Sick Boy
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I know a Turk who happens to be gay and he told me that they actually do 'inspections' on those doing compulsory military service to work out what way they swing.
The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (71 Viewers)
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I know a Turk who happens to be gay and he told me that they actually do 'inspections' on those doing compulsory military service to work out what way they swing.
Piece of shit giving interview and dodging Russia questions:
Nigel Farage: "They Will Always Hate Me"
Note: 2 of his children have EU passports through dual citizenship. And his press speaker is a former Daily Express editor.
Just out of casual interest.
Nigel Farage: "They Will Always Hate Me"
Note: 2 of his children have EU passports through dual citizenship. And his press speaker is a former Daily Express editor.
Just out of casual interest.
Grendel
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Farage has no relevance in the uk Mart.
Constantly on the news though. Latest comment is that the HoLords is a disgrace because they asked for more scrutiny and consideration for staying in the CU to avoid problems with the Irish border etc..
Grendel
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He’s hardly ever on the news.
Sick Boy
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He is on a fair bit, albeit not as much as last year.
SkyblueBazza
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In other words we have delegated our sovereignty to the EU?! Which is NOT what people in 1973 & '75 would have been voting to do! Regaining sovereignty is what people have now voted for.
I think you have failed to grasp the concept of sovereignty! (Understandable from your EU bubble). Sovereignty does not in any way mean we what we say goes, nor has it ever meant that. Other nations in the old Empire chose to do as we said out of fear. That was & is wrong & will never be the case again. Only bullies will miss that. Like those heading up the EU!
And this suggests you do not understand the concept of either negotiation & agreement either! We too will be able to set "conditions" (are you a bully too mart?)
I have lost count of how many times I have openly admitted that I voted to remain...BUT I can see new opportunities for a bright future as a result of Brexit. You have blinkers on & cannot see them is how I perceive it.
That is probably the most openly discriminatory comment & yet startling admission I think you have made yet!
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SkyblueBazza
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But the actual evidence shows we couldn't influence or shape it to be better in how we see it working best for all. There were too many stark differences as to how thing can work best for the greater good.
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SkyblueBazza
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Trade and immigration can actually be discussed as two totally separate items.
Or are you now suggesting we don't already have immigration or trade with India? Future trade agreement will not likely be dependent upon us (nor India) accepting open immigration, or specific numbers. Just like people go to live & work in the US from the UK & vice-versa. It is controlled under agreed processes.
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SkyblueBazza
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No...and just because someone voted remain doesn't mean they are not racist
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SkyblueBazza
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clint van damme
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those people must be livid at the recent attempts to erode sovereignty by the tories.
SkyblueBazza
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They are or would be livid at all past governments over the last 30-40 years since they have all aided the process
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Grendel
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That’s an extract of an interview with a paper - not s news item
Grendel
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So that means Nicky Campbell is on the news a lot?
So you think that racists voted for open door immigration from Eastern Europe? Fair enough. I don’t.
Splitting hairs.
No.
Grendel
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No it’s not “on the news all the time” he’s s peripheral figure now
SkyblueBazza
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Immigration is only one piece of a very complex jigsaw.
For example a racist that went to live & work in Germany would probably selfishly vote to remain so they could continue their current life. They didn't suddenly stop being racist
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Not according to India. They said there will be no Empire 2.0 and that Indian immigration will be in the discussions.
Any deal will be agreed with the stronger partner saying what will be discussed or not.
Really?
And your opinion is backed up by logic? Explain.
The greater good being for 28 not 1.
Grendel
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For Greece?
I knowingly voted to stay in the common market in 1975 in the assumption of further integration.
I am well aware of sovereignty and know that when you are in organisations such as NATO and the UN, you do not have sovereignty - in the extreme way you see it.
Of course we can set our conditions in negotiations, but that does not mean that the other side accepts all of them.
I see no unicorns or a brighter future alone.
I criticised a portion of leavers who are racist, and because of that I am a racist in your eyes? Don’t know what you are on, but I would stick to beer if I were you.
Obviously.
Grendel
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Lol shows want an arrogant bigot you are
No. It shows how out of touch you are. What ever happened to Grexit?
Grendel
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Out of touch? They can’t leave as the Nazi Merkel has them by the balls and couldn’t give a fuck as long as germany prospers.
You tried to say in the 70’s referendum voters were aware of political union. One that’s shite and two - what percentage of voting in the European council did we have then compared to now?
Right Grendel. Ok. You have now shown what an uneducated bigot you are.
You have no idea WTF you are on about.
1. I knew full well what I voted for . A place in Europe. I am happy that the EU has extended.
2. you are so fxxking thick that you equate Merkel with Nazis. Apart from anything else, do really think Hitler would have helped fleeing refugees?
Go back to your dumbfxxk mates.
BTW Robert Bosch have a possible solution to the Diesel problem. At least for future engines. Hopefully your generation will be gone from JLR by then. Who needs idiots equating intelligent Germans with Nazis?
You have no idea WTF you are on about.
1. I knew full well what I voted for . A place in Europe. I am happy that the EU has extended.
2. you are so fxxking thick that you equate Merkel with Nazis. Apart from anything else, do really think Hitler would have helped fleeing refugees?
Go back to your dumbfxxk mates.
BTW Robert Bosch have a possible solution to the Diesel problem. At least for future engines. Hopefully your generation will be gone from JLR by then. Who needs idiots equating intelligent Germans with Nazis?
Grendel
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Yes I know exactly what I’m talking about about.
The EU benefits germany above all else. The Eu has all but destroyed Greece, it’s people and it’s economy and the Eurocrats sit back and do nothing - it’s a scandal
You didn’t vote for political union because the YES vote at the time stressed that people like Tony Benn who said powers would be reduced and sovereignty lost were scaremongering. They pointed to a veto and said we would have power to vote against anything that did not benefit the uk. This power doesn’t now exist. Also they pointed to the fact we had nearly 20% of the voting powers in the council - we now have less than half.
It’s shown that papers and minutes revealing the true extent of political union from Brussels was suppressed and not revealed to the public.
This isn’t about the good of the 28 - it’s the good of the greedy facist few at the expense of everyone else.
You and your brother are two peas in a pod it seems.