley will play at least in the Championship. Very happy to be quoted on that in a few years time.

We need a real wide player Shipley isn’t that and he is too weak to play in the centre, I would go the other way on Shipley I think he will be non league within three years

 

[Adge]

I suppose you also want Jodi Jones out of the club as he has played a part in relegation two times as a player already and he’s only 20. Dagenham 2015/16 (27 apps) and CCFC 2016/17 (35 apps)?

I’m sure clubs interested in Jones will make sure they check your expert analysis as usual before they bid

He did indeed, started the season well (albeit a level lower) so would be worth another go next season. Thanks for the endorsement though and just tell the agents etc to send me a personal message on here and I will put them right.
Interestingly, didn't you state that we needed a new keeper and left back?

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

He did indeed, started the season well (albeit a level lower) so would be worth another go next season. Thanks for the endorsement though and just tell the agents etc to send me a personal message on here and I will put them right.
Interestingly, didn't you state that we needed a new keeper and left back?

He has a losing mentality though? I thought we’d never go forward with players who have a losing mentality?

 

[Adge]

I’m not sure of the logic behind offering Reid (a high earner and 30 year old who’s already forced a move out of the club) a new deal then selling Shipley for a small fee who’s in his first year of first team fotball and has done well

Shipley will play at least in the Championship. Very happy to be quoted on that in a few years time.

That's a bold statement about Shipley-might come back to haunt you a bit like me and Maddison.

 

[Cavan O'Doherty]

I’m not sure of the logic behind offering Reid (a high earner and 30 year old who’s already forced a move out of the club) a new deal then selling Shipley for a small fee who’s in his first year of first team fotball and has done well

Shipley will play at least in the Championship. Very happy to be quoted on that in a few years time.

Oh come on. You must be joking!

 

[Adge]

He has a losing mentality though? I thought we’d never go forward with players who have a losing mentality?

Yep, which is why Burge, Haynes et Al have to be disposed of.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

That's a bold statement about Shipley-might come back to haunt you a bit like me and Maddison.

Yes because I can recognise talent.

Said McNulty would score at least 15 this season when he had scored 1 in 15 I believe when you said he can’t cut it at L2 level

Said Maddison would leave Norwich for a very big fee within 2 years at the start of the season when you were saying he wasn’t good enough for Championship

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Oh come on. You must be joking!

Nope, don’t make many predictions unless I’m confident.

Made 4 at the start of the season.

- McNulty to score 15 goals
- Maddison to leave Norwich in next 2 years for very big fee
- CCFC to reach 70 points
- CCFC to play at Wembley again in next 2 years

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Yes because I can recognise talent.

Said McNulty would score at least 15 this season when he had scored 1 in 15 I believe when you said he can’t cut it at L2 level

Said Maddison would leave Norwich for a very big fee within 2 years at the start of the season when you were saying he wasn’t good enough for Championship

What do you see as Shipley’s strong points that would get him higher?

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

Nope, don’t make many predictions unless I’m confident.

Made 4 at the start of the season.

- McNulty to score 15 goals
- Maddison to leave Norwich in next 2 years for very big fee
- CCFC to reach 70 points
- CCFC to play at Wembley again in next 2 years

Number four looks a bit iffy to me

 

[Cavan O'Doherty]

Nope, don’t make many predictions unless I’m confident.

Made 4 at the start of the season.

- McNulty to score 15 goals
- Maddison to leave Norwich in next 2 years for very big fee
- CCFC to reach 70 points
- CCFC to play at Wembley again in next 2 years

Well I’m sure you’ll be wrong with this one. Quote me on it.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Well I’m sure you’ll be wrong with this one. Quote me on it.

Yes, just like your post asking why Robins is relying on a 18 year old where he put you wrong after 3 minutes on his debut.

 

[Adge]

Yes because I can recognise talent.

Said McNulty would score at least 15 this season when he had scored 1 in 15 I believe when you said he can’t cut it at L2 level

Said Maddison would leave Norwich for a very big fee within 2 years at the start of the season when you were saying he wasn’t good enough for Championship

Did I? You"ll have to dig that one out for me about McNulty. You know how you like to dig up graves and revert to the history books when it suits, even when people have moved on. We can discuss the Battle of Hastings in 1066 if you like?

 

[johnwillomagic]

Just watching how Ameobi bullied our defence today could we get Clive Platt out of retirement for league 2?:shamefullyembarrased:

 

[Esoterica]

If Shipley goes on to Championship level it'll be at left back in my opinion. Not a natural winger - doesn't have the beating of a man and not creative or steely enough to play centrally. Think he does have a lot of good all round qualities though and would make a very solid left back with the engine to get forward too.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Did I? You"ll have to dig that one out for me about McNulty. You know how you like to dig up graves and revert to the history books when it suits, even when people have moved on. We can discuss the Battle of Hastings in 1066 if you like?

Hey, you are entitled to your opinion and are correct that some players are not good enough. Burge, Haynes, Willis, Stevenson, McNulty, Biamou, Beavon et al

 

[Cavan O'Doherty]

Yes, just like your post asking why Robins is relying on a 18 year old where he put you wrong after 3 minutes on his debut.

The principle was right though. We should not be relying on 18 year olds to try and change it for us. Luckily Bayliss had the ability to cope with being thrown into the deep end, but many sink rather than swim.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

The principle was right though. We should not be relying on 18 year olds to try and change it for us. Luckily Bayliss had the ability to cope with being thrown into the deep end, but many sink rather than swim.

Why does it matter how old someone is if they’re good enough as you’ve said?

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

If Shipley goes on to Championship level it'll be at left back in my opinion. Not a natural winger - doesn't have the beating of a man and not creative or steely enough to play centrally. Think he does have a lot of good all round qualities though and would make a very solid left back with the engine to get forward too.

I don’t think he has the pace required for a modern full back